I think you should stop being a bigot and let people practice their religion in whatever ways they want to
Even if their religion teaches to blow up people?
Has someone already said how dumb that statement was
if not, I will go ahead and say that your statement was really dumb.
I wasn't going to get started on it, but yes it was very narrow minded. And by narrow minded, I mean fucking stupid.
It's funny how quickly people forget the shit christianity has done to entire civilizations over the past 2000 years. Terrorism is a drop in the bucket compared to the oppression, fear and manipulation that most of the world faced from the catholic and protestant churches throughout history. Martin Luther effectively wrote the nazi manifesto against jews funny story. Keep in mind where you get your news from and how compared to the deaths from oppressive regimes, ethnic cleanings etc around the world current 'terrorist' activity is a drop in the bucket.
I think you should stop being a bigot and let people practice their religion in whatever ways they want to
Even if their religion teaches to blow up people?
Has someone already said how dumb that statement was
if not, I will go ahead and say that your statement was really dumb.
I wasn't going to get started on it, but yes it was very narrow minded. And by narrow minded, I mean fucking stupid.
It's funny how quickly people forget the shit christianity has done to entire civilizations over the past 2000 years. Terrorism is a drop in the bucket compared to the oppression, fear and manipulation that most of the world faced from the catholic and protestant churches throughout history. Martin Luther effectively wrote the nazi manifesto against jews funny story. Keep in mind where you get your news from and how compared to the deaths from oppressive regimes, ethnic cleanings etc around the world current 'terrorist' activity is a drop in the bucket.
Name one organization or community you hold in high regard that has been around for more than 150 years and has some modicum of power, and I will show you at least two times when it has abused that power for crappy reasons.
Not saying that old school catholicism is cool, it was just a way to keep peasants in line really and the entire thing was corrupt beyond belief, just saying that judging an organization based on its past is retarded unless you're dead set on hating that organization.
But, hey, 90% of people are dead set on hating catholicism, so I guess you'll just call me a retard catholic or something. Because we all know how badly you and/or your family was personally hurt by the crusades. I can see how that can be an important thing to keep in mind when judging a group of people.
Modern Catholicism isn't too bad, at least its ideals aren't. I know a lot of the people in the church can be ridiculous, but that's like saying you hate all Muslims because their religion is about death and killing.
i don't think catholics are bad and that was more of an example of how radical islamic interpretations are no different and actually alot less prevalent than radical and militant christianity of the past. note i mentioned protestants too. the ideals are fine and things are obviously alot better than they were in the past, not by impetus of the church but by them being forced to change along with social trends and their gradual loss of power. i mean even at the turn of the century there are countless instances of abuse against cultures christianty was attempting to convert.
canada's most grim example being the violent schooling system put in place to turn native aboriginals into normal god fearing citizens. they were beaten whenever they attempted to speak their own language, so i suppose that is one way of teaching obedience. honestly i don't dislike catholics (was born one) and christians, i dislike organized religion.
I think you should stop being a bigot and let people practice their religion in whatever ways they want to
Even if their religion teaches to blow up people?
Has someone already said how dumb that statement was
if not, I will go ahead and say that your statement was really dumb.
I wasn't going to get started on it, but yes it was very narrow minded. And by narrow minded, I mean fucking stupid.
It's funny how quickly people forget the shit christianity has done to entire civilizations over the past 2000 years. Terrorism is a drop in the bucket compared to the oppression, fear and manipulation that most of the world faced from the catholic and protestant churches throughout history. Martin Luther effectively wrote the nazi manifesto against jews funny story. Keep in mind where you get your news from and how compared to the deaths from oppressive regimes, ethnic cleanings etc around the world current 'terrorist' activity is a drop in the bucket.
Name one organization or community you hold in high regard that has been around for more than 150 years and has some modicum of power, and I will show you at least two times when it has abused that power for crappy reasons.
Not saying that old school catholicism is cool, it was just a way to keep peasants in line really and the entire thing was corrupt beyond belief, just saying that judging an organization based on its past is retarded unless you're dead set on hating that organization.
But, hey, 90% of people are dead set on hating catholicism, so I guess you'll just call me a retard catholic or something. Because we all know how badly you and/or your family was personally hurt by the crusades. I can see how that can be an important thing to keep in mind when judging a group of people.
Modern Catholicism isn't too bad, at least its ideals aren't. I know a lot of the people in the church can be ridiculous, but that's like saying you hate all Muslims because their religion is about death and killing.
Yeah, because it's not like modern Catholics have been associated with terrorism.
You know, except the IRA.
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I just don't think there's any good, rational reason to believe in god(s).
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watch star trek if you are doubting the place of ethereal beings in mankind's interstellar future geek. you say this now but by the end of the century you will be praying at the temple of zod
watch star trek if you are doubting the place of ethereal beings in mankind's interstellar future geek. you say this now but by the end of the century you will be praying at the temple of zod
Wait, are we talking about Star Trek or Superman now?
Also, the Prophets aren't gods either. Not really.
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Although really, there doesn't necessarily need to be a rational reason to believe in a god, because faith is a different faculty of the mind than reason is. Faith is a principle of action, reason one of consideration and thought.
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Although really, there doesn't necessarily need to be a rational reason to believe in a god, because faith is a different faculty of the mind than reason is. Faith is a principle of action, reason one of consideration and thought.
I've always said that faith and logic are mutually exclusive.
Although really, there doesn't necessarily need to be a rational reason to believe in a god, because faith is a different faculty of the mind than reason is. Faith is a principle of action, reason one of consideration and thought.
I've always said that faith and logic are mutually exclusive.
Not mutually exclusive, just different.
If anything, each benefits from the other's presence. Faith and reason are meant to operate together, at least in the classical understanding.
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haha im just kidding but if you want to take a nerd approach
it's feasible given our current technological evolution to believe that immersive virtual reality will be possible in 100 years. they are demoing quantum computing already which should make the crunching the insane algorithms required to create a realistic environment on a mass scale. so to take the vanilla sky road i do not see it as being far fetched that in the not so distant future you could be in a state where you are immersed in a virtual world without any way of knowing it. whether or not you are conscious of this depends on the person running this system. if we have been able to achieve this type of technology in such a relatively short amount of time with all the time we wasted on religious bickering war and hatred, it is not far fetched to believe that another civilization could have done the same. in which case you could create heaven, hell, the afterlife whatever you want to call it as it would just become another construct on top of our existing reality.
all that we know comes from sensory input which can be hijacked through the CNS so there is really nothing to say that reality is actually how we perceive it. so you could say that humans could have evolved into goldlike beings and created us as a project, or for nostolgia who knows...
so you could say that excluding the possibility of god is as illogical as blindly believing in one
Dude, it's so illogical to exclude the possibility of unicorns and pixies.
DP if i implied that this virtual existence means that women from japanese mangas could come alive and pleasure you in every possible way would you still be such a hater?
so you could say that excluding the possibility of god is as illogical as blindly believing in one
Dude, it's so illogical to exclude the possibility of unicorns and pixies.
DP if i implied that this virtual existence means that women from japanese mangas could come alive and pleasure you in every possible way would you still be such a hater?
"Virtual existence"? What are you, some kind of Matrix 'philosophy' nut?
Hahaha, that reminds me of some article I saw in the local paper about some church that had a studygroup about how the Matrix films were Biblical allegories.
sometime look up the wachowski brothers man they are seriously fucked. the one guy is shacked up on and off with some infamous s&m dungeon master and had a big battle with her transvestite lover or some shit i remember the article was just insane
You know, for every terrible thing mankind has brought about in the name of God, organized religion has worked in a way to help motivate society forward.
For example, evangelical meetings a few times a year were huge events for people all over the countryside in the south while this country was forming. It was a reason for people, especially the women of the house, to get out and socialize and emotionally express themselves. Without such church gatherings life would have been much worse for the countryside during our nation's formative years.
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Name one organization or community you hold in high regard that has been around for more than 150 years and has some modicum of power, and I will show you at least two times when it has abused that power for crappy reasons.
Not saying that old school catholicism is cool, it was just a way to keep peasants in line really and the entire thing was corrupt beyond belief, just saying that judging an organization based on its past is retarded unless you're dead set on hating that organization.
But, hey, 90% of people are dead set on hating catholicism, so I guess you'll just call me a retard catholic or something. Because we all know how badly you and/or your family was personally hurt by the crusades. I can see how that can be an important thing to keep in mind when judging a group of people.
Modern Catholicism isn't too bad, at least its ideals aren't. I know a lot of the people in the church can be ridiculous, but that's like saying you hate all Muslims because their religion is about death and killing.
canada's most grim example being the violent schooling system put in place to turn native aboriginals into normal god fearing citizens. they were beaten whenever they attempted to speak their own language, so i suppose that is one way of teaching obedience. honestly i don't dislike catholics (was born one) and christians, i dislike organized religion.
Yeah, because it's not like modern Catholics have been associated with terrorism.
You know, except the IRA.
LOL unmoved mover
Do you believe in love?
Wait, are we talking about Star Trek or Superman now?
Also, the Prophets aren't gods either. Not really.
great
I've always said that faith and logic are mutually exclusive.
I think you've said that before.
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If anything, each benefits from the other's presence. Faith and reason are meant to operate together, at least in the classical understanding.
it's feasible given our current technological evolution to believe that immersive virtual reality will be possible in 100 years. they are demoing quantum computing already which should make the crunching the insane algorithms required to create a realistic environment on a mass scale. so to take the vanilla sky road i do not see it as being far fetched that in the not so distant future you could be in a state where you are immersed in a virtual world without any way of knowing it. whether or not you are conscious of this depends on the person running this system. if we have been able to achieve this type of technology in such a relatively short amount of time with all the time we wasted on religious bickering war and hatred, it is not far fetched to believe that another civilization could have done the same. in which case you could create heaven, hell, the afterlife whatever you want to call it as it would just become another construct on top of our existing reality.
all that we know comes from sensory input which can be hijacked through the CNS so there is really nothing to say that reality is actually how we perceive it. so you could say that humans could have evolved into goldlike beings and created us as a project, or for nostolgia who knows...
Dude, it's so illogical to exclude the possibility of unicorns and pixies.
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Man I will say this over and over
Unicorns aren't really that much of a stretch
A guy at Boston University totally made a unicorn cow once
the matrix is real
"Virtual existence"? What are you, some kind of Matrix 'philosophy' nut?
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THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, MCCLOUD!
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This was before the third film came out.
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For example, evangelical meetings a few times a year were huge events for people all over the countryside in the south while this country was forming. It was a reason for people, especially the women of the house, to get out and socialize and emotionally express themselves. Without such church gatherings life would have been much worse for the countryside during our nation's formative years.
It is
I do believe the one changed his name to Linda Wachowski.
edit - oh shit dude is working pre production on a speed racer movie