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Neptune's Pride, not to be confused with his bounty or harvest

HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
edited August 2011 in Social Entropy++
Here's the link to the site, first: http://np.ironhelmet.com/

So hey, this is a game. And it happens in a browser. Thankfully it actually has some amount of quality to it and doesn't harp you to spend money or recruit people to progress. Throughout this post you're gonna see me use a lot of $ signs, but that doesn't mean actual money (the game setting I guess has adopted the United States dollar as a currency throughout the galaxy).

Neptune's Pride is a strategy game, real time, with a theme of galactic domination. It has very simple mechanics, and everything that makes the game challenging or interesting stems from how you interact with other players (peace-pacts, trade, that sort of thing). It's like the real point of the game is the social aspect, underlaying all the fleet moving.

I'm going to point out something right away - the game starts off REALLY REALLY SLOW. In real time. Your initial moves in the game will takes more or less 24 hours to complete. The game does snowball though. Even then, expect games to last anywhere from a week to a month.

Also to start games, it does cost real world dollars but I've already spent some money to be able to do that.

How to Play
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A game played by myself and some G&T folks almost a year ago, toward the start of the game.

Players are represented by colors, as well as goofy portraits. Here's a few.
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The goal of the game is to have the bulk of the stars in any given galaxy (there's several set galaxy layouts, or you can play randomized games). There is a hard number to reach in this respect.
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Like I mentioned, the game has simple mechanics and commands. You click on stars or fleets on the main screen, and you get some options what to do with them. Fleets you can queue up travel paths, and stars you build your infrastructure. There's economy, industry, and science. That's it! Also, stars have certain resource counts, represented by a number / gray-ring around the stars themselves. The bigger the resource count, the cheaper it is to build your infrastructure. The more of any given infrastructure you have on a star, the more it costs to develop more of the same kind on the same star (example: 1 economy can cost 10 space bucks, but then the 2nd point will cost like 20).

Economy - This is how you generate your money. By default, once a day, you're given your funds. Each point of economy gives you 10$.
Industry - This is how you generate ships. Ships auto generate as the day goes by. Ships can't move on their own though, you need carriers for that, and those you build at a star regardless of infrastructure for 25$.
Science - This is how you generate your technology. More on that below, but I'll note that science is the most expensive thing to develop and with good reason. Like $100 minimum.

Super Carriers - You load ships onto these. By default if a carrier is in orbit of a star, all ships produced will go to that carrier. You can move ships between carriers or even to the star.
Garrison - This is a stat for each star you control. It determines how many ships will stay on the star, for defense, and excess ships will load immediately onto any carriers in orbit.

Weapons Tech - Makes ships stronger. pew pew
Speed Tech - Makes your carriers travel faster.
Range Tech - Makes your carriers able to travel further in a single jump.
Scanning Tech - Expands how far you can see from stars under your control.

Combat and Fleet Movement

Combat is automated and simply a flat numbers game. Strength of fleets is pretty much determined by ship count x weapon level. Defending fleets have a +1 to their weapon level. You have no agency in controlling anything else aside from how many ships you move around and garrison.

Fleet moving is pretty important, especially in regard to keeping carriers alive and transporting ships for defenses to your borders (since those things cost money). When you tell a fleet to move, there will be a 30 minute period of time where you can cancel the move before the ship enters hyperspace. You cannot do anything with the fleet, nor can it interact with enemy fleets. You can queue up more jumps or remove queues, but between last destination to the next, it's just on its way.

That's why range is kind of important too - If you have stars A, B, and C, and want to get from A to C, you can save time making that straight jump. But having to stop by B adds more prep-time for jumps. There's also stars that you generally can't reach without longer range.
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The same game as above, a couple weeks later.

The Strategy

Here's what makes the game great. It's making your peace pacts, temporary or permanent, with other people. The game has a function to officially ally with others (costs like $50, just on your side - they have to spend $50 too), which informs everyone and also makes you and your allies unable to attack each other, but it also has an option to disable that function when you're starting up a game. The latter is pretty much the only fun way to do things, because it means keeping your pacts secret, and provides room for backstabs. You can also trade technology with people for $25 in a single gifting of tech, but there's no hardline this-for-that rule enforcement. You can give your tech over and not get any in return. Probably a good sign that person means to fuck you over.

You generally start out with about four stars in the game. One of them will have 50 resources, 1 science, and several economy / industry point, more or less being your valuable home (not that losing it means you lose the game). There are other stars with just as much resources, rarely a bit more, but you have to find them.

At the start your first move is to send your fleets out to grab stars. You also should decide how to pursue your tech at the start (by default, it will be weapons), and you have some money to build more infrastructure. People have two wise choices here - you can either spend your money on science, or on economy. And if you really push the envelope you save some money to build on the neutral stars you capture on day 2.

So uh, who wants to play maybe?

You don't have to really invest a lot of time in this game, not until the ending days. And I can answer more questions to shit I probably didn't explain well!

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Neptunes Pride is aces.

    Iron Helmet games also has Blight of the Immortals. Much like Neptunes pride, except it's fantasy/land based and you are working as a (kinda) team to stop the undead blight.

    Pretty danged cool as well. A nice idea they implemented is that each race has a different undead counterpart, with different skills. Not just argh generic zombies.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Neptunes Pride is aces.

    Iron Helmet games also has Blight of the Immortals. Much like Neptunes pride, except it's fantasy/land based and you are working as a (kinda) team to stop the undead blight.

    Pretty danged cool as well. A nice idea they implemented is that each race has a different undead counterpart, with different skills. Not just argh generic zombies.

    Fucking sweet, I'm gonna look into that.

  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    This looks pretty cool Henroid, thanks for bringing this to our attention!

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  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    This looks totally awesome!

    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    My roommate and I played this for about a week, and we got waaaaaaay too into it. Like, dangerously obsessed. Plotting and scheming with such fervor and intensity that we had to quit cold fucking turkey before it consumed us.

    If you get into a room with people who actually read/respond to their messages (i.e., the way the game is supposed to be played), the possibilities for crafty backstabbing are just off the goddamn charts.

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    My roommate and I played this for about a week, and we got waaaaaaay too into it. Like, dangerously obsessed. Plotting and scheming with such fervor and intensity that we had to quit cold fucking turkey before it consumed us.

    If you get into a room with people who actually read/respond to their messages (i.e., the way the game is supposed to be played), the possibilities for crafty backstabbing are just off the goddamn charts.

    This is precisely the kind of story that got me to check out the game. I heard about it from a podcast and I heard about the deceptive shit a friend of the podcast's host was pulling when they played, and how that deceptive shit ran through every game played (even from other players, usually the ones who won).

  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    I'm pretty bad at these kinds of games, but they are still some of my favorite.

    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • OmegaTofuNinjaOmegaTofuNinja Registered User regular
    This seems pretty interesting, but I'm moving right now so I ain't got time. Will dudebros be playing in like a week or so?

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    This seems pretty interesting, but I'm moving right now so I ain't got time. Will dudebros be playing in like a week or so?

    Games are going on all the time. You just look at available free games and join one, then it alerts you once the game is full and ready to start.

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  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Damn, I gotta bounce to a rave right now. If the first moves take like 24 hours, I should be fine though. It'll be fun to log in at 4am, still coming down from all the partying haha.

    Fandeathis on
    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Like I said, I'm willing to start up a custom game for forumers only, but I think everyone should at least get some experience in with some currently running public games first.

  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    Fandeathis wrote:
    Damn, I gotta bounce to a rave right now. If the first moves take like 24 hours, I should be fine though. It'll be fun to log in at 4am, still coming down from all the partying haha.
    fandy that looks exactly like a rave why did we think the exact same thing here

    but yeah I may just have to try this.

  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote:
    Like I said, I'm willing to start up a custom game for forumers only, but I think everyone should at least get some experience in with some currently running public games first.

    Yeah, I'm trying out a public game right now. Seems like it could be really fun!
    Mortal Sky wrote:
    Fandeathis wrote:
    Damn, I gotta bounce to a rave right now. If the first moves take like 24 hours, I should be fine though. It'll be fun to log in at 4am, still coming down from all the partying haha.
    fandy that looks exactly like a rave why did we think the exact same thing here

    but yeah I may just have to try this.

    Fandy is another forumer. I'm not sure if you are mixing us up or not haha. But yeah, the rave was HARD Summer, and it was glorious to see Ratatat as well as Chromeo. Boys Noize, Ducksauce, and Gesaffelstein were all solid as well.

    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    never played one of these games before

    I'll give it a shot

  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    I played Blight of the Immortals with some folks at G&T. It's pretty fun.

    I would be interested in trying this out sometime.

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  • BlurblBlurbl -_- Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    I played this a few months ago. I think I quit because being GMT gave everyone in America a huge advantage as they were giving orders 5 hours after mine, and I couldn't give any till the next day. Got really noticable in the late game when ships could move pretty quickly. Waking up and finding half your planets had been captured before you could log into the game was pretty annoying.

    But hell, I'm up for a PA game if we're doing one?

    Blurbl on
  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    Damn Druhim, your alien portrait is easily the most frightening.

    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Joined a free game.

    Things will end poorly, but it will be glorious.

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  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    I fully expect to place last in my first game. I will be stoked if I do better.

    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Fandeathis wrote:
    Damn Druhim, your alien portrait is easily the most frightening.

    Which one does he have?

  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote:
    Fandeathis wrote:
    Damn Druhim, your alien portrait is easily the most frightening.

    Which one does he have?

    This one:

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    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Oh yeah, octopus in mouthwash alien.

  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    He gave me a kind of HP Lovecraft vibe.

    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    So it seems like an important aspect of this game is to gather up potential buddies and to set up research to trade between them.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Another important tip is that speed is probably the first thing you want to research right away, for the first upgrade at least.

  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    Damn, and here I was upgrading weapons.

    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    i just upgraded range D:

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    If anyone is in the game I and Virgil are playing in, if you're teal you best speak up because I'm coming for you.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    oh man I remember talking about this for about 4 podcasts straight back in like October when we found it

    so so good

  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Fandeathis wrote:
    Damn Druhim, your alien portrait is easily the most frightening.

    I was wondering how you saw my portrait and just now noticed we're in the same game. Best of luck to ye!

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    you mention that this game costs real money

    and you talk about dropping 25-100 bucks on science or whatever

    and I am super not that rich!

  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Raneados wrote:
    you mention that this game costs real money

    and you talk about dropping 25-100 bucks on science or whatever

    and I am super not that rich!

    someone suffers from poor reading comprehension

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
    it's true I didn't read it very closely

    "suffer" is inaccurate

    I revel in it

    baby me with facts
    chop chop

    edit fuck I accidentally read the first paragraph by accident

    Raneados on
  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    Man, this needs a
    drop x ships and waypoint
    button

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  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    Druhim wrote:
    Fandeathis wrote:
    Damn Druhim, your alien portrait is easily the most frightening.

    I was wondering how you saw my portrait and just now noticed we're in the same game. Best of luck to ye!

    Haha thanks, same to you. Although I may need it more, you are currently beating me.

    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    Raneados wrote:
    it's true I didn't read it very closely

    "suffer" is inaccurate

    I revel in it

    baby me with facts
    chop chop

    edit fuck I accidentally read the first paragraph by accident

    Have you accidentally completed the video I won for the SE++ Child's Play auction?

    Also, happy August :)

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    ooooh this looks good! Might have to give it a shot.

    Hey join the free game I just joined, lets get it started.

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  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    I have 8 stars and Druhim has 18. I am not naturally good at this lol. Time to see if he's gonna screw me over on a trade. The suspense!

    You fuck wit' Die Antwoord, you fuck wit' da army.
  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
    is the server down?
    edit: nevermind I got in.

    Virgil_Leads_You on
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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Sorry, but the thread title made me think of this. Actually, any time I see the word "harvest" I think of that site.

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