I honestly think that a) people's negative reactions to the sex scenes are exaggerated - some of them are somewhat gratuitous, but by far not as much as some seem to think - and b) I'm pretty sure most of the negative reactions come from American audiences - I doubt you get reactions as numerous or as negative by European audiences. Culturally, Europe tends not to get as worked up about sex.
Apart from that, though, I just finished "Fire and Blood" and can hardly wait for the story to continue. I still stand by what I said earlier on (that Game of Thrones lacks the relevance of a number of other HBO series), but in terms of story and storytelling this is a great series. It's been a while since I felt this strongly that I want to know what happens next.
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People who have stopped watching this show because of sex are fools. I bet they didn't bat an eye at the blood and violence in this show.
Yeah, I've found that to be true among my friends. One particular friend couldn't stand the sex scenes AT ALL. He hasn't said anything about the violence. He makes a lot of rape and sodomy jokes, but has a strange aversion to naked women.
He pretty much refuses to watch the series now, stopping at episode 3. I find his sentiment ridiculous and kind of insulting.
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13 Emmy nominations total, but only 2 "big" ones (dinklage and best drama). I almost feel bad wanting Friday Night Lights to win over Game of Thrones, but I think it deserves it and this is it's last shot.
Given the Emmy's complete lack of respect/interest in Sci-Fi/Fantasy over the years, the fact that it got nominated for anything is a minor miracle. I doubt it will win Best Drama, but I think Dinklage has a pretty good chance at least (might pick up some technical stuff too, like "Main Title Design").
I'd love to see FNL win something, but I kinda doubt it.
I'd say Britton's got the best shot (Mad Men/Hamm are taking series/actor, and if Hamm doesn't it's Buscemi). Unfortunately this was probably her weakest of the four outstanding FNL seasons. Tami didn't have as much to do. Might be Chandler's strongest, but alas.
Dinklage has a fair shot, I think.
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Dinklage has a fair shot. They'll probably win casting, costumes, prosthetic makeup (not sure about regular), hairstyling, title design, special visual effects (look, some others had good ones, but nothing came close to those dragons).
Probably not stunt coordination or best drama. Outside shot at directing, audio, and writing.
I'm going so far as to say Dinklage has it sewn up.
So far as Friday Night Lights goes? No way. Token nomination because it's the final season. The nom is the best it's going to get. Emmy's probably going to Mad Men, if not Boardwalk Empire.
Dinklage is probably the safest frontrunner for Best Supporting Actor. Slattery is great in Mad Men but Sterling isn't around as much as he used to be and I think his presence isn't felt enough in the show anymore to justify an Emmy.
The Emmys do LOVE the Good Wife though, so I wouldn't be surprised.
GoT won't win Drama. It has a better chance since Breaking Bad was out of this cycle, but there's no way it will win with Mad Men still being red hot and Friday Night Lights looking for its obligatory "we snubbed you all these years so now we'll give you recognition" Emmy. You can never say never, but GoT winning for best Drama is the closest I'll get to making that assertion.
It will probably clean up in the effects/costuming/visuals department, and MAYBE it will take a directing bid, but it won't take writing. The writing in GoT isn' particularly strong, nor does it really inspire much further analysis. It isn't really a quiet or subtle enough show to garner a lot of writing attention.
People who have stopped watching this show because of sex are fools. I bet they didn't bat an eye at the blood and violence in this show.
Yeah, I've found that to be true among my friends. One particular friend couldn't stand the sex scenes AT ALL. He hasn't said anything about the violence. He makes a lot of rape and sodomy jokes, but has a strange aversion to naked women.
He pretty much refuses to watch the series now, stopping at episode 3. I find his sentiment ridiculous and kind of insulting.
Yeah it just sounds utterly bizarre to me that people would be so disgusted with a random sex scene in a production like GoT that they'd actually stop watching the show.
Given the Emmy's complete lack of respect/interest in Sci-Fi/Fantasy over the years, the fact that it got nominated for anything is a minor miracle. I doubt it will win Best Drama, but I think Dinklage has a pretty good chance at least (might pick up some technical stuff too, like "Main Title Design").
I'd love to see FNL win something, but I kinda doubt it.
Game of Thrones definitely has the best title design OF ALL TIME [/kanye]
I really wish people would stop acting like all Americans are prudes because some Americans (and I suspect people in other countries as well) think that gratuitous sex distracts from the story.
What qualifies as "gratuitous sex" is a subjective term that's different for nearly everyone (and different countries/cultures), which is why this same discussion has been on an endless loop since the show first started. There's not going to be some sort of consensus - it's just going to keep going with everyone restating their personal feelings about them and not really changing what they believe.
Just in the last couple pages, we've had everything from "every sex/nude scene on the show is fine" to "the sexposition scenes are gratuitous, but the others are not" to "they should remove/alter sex scenes even if they're directly from the book and plot-relevant, because even showing that takes away from the show". And that's been what it's like during the show's entire run.
Check him out in a scifi show called Threshold. He's pretty much playing Tyrion's modern-day descendant. I'm pretty convinced that's what won him Tyrion's role. Too bad it only got a dozen episodes before it got Foxed.
I really wish people would stop acting like all Americans are prudes because some Americans (and I suspect people in other countries as well) think that gratuitous sex distracts from the story.
You can more easily make water flow uphill or the D'reg not charge than get nationalists to stop practicing childish provincialism.
Check him out in a scifi show called Threshold. He's pretty much playing Tyrion's modern-day descendant. I'm pretty convinced that's what won him Tyrion's role. Too bad it only got a dozen episodes before it got Foxed.
Oh, and being a dwarf helped, I suppose.
That was a fun show. Smart, scifi, had a definite direction and good writing.
The actors decide where to submit themselves. Bean and Headey submitted as lead, I think, despite there not being a lead on the show. Bean was the closest, but no.
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The actors decide where to submit themselves. Bean and Headey submitted as lead, I think, despite there not being a lead on the show. Bean was the closest, but no.
Oh I'm aware. I'm saying as far as winning an Emmy for a lead actor in a show, Bean had the best shot of being recognized as the nominee for lead actor. If Dinklage had been put up for Best Lead there was probably zero chance that he would've been nominated. It was a smart move.
Right, best actor is absolutely loaded right now, and that's without Cranston even being eligible. Which he will be next year though obviously Chandler will not and depending when it airs its next season Hamm might not be (but probably will).
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Wow, only after rewatching Ep. 10 today and looking up the cast on imdb I finally relized that Shae is played by Sibel Kekilli!
She is a pretty high profile German actress who had her breakthrough with the excellent drama "Gegen die Wand" which won a ton of festival prizes and you can probably also get on your netflix or intertubes.
Check it out, one of the best German movies in the last 10 years or so.
Also I know someone here mentioned she was in a porn movie. Let me correct that: She did a LOT of hardcore movies prior to her "serious" acting career.
Started rewatching the series to get my girlfriend to watch it. I'll be good till the last episode and I think my friend saved them all as they aired so he should have 10.
After one episode thes made 3 comments about nudity and lewd remarks about that being why I liked the show. She's also asked many who is that questions which where then immediately answered while she was talking. She also loves the dire wolf pups... So we'll see if she gets into it
People who have stopped watching this show because of sex are fools. I bet they didn't bat an eye at the blood and violence in this show.
Yeah, I've found that to be true among my friends. One particular friend couldn't stand the sex scenes AT ALL. He hasn't said anything about the violence. He makes a lot of rape and sodomy jokes, but has a strange aversion to naked women.
He pretty much refuses to watch the series now, stopping at episode 3. I find his sentiment ridiculous and kind of insulting.
I'm fairly sure you can say the names of upcoming characters. People who haven't read the books will have no idea who that is, other than "a main character." But yeah, casting looks pretty good. I didn't know Margaery and Brienne had been cast either, they're looking good as well.
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Apart from that, though, I just finished "Fire and Blood" and can hardly wait for the story to continue. I still stand by what I said earlier on (that Game of Thrones lacks the relevance of a number of other HBO series), but in terms of story and storytelling this is a great series. It's been a while since I felt this strongly that I want to know what happens next.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
People who have stopped watching this show because of sex are fools. I bet they didn't bat an eye at the blood and violence in this show.
Yeah, I've found that to be true among my friends. One particular friend couldn't stand the sex scenes AT ALL. He hasn't said anything about the violence. He makes a lot of rape and sodomy jokes, but has a strange aversion to naked women.
He pretty much refuses to watch the series now, stopping at episode 3. I find his sentiment ridiculous and kind of insulting.
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He'd better fucking win.
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I'd love to see FNL win something, but I kinda doubt it.
Dinklage has a fair shot, I think.
Probably not stunt coordination or best drama. Outside shot at directing, audio, and writing.
So far as Friday Night Lights goes? No way. Token nomination because it's the final season. The nom is the best it's going to get. Emmy's probably going to Mad Men, if not Boardwalk Empire.
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The Emmys do LOVE the Good Wife though, so I wouldn't be surprised.
GoT won't win Drama. It has a better chance since Breaking Bad was out of this cycle, but there's no way it will win with Mad Men still being red hot and Friday Night Lights looking for its obligatory "we snubbed you all these years so now we'll give you recognition" Emmy. You can never say never, but GoT winning for best Drama is the closest I'll get to making that assertion.
It will probably clean up in the effects/costuming/visuals department, and MAYBE it will take a directing bid, but it won't take writing. The writing in GoT isn' particularly strong, nor does it really inspire much further analysis. It isn't really a quiet or subtle enough show to garner a lot of writing attention.
Slightly related:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/3/23/
What IS it with you Americans and violence and sex? Why is images of consensual sex more disturbing than images of torture?
Game of Thrones definitely has the best title design OF ALL TIME [/kanye]
Just in the last couple pages, we've had everything from "every sex/nude scene on the show is fine" to "the sexposition scenes are gratuitous, but the others are not" to "they should remove/alter sex scenes even if they're directly from the book and plot-relevant, because even showing that takes away from the show". And that's been what it's like during the show's entire run.
I hope saying the sex writing is terribad does not qualify as book discussion.
Supporting? As far as I'm concerned he's the lead.
Check him out in a scifi show called Threshold. He's pretty much playing Tyrion's modern-day descendant. I'm pretty convinced that's what won him Tyrion's role. Too bad it only got a dozen episodes before it got Foxed.
Oh, and being a dwarf helped, I suppose.
You can more easily make water flow uphill or the D'reg not charge than get nationalists to stop practicing childish provincialism.
That was a fun show. Smart, scifi, had a definite direction and good writing.
Really it's no wonder it got canceled...
Well...
Supporting is the correct category to put him in. Bean is the lead character in that show as far as The Emmys are concerned.
Oh I'm aware. I'm saying as far as winning an Emmy for a lead actor in a show, Bean had the best shot of being recognized as the nominee for lead actor. If Dinklage had been put up for Best Lead there was probably zero chance that he would've been nominated. It was a smart move.
I'm so sorry.
Edit: Spoilered because herp derp.
She is a pretty high profile German actress who had her breakthrough with the excellent drama "Gegen die Wand" which won a ton of festival prizes and you can probably also get on your netflix or intertubes.
Check it out, one of the best German movies in the last 10 years or so.
Also I know someone here mentioned she was in a porn movie. Let me correct that: She did a LOT of hardcore movies prior to her "serious" acting career.
Should probably be put in spoilers since it contains some spoilers.
Probably not until next spring.
That's amazing.
After one episode thes made 3 comments about nudity and lewd remarks about that being why I liked the show. She's also asked many who is that questions which where then immediately answered while she was talking. She also loves the dire wolf pups... So we'll see if she gets into it
Stannis casting, as well as another related fairly major character we haven't met or even heard of yet on the show..
EDIT: Oh. Meh.