Cause and Effect of Piracy

cintari

So I tried to get onto bioshock 2 to kill some time. Unfortunately, the constant updates that windows live insisted on me installing before I played the game made short work of that. Now the program doesn't even start up. In addition, I can't uninstall WL as it is required to play the game. It's annoying crap like this that reminds me of one of the second main reasons that people steal games, movies, any type of media; DRM. While most agree the main reason people download media is less than noble, few seem to really dwell on the other factor that keep sites like pirate bay or iso hunt up and running.
While having some form of DRM is expected, developers seems to be getting more and more extreme. Ubisofts most recent DRM, for example, requires a constant internet connection in order to play its games. Certain games affiliated with Microsoft use Windows Live which, as mentioned before, has some very frustrating "features" which make most men (like myself) repeatedly smash their foreheads into the nearest monitor and/or keyboard. Even indie games like Iron Grip: Warlord have had their share of DRM screw ups (in my case it was a faulty key system).
The newer forms of DRM punishes consumers who simply want to play the product they purchased. The frustrations from this unprovoked annoyance pushes honest consumers to download cracks or the whole game, movie, etc. all together. The presence of these new recruits helps provide a larger seeder base, from which other pirates distribute their media from. Essentially, the DRM that was once intended to prevent piracy, is actually now encouraging it.

Centipede Damascus

#firstworldproblems

DarkPrimus

cintari wrote: »

It's annoying crap like this that reminds me of one of the second main reasons that people steal games,

I'm sorry, reminds you of what now?

Mr Fuzzbutt

99% of piracy is just because people want shit for free.

They blab on about DRM and whatnot but that's really just an excuse.

SimBen

Does piracy hurt business as much as businesses say? No.

Does anyone do it for any reasons that are not entirely selfish? No.

Nothing about this is in any way new, either.

Ruby Rhod

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbq_1Wy70rE

Jordyn

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

#firstworldproblems

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRz4FY0ZcwI

#supermanproblems.

Tox

Console games don't really have this problem, do they?

I mean, to the degree and extent that PC games have it.

Butters

SimBen wrote: »

Does piracy hurt business as much as businesses say? No.

Does anyone do it for any reasons that are not entirely selfish? No.

Nothing about this is in any way new, either.

I don't think producers and publishers would spend the money and resources they do on anti-piracy solutions if they didn't have good reason to believe it costs them considerable amounts of money.

Also any individuals "reasons" are irrelevant. Piracy is stealing.

ThreadbareSock

I
Am


Job

Knob

cry more

SimBen

Butters wrote: »

SimBen wrote: »

Does piracy hurt business as much as businesses say? No.

Does anyone do it for any reasons that are not entirely selfish? No.

Nothing about this is in any way new, either.

I don't think producers and publishers would spend the money and resources they do on anti-piracy solutions if they didn't have good reason to believe it costs them considerable amounts of money.

Also any individuals "reasons" are irrelevant. Piracy is stealing.

There is a big chunk of pirated software that goes to people who would never have bought the product in the first place, making its impact less than businesses say it is.

A thousand pirated copies of a work does not mean a thousand sales lost. Maybe like a hundred, maybe less.

Butters

SimBen wrote: »

Butters wrote: »

SimBen wrote: »

Does piracy hurt business as much as businesses say? No.

Does anyone do it for any reasons that are not entirely selfish? No.

Nothing about this is in any way new, either.

I don't think producers and publishers would spend the money and resources they do on anti-piracy solutions if they didn't have good reason to believe it costs them considerable amounts of money.

Also any individuals "reasons" are irrelevant. Piracy is stealing.

There is a big chunk of pirated software that goes to people who would never have bought the product in the first place, making its impact less than businesses say it is.

A thousand pirated copies of a work does not mean a thousand sales lost. Maybe like a hundred, maybe less.

A common rationalization that would not change the fact that those 1000 people all stole something.

Tonkka

Also 100 sales lost is still 100 sales lost.

Jordyn

Knob wrote: »

cry more

I cried right into my computer's motherboard and suddenly got 10 itunes "fun bucks" which I could redeem at any Apple store for a condescending comment.

Also it broke my motherboard.

Also I broke your mother.

with my pelvis.

I forgot where I was going with this.

Usagi

most men (like myself)

Ruby Rhod

I steal from everyone. Especially babies.

Tonkka

Ruby Rhod wrote: »

I steal from everyone. Especially babies.

Man, babies don't own anything.

They don't even have object permanence or whatever.

Take that baby's stuff.

Knob

also cry more

qq

Jordyn

no no no

he steals babies

Centipede Damascus

do you know how much people will pay for a baby that has all its limbs

Gaslight

cintari wrote: »

So I tried to get onto bioshock 2 to kill some time. Unfortunately, the constant updates that windows live insisted on me installing before I played the game made short work of that. Now the program doesn't even start up. In addition, I can't uninstall WL as it is required to play the game. It's annoying crap like this that reminds me of one of the second main reasons that people steal games, movies, any type of media; DRM. While most agree the main reason people download media is less than noble, few seem to really dwell on the other factor that keep sites like pirate bay or iso hunt up and running.
While having some form of DRM is expected, developers seems to be getting more and more extreme. Ubisofts most recent DRM, for example, requires a constant internet connection in order to play its games. Certain games affiliated with Microsoft use Windows Live which, as mentioned before, has some very frustrating "features" which make most men (like myself) repeatedly smash their foreheads into the nearest monitor and/or keyboard. Even indie games like Iron Grip: Warlord have had their share of DRM screw ups (in my case it was a faulty key system).
The newer forms of DRM punishes consumers who simply want to play the product they purchased. The frustrations from this unprovoked annoyance pushes honest consumers to download cracks or the whole game, movie, etc. all together. The presence of these new recruits helps provide a larger seeder base, from which other pirates distribute their media from. Essentially, the DRM that was once intended to prevent piracy, is actually now encouraging it.

I am impressed by your deep and original insights.

Have you considered starting a blog?

Because you should start a blog, and post stuff like this there.

ThreadbareSock

I Am
Job

Dichotomy

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

do you know how much people will pay for a baby that has all its limbs

it is considerably more than you would think

TrippyJing

Dichotomy wrote: »

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

do you know how much people will pay for a baby that has all its limbs

it is considerably more than you would think

what about a used baby

Orikaeshigitae

i bet this guy has a white dude afro and pop bottle glasses

ThreadbareSock

I have never met a white person with an afro who didn't smell terrible.

Ruby Rhod

Jordyn wrote: »

no no no

he steals babies

At least somebody gets me.

Orikaeshigitae

Koshian wrote: »

i'm the white guy w/ dreads & a unicycle on your university campus

nope

Centipede Damascus

because I found this baby, see

Ruby Rhod

Koshian wrote: »

i'm the white guy w/ dreads & a unicycle on your university campus

Saw a white guy with dreads riding a giant bicycle and smoking a blunt in Amsterdam.

MKR

Gaslight wrote: »

cintari wrote: »

So I tried to get onto bioshock 2 to kill some time. Unfortunately, the constant updates that windows live insisted on me installing before I played the game made short work of that. Now the program doesn't even start up. In addition, I can't uninstall WL as it is required to play the game. It's annoying crap like this that reminds me of one of the second main reasons that people steal games, movies, any type of media; DRM. While most agree the main reason people download media is less than noble, few seem to really dwell on the other factor that keep sites like pirate bay or iso hunt up and running.
While having some form of DRM is expected, developers seems to be getting more and more extreme. Ubisofts most recent DRM, for example, requires a constant internet connection in order to play its games. Certain games affiliated with Microsoft use Windows Live which, as mentioned before, has some very frustrating "features" which make most men (like myself) repeatedly smash their foreheads into the nearest monitor and/or keyboard. Even indie games like Iron Grip: Warlord have had their share of DRM screw ups (in my case it was a faulty key system).
The newer forms of DRM punishes consumers who simply want to play the product they purchased. The frustrations from this unprovoked annoyance pushes honest consumers to download cracks or the whole game, movie, etc. all together. The presence of these new recruits helps provide a larger seeder base, from which other pirates distribute their media from. Essentially, the DRM that was once intended to prevent piracy, is actually now encouraging it.

I am impressed by your deep and original insights.

Have you considered starting a blog?

Because you should start a blog, and post stuff like this there.

Blogs are for losers.

Mr Fuzzbutt

MKR wrote: »

Gaslight wrote: »

cintari wrote: »

So I tried to get onto bioshock 2 to kill some time. Unfortunately, the constant updates that windows live insisted on me installing before I played the game made short work of that. Now the program doesn't even start up. In addition, I can't uninstall WL as it is required to play the game. It's annoying crap like this that reminds me of one of the second main reasons that people steal games, movies, any type of media; DRM. While most agree the main reason people download media is less than noble, few seem to really dwell on the other factor that keep sites like pirate bay or iso hunt up and running.
While having some form of DRM is expected, developers seems to be getting more and more extreme. Ubisofts most recent DRM, for example, requires a constant internet connection in order to play its games. Certain games affiliated with Microsoft use Windows Live which, as mentioned before, has some very frustrating "features" which make most men (like myself) repeatedly smash their foreheads into the nearest monitor and/or keyboard. Even indie games like Iron Grip: Warlord have had their share of DRM screw ups (in my case it was a faulty key system).
The newer forms of DRM punishes consumers who simply want to play the product they purchased. The frustrations from this unprovoked annoyance pushes honest consumers to download cracks or the whole game, movie, etc. all together. The presence of these new recruits helps provide a larger seeder base, from which other pirates distribute their media from. Essentially, the DRM that was once intended to prevent piracy, is actually now encouraging it.

I am impressed by your deep and original insights.

Have you considered starting a blog?

Because you should start a blog, and post stuff like this there.

Blogs are for losers.

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Dread Pirate Arbuthnot

I heard we were talking about piracy in here.

I believe I might have some unique insights.

Orikaeshigitae

"Piracy was very hard on my family. I'd rather not talk about it."

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot

yesssssss

DodgeBlan

pirates are the true patriots of These United Internets

TrippyJing

Do software pirates have nine Pirate Lords who each hold claim to a different part of the internet and only convene as a council for matters of grave import?

Dread Pirate Arbuthnot

Not only am I a dread pirate, my only infraction is for talking about piracy

I am looking forward to touring the university circuit as an expert on this important topic

Clint Eastwood

wanna get up in that booty like ARRRRR

DodgeBlan

TrippyJing wrote: »

Do software pirates have nine Pirate Lords who each hold claim to a different part of the internet and only convene as a council for matters of grave import?

Yes but the council has not convened recently due to the chaos caused by the internet kraken