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[E3 2011] SONY - Post-keynote wrap-up and discussion here!
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Sony's E3 Keynote 2011
Nicely done, Jeremy!
Nicely done, Jeremy!
Sony has probably had the most troublesome console gen in the history of video games. They're riding into E3 hot on the tail of the PSN being brought down after a massive hack, and a series of hacks smaller in scale have been plaguing the company ever since. To make things more awkward, Sony is slated to have a five hour showing at E3! Any publicity is good publicity I guess. So what does Sony bring this year?
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Bullet Points of Convenience:
- Off to the worst start, a delay; crowd control blamed by Sony, but come on; the Gametrailers coverage is, at least, hilarious, with various cutting-off of people
- Crowd was asked to put on 3D glasses before the event started
- Opens with an obscure video with a Move controller; various game clips showing; lots of movie-based game clips; Wow, the GT coverage managed to cut into the opening montage for Sony's keynote, but then again nothing is really going on that's important yet
- Jack Tretton takes the stage to open; 6,000 people present; brings up the PSN outage!
- Oh god, he made fun of it saying "Your welcome" to news outlets, ouch; "Without you there is no Playstation"; says he hopes the next 90 minutes convince non-Sony fans or those who talked away to reconsider; back to pitching Sony in a regular manner
- Announces CinemaNOW partnership for PSN
- Uncharted 3 - live demo shown, on a ship out at sea; water coming onto the ship looks real good; very tense showing!; multiplayer beta June 28th; cinematic trailer shown after, just as tense; 11-1-11
- Resistance 3 - dude from Insomniac plays with a pink controller, tee-hee; "cheap-seats" joke, and nobody is impressed; "Put on your glasses"; live demo, shootin' stuff; player picks up a power core and has to make a run for it while NPCs assist by doing the fighting; ends abruptly; "Sharp-Shooter Bundle," has a Move controller, nunchuk, gun, and the game, all for $150
- God of War Origins Collection - remastered HD titles
- Ice and Shadow of the Collossus - remasterd HD collection
- Playstation brand 3D display - allows for 2 players to see two different full-screens at once; no price
- Playstation brand 3D glasses - works for many sets
- Full bundle is $499 for the glasses, TV, HDMI cable, and a game
- 2k Sports takes the stage when Move is discussed
- NBA 2k12 - NBA On The Move - Controlled by the move controller; point to a player, do action; Kobe Bryant brought on stage to demonstrate; "That's rude!"; someone on stage is breathing REALLY heavily; BRO-HUG
- Medieval Move - Move focused game, also in 3D; basically the traditional sword-wand game; puzzles based on wand movement; one-to-one control; the guy playing doesn't seem to be following the script tightly, hahaha; live demo stops when player is having difficulty on balance portion
- Infamous 2 - "What is this Infamous clone?" says someone on IRC; out like tomorrow or now or whatever; Move can be used to create content for Infamous 2
- Little Big Planet 2 - Update coming in September to allow for Move-control based level creation / play
- Starhawk - From the makers of Warhawk!; early 2012; cinematic trailer shows battle on land between people, then vehicles enter the scene, then ships, then zooms out to space with ships, woo
- Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time - Nice trailer but no gameplay; coming 2012
- Guy who made EVE takes the stage; makes a joke about Iceland being famous for interrupting your trans-Atlantic flights, ho ho
- Dust 513 - FPS console game that is directly tied into the PC game EVE; Looks like Halo, or Planetside, take your pick; ISK is the only connection to EVE so far, used to buy things in the game; no clear connection explained; 2012; closed beta at the end of this year, PS3 exclusive
- Bioshock Infinite - "This trailer was entirely made from gameplay footage"; Ken Levine takes the stage, brings up his "skeptic comments" about motion control; have I mentioned this dude reminds me of Charlie from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia?; he's talking about Sony sending them a Move to try out, to get casuals into hardcore games (nice agenda); Bioshock comes on the same disc as Infinite
- Bioshock NGP / PSV - Ken Levine dropped a bomb that a Bioshock is in development for the handheld
- Saints Row 3 - brief mention?
- Star Trek - Move-compatible game, use the phasers woo; Tretton notes a couple of "Trekkers" in the audience awkwardly; pre-Alpha footage shown, claims to be gameplay, but it's an edited video anyway; very action-packed
- SSX - Mount Fuji is an exclusive level on the PS3
- Need for Speed: The Run - Seven additional super-cars exclusive to the PS3
- Battlefield 3 - Battlefield 1943 bundled on the same disc
- All the above was emphasized as being thanks to the Blu-Ray storage capacity
- KAZ HIRAI TAKES THE STAGE - Makes a note of Jack wearing a tie? Was that a joke?
- Playstation Suite - Playstation certified Androids / tablets have access; but what is it?
- Playstation Portable - "We continue to have very high expectations in the years to come."
- Playstation Vita - Pronounced "veeta"; "What does Vita mean? Vita means life."; front and rear cameras "never before seen" which is a lie but whatever; partnered with AT&T exclusive carrier for Vita, gets some boos; no information on pricing; Near announced, "Nair" pronunciation; provides social-connection tools; again, no specifics yet, coming in the "near future"
- Uncharted: Golden Abyss - touch screen melee combat; "traversal," is that a word?; six-axis controls implemeneted at jumping points; you can highlight a path to take by drawing your finger on the screen; apparently utilizes rear-touch controls, but wasn't shown due to time
- Ruin - Action-RPG; main presenter is breathing too heavily; Diablo-esque gameplay, utilizes combos; you can help, hinder, or harm people in multiplayer; "rivals" are multiplayer peoples; rivals build lairs; you must defend your lair; there will be a Playstation 3 version, your saves are compatible over the cloud service
- ModNation Racers - not a port, new title for Vita; nervous laughter / breathing from presenter; draw tracks on the screen; Vita controls all over the Vita itself function to make tracks / scenery; have access to content made on the PS3 version
- Cross-platform function and play between the Vita and PS3
- Little Big Planet - touch, tilt, rear-touch gameplay; multiplayer on the same unit, switching turns OR simultaneous!
- Street Fighter X Tekken - well, a translator was necessary; Cole from Infamous will be on the Vita title; showcases the game with Cole being played; uh, live-demo ends abruptly; PS3 version is available for people to try at E3 too
- "I can't believe Kaz made fun of my tie. I was tempted to bust out that Ridge Racer line but..." oh ho ho, Jack!
The End-Keynote Megaton:
Vita launches this holiday season; two models; WiFi only, and 3G; WiFi model costs $249, 3G $299
The Bottom-Line:
Sony is persuing the 3D stuff hard. And Jeremy is quite talented.
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(How much do you guys think those PSVs actually cost to manufacture? That must be an insane hit they're willing to take here.)
Eh, I think it's too early to claim anything. They did have the best conference so far though (but honestly, that's only compared to Microsoft and all theirs had was more Kinect peddling as expected). We'll see after tomorrow.
Anyways, as I said in the other thread, at that price I'll consider getting a Vita, but it will probably depend on if it supports all the PSP titles I've been wanting to try.
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Wow, good job Sony
Nintendo is absolutely gonna have to drop the price on the 3DS
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Uncharted 3 looks good. 24" 3DTV with that cool splitscreen thing looks good. Big meh to the rest for me. The conference was by far the funniest conference though, whether intentional or unintentional.
If the rumors are to be believed, Sony set the price point, designed the tech around it... and then cut the tech in half to support the price.
Infamous 2/Uncharted 3 look cool
Sly Cooper/Street Fighter X Tekken
Although I wont buy it, the TV/glasses deal is a good idea.
Way better then 360, pretty good standing alone without comparison to anything else. Sony seems to be vying for my money more then 360 this year.
Nah.
Vita's games could be $50-$60. And they've already said the system has no internal storage and uses a new format of memory stick, which they can price at whatever they want. The ball is in their court as to whether the system is truly competitive, price-wise.
Also Nintendo doesn't have to drop the price, they could just bundle Mario Kart again.
Yeah, this was easily the best presented, least silly conference of E3
They dropped some facts, dropped a few bombs about pricing, showed hell of cool games and announced a few exclusives, and even got Ken fucking Levine interested
This is easily the best Sony conference I've ever seen, and the best conference at the show by a wide margin
At least so far!
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Game pricing is something to consider, but no one looks at prices for memory sticks before buying a console
It's easily competitive, price-wise
Whether or not it's a better value is what's up for debate, but the simple fact that it's even up for debate means that shit just got real in the portable market
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This is my position.
The biggest two things they revealed was Uncharted 3 and the Vita price both of which were impressive. I still want to know battery life for it and what is going to be on there because more powerful PSP isnt' doing it for me right now.
At least it was entertaining for the majority of it's length though, so I'll take that.
Also Jeremy was great and fueled oh so many jokes after.
"oh hey you know those God of War games for the PSP? yeah we know those play like ass on that system, so here, have some PS3 versions"
Combine that with Konami going "peace walker on PS3 and 360!" and the PSP has just about had it
Now if they can just do something to combat piracy on the Vita, they'll actually have something
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For software? I wait with tepid, but hopefully, reactions. There's still a chance we could see some high-priced software.
The biggest burden to bare is on Sony. I'm sure they are selling these at a loss. Maybe not blood-drainingly harsh, but I'm guess enough to remain competitive. Also, I still want my release date!
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It's important because memory is absolutely required to take advantage of just about anything on the system. This isn't like "lol I need to buy four GBAs to play Crystal Chronicles," this is basic functionality that they can price at whatever premium they want.
Shit definitely got real, I'm just trying to be realistic. This was even a problem with the original PSP.
And I'm not being pessimistic for no reason or being a stupid fanboy, the system looks awesome, games look awesome, I want one. It's great stuff. I just think there could be more to this.
Alright, I can appreciate that
There is definitely more that we need to know before this thing actually launches
More I need to know, specifically, before I make a purchasing decision, since I was all the way gonna get a 3DS soon, and now I'm really not sure about that
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EDIT: Nevermind, flash cards. Got it.
Could be cool and the way to the future.
Could totally backfire on them by making it not a compelling enough purchase.
We'll see.
Where have they said that? Source?
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/27/ngp-features-two-proprietary-card-slots-for-memory-storage-game/
Yeah but the system could also have been, and everyone was joking (or not) that it would be $600. I wouldn't be surprised if the games were priced equally with 3DS, too.
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http://www.gamingunion.net/news/no-internal-storage-for-ngp--4347.html
It is important to note that the games themselves will have their own save area, so that's good. But most people will want non-game storage as well.
EDIT: Perhaps a better link.
edit: But fuck them for making yet another proprietary media card, I already have way too many of them!
http://www.qj.net/ngp/news/gdc-2011-ngp-power-cant-equal-ps3s-demo-videos-details.html
So perhaps that's not actually an issue here.
Isn't that quote more about RAM and stuff? At least it seems that way with the comparison to the PS3's video memory.
As per the quote, would anyone believe the Vita has 60 gig or more internal?
And I thought there were rumors of some God of War adventure game (God of War 4 notwithstanding).
Of course no Last Guardian, but I'm pretty sure that'll hit TGS and closer to around when the HD Ico/SotC hit.
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"Did ya hear the one about the mussel that wanted to purchase Valve? Seems like the bivalve had a juicy offer on the table but the company flat-out refused and decided to immediately clam up!"
Depends what you consider 'basic functionality'. If you just want to play retail games? You'll be fine. Saves, patches and DLC will save on the card. If you want a bunch of photos, music, videos or PSN games? Then yeah, you'll want extra storage. Hopefully it won't be too bad but no matter what happens, I imagine I'd run out of space. 3TB on my PC and 320GB on my PS3 has spoilt me a bit.
Well they are porting the best and worst God of War's to the PS3, so there's that (CoO being the best, GoS being the worst). Only problem is, combined they're still not as long as GoW2 (though I kinda felt like GoW2 dragged on a bit, whereas CoO is short but really sweet).
It's definitely their best one since before the PS3 price dropped, hands-fucking-down.
I was expecting them to abandon the Move, and they doubled-down on it. Now, I'm still unsure about the games available for it or how they're integrating it into others, but it's better than what they've had thus far.
But yeah it's like you said, they didn't fuck around with silly shit. I thought that Tretton's opening statements were really a bummer, but he was setting the tone of, "Y'know what, we're just gonna show you what we've got going, no bullshit, take it or leave it, but we do hope you enjoy." Sure, a goof up here and there, but it was easy to overlook because of all the positive shit that came out of the keynote.
You know what, Nintendo does it all the damn time. I'm just glad Sony is doing it for the actual games so there will be great performance. No loading or slow downs because of a small disc format. Sony very easily could have rolled out UMD2.
I'm actually more concerned that Skype wasn't mentioned on it. Sorry but I would like Skype on both the PS3 and Vita.
Also the OP needs to update that the glass will be $60 a pop.
I'm probably going to buy that TV bundle. If that TV is 240hz it might be able to do split screen 3D. It's also could be very useful for LAN parties and tournaments now as well. On top of that if people can buy the bundle & then buy more of those cheaper glasses then they'll probably buy the larger Sony TVs to use the glasses with. Sony is probably going to make some cash off that thing just as a standard, I just hope it uses LED.
Considering what just happened a couple weeks ago, I doubt that'll ever happen. Google chat though? Maybe.
They've confirmed that the Vita has cross game chat though, so that's good news.