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Cause and Effect of Piracy

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    JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2011
    Not only am I a dread pirate, my only infraction is for talking about piracy

    I am looking forward to touring the university circuit as an expert on this important topic

    OBJECTION!

    You have a yellow card. It's not a true infraction.

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I am putting up a bounty

    for the head of the internet kraken

    TrippyJing on
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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Butters wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Does piracy hurt business as much as businesses say? No.

    Does anyone do it for any reasons that are not entirely selfish? No.

    Nothing about this is in any way new, either.

    I don't think producers and publishers would spend the money and resources they do on anti-piracy solutions if they didn't have good reason to believe it costs them considerable amounts of money.

    Also any individuals "reasons" are irrelevant. Piracy is stealing.

    While I can't argue that piracy isn't a problem, they do lose a decent chunk of honest customers to piracy what with the crap they pull in an attempt to stop it, and spend a pretty penny to do so.

    I can't blame them for it, but the cure is almost worse than the disease, with the case of some companies.

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    I am putting up a bounty

    for the head of the internet kraken

    hey now

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I am selling these fine leather jackets.

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    RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    pirates killed my father and raped my mother

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2011
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Does piracy hurt business as much as businesses say? No.

    Does anyone do it for any reasons that are not entirely selfish? No.

    Nothing about this is in any way new, either.

    I don't think producers and publishers would spend the money and resources they do on anti-piracy solutions if they didn't have good reason to believe it costs them considerable amounts of money.

    Also any individuals "reasons" are irrelevant. Piracy is stealing.

    While I can't argue that piracy isn't a problem, they do lose a decent chunk of honest customers to piracy what with the crap they pull in an attempt to stop it, and spend a pretty penny to do so.

    I can't blame them for it, but the cure is almost worse than the disease, with the case of some companies.

    Pirates are assholes. Remember when people pirated the humble indie bundle? the one that was for charity?

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    RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    if it's still there after you've taken it, then have you really stolen anything?

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Also there is a reason to use DRM other than to prevent piracy.

    They need to show to potential investors that they are doing something to combat piracy, and DRM is a something, regardless of how ineffective it may actually be.

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    HeadCreepsHeadCreeps NOW IS THE TIME FOR DRINKING! Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Does piracy hurt business as much as businesses say? No.

    Does anyone do it for any reasons that are not entirely selfish? No.

    Nothing about this is in any way new, either.

    I don't think producers and publishers would spend the money and resources they do on anti-piracy solutions if they didn't have good reason to believe it costs them considerable amounts of money.

    Also any individuals "reasons" are irrelevant. Piracy is stealing.

    While I can't argue that piracy isn't a problem, they do lose a decent chunk of honest customers to piracy what with the crap they pull in an attempt to stop it, and spend a pretty penny to do so.

    I can't blame them for it, but the cure is almost worse than the disease, with the case of some companies.

    Pirates are assholes. Remember when people pirated the humble indie bundle? the one that was for charity?

    But dude, like, they would have to set up a Paypal account and stuff and that's all just such a hassle

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    My friend wants to go to a cash for gold place dressed s a pirate with a chest full of costume jewelry.

    Tallahasseeriel on
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    DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I used to be really against piracy

    but then I read a book called Wealth of Networks. The book's not about piracy, but about how social production is a viable alternative to traditional models. It's a really awesome book

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    L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    i'm the white guy w/ dreads & a unicycle on your university campus

    fuck

    you

    L|ama on
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    HeadCreepsHeadCreeps NOW IS THE TIME FOR DRINKING! Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    L|ama wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    i'm the white guy w/ dreads & a unicycle on your university campus

    fuck

    you

    Is this like a common occurrence on campuses?

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    DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    HeadCreeps wrote: »
    L|ama wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    i'm the white guy w/ dreads & a unicycle on your university campus

    fuck

    you

    Is this like a common occurrence on campuses?

    universities are a unique ecosystem that can support forms of life so terrible that they could not possibly survive anywhere else

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    Dox the PIDox the PI Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    L|ama wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    i'm the white guy w/ dreads & a unicycle on your university campus

    fuck

    you

    Fantastic

    Dox the PI on
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    L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    im pretty sure the stoners that light up at 4:20 on the union lawn every single fucking day have being annoying down to a precise science

    holy shit they are insufferable

    L|ama on
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    sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Booger CoveRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    we had two unicycle guys, but neither one had dreadlocks

    :(

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    GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Do software pirates have nine Pirate Lords who each hold claim to a different part of the internet and only convene as a council for matters of grave import?

    Yes but the council has not convened recently due to the chaos caused by the internet kraken

    Known in some parts as Nidhoggr the Net Serpent.

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    hi i am a lazy arts student and i like to protest about anything and everything

    sign this petition that will never change anything thx

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    DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Everyone's thining it, I'm just saying it.

    Pirates

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    Dox the PIDox the PI Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    LuLz-Sec holds one of the pieces

    so does Anonymous

    Dox the PI on
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    SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    hey why do you use the winky-eyes key in actual sentences?

    that doesn't make ANY sense!

    ;(

    SoaL on
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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
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    Sir Red of the MantiSir Red of the Manti Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    What doesn't make sense to me is how the cost to reproduce a digital work perfectly approaches zero, yet I'm charged close to the same price for it as the same work that comes in pretty packaging. Also I wonder why DVDs were priced about the same as their equivalent VHSs when the media was transitioning despite the dramatically reduced cost to produce a DVD.

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    SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    but dad... you steal satellite signals

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    TleilaxuTleilaxu Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    We talking about the best pirate in here?

    The Jester of Tortuga

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    What doesn't make sense to me is how the cost to reproduce a digital work perfectly approaches zero, yet I'm charged close to the same price for it as the same work that comes in pretty packaging. Also I wonder why DVDs were priced about the same as their equivalent VHSs when the media was transitioning despite the dramatically reduced cost to produce a DVD.

    If you undercut retailers by offering a digital version at a reduced price, they often refuse to sell your product in protest and you miss out on a whole bunch of sales.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2011
    What doesn't make sense to me is how the cost to reproduce a digital work perfectly approaches zero, yet I'm charged close to the same price for it as the same work that comes in pretty packaging. Also I wonder why DVDs were priced about the same as their equivalent VHSs when the media was transitioning despite the dramatically reduced cost to produce a DVD.

    because they want to take your money, and you will give it to them if you want to possess the product in question.

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Dox the PI wrote: »
    LuLz-Sec holds one of the pieces

    so does Anonymous

    tell me

    who are the other seven

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    Dox the PIDox the PI Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Dox the PI wrote: »
    LuLz-Sec holds one of the pieces

    so does Anonymous

    tell me

    who are the other seven

    I only know of 2 more
    Shawn Fanning and Peter Sunde

    Dox the PI on
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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I installed Fallout 3 again and now there's GFWL all over my C:\ drive

    it's like cleaning up after a party in college all over again

    MrMonroe on
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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Steam is good. I like steam. I think the system they have set up is great at combating piracy, and the fact that they are able to experiment with a wide range of pricing options for everything to find what really works is great.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2011
    What doesn't make sense to me is how the cost to reproduce a digital work perfectly approaches zero, yet I'm charged close to the same price for it as the same work that comes in pretty packaging. Also I wonder why DVDs were priced about the same as their equivalent VHSs when the media was transitioning despite the dramatically reduced cost to produce a DVD.

    because business

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Koshian wrote: »
    i'm the white guy w/ dreads & a unicycle on your university campus

    I saw a guy nearby at campus once, practicing with a unicycle while I was practicing ocarina.

    After a while I started playing a circus tune, and he had a good laugh when he caught on to what I was doing.

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    thorgotthorgot there is special providence in the fall of a sparrowRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    What doesn't make sense to me is how the cost to reproduce a digital work perfectly approaches zero, yet I'm charged close to the same price for it as the same work that comes in pretty packaging. Also I wonder why DVDs were priced about the same as their equivalent VHSs when the media was transitioning despite the dramatically reduced cost to produce a DVD.

    because business

    no, because physical packaging costs next to nothing

    you were never paying for the box

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2011
    dammit, i want dvds for 3c each! the physical product is the only part that's expensive! the marketing, production costs, distribution, and recompense for the creatives working on it are all expenses that should be borne by the studios!

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    also, people should give me money just because I'm not completely horrible and also I want a pony

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2011
    i do wish people would give me money.

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