[BATTLEFIELD 3] Open Beta Starts Now!

Angry Weasel

I want to change my vote to CHICAGO.

Alegis

Robes wrote: »

canuckont wrote:

ok so i thought this would be a nice post for here, if you havent picked it up yet.... you can get it for 29$ .... from here


it is apparently legit, and paypal so you can always get yerr monies back

*blinks* Is this real?

They're probably selling Russian/Polish keys, as games are cheaper there.

Fizban140

Angry Weasel wrote:

I want to change my vote to CHICAGO.

Yes, Chicago is the best...for me. I get under 50 ping to Chicago. Sometimes even 20.

Keasar

So, beta soon? Hm? Please? Pretty please? Damnit, I need my fix!

Satsumomo

Note that the $30 key is not the limited edition. They do have the limited for like $41.

Klyka

When they say "All modes on all maps" they MEAN IT!

http://twitter.com/#!/Demize99/status/109905105050013696

That_Guy

Klyka wrote:

When they say "All modes on all maps" they MEAN IT!

http://twitter.com/#!/Demize99/status/109905105050013696

That is awesome. Isn't Rush limited to just 32 players? It would suck to not be able to play alternating map types.

mojojoeo

That will be nuts....

Lep

I'm trying to wrap my head around how conquest would work on metro.

rRootagea

Flags are on subway trains, rotates every 4 minutes.

to take flags, you and your buddies would hang out at a stop until a train full of defenders rolled up.

Keasar

Lep wrote:

I'm trying to wrap my head around how conquest would work on metro.

64 player clusterfuck down in the subway sounds fun?
I have a theory that it might include the "overworld" part above the subway (with added details) or something or even crazier, be a completely different area like it is only set around the financial district area, the park and subway being excluded out of the map.

rRootagea wrote:

Flags are on subway trains, rotates every 5 minutes

....That would be fucking awesome, people fighting onboard the subway trains, others rolling up alongside them in jeeps to provide heavy support.

TychoCelchuuu

Battlefield 2 also had 16, 32, and 64 player versions of maps, and they were often quite different. I imagine Operation Metro is either going to have more open tunnels or not much going on underground (like, it'll be an alternate way of approaching an area rather than the entire part you're fighting over).

Sarksus

What was the max player count in the alpha? If it was just 32 then you shouldn't have been playing on the full map, because BF3 maps do expand and contract.

0Replace4Displace

It was 32 player Rush on Metro.

NickTheNewbie

I heard there's a perk you need to take in order to be able to spawn on your squad. Is that true? Are they going to make people go lone wolf all the time so that there's no need to mess withe their 1337 loadout kit?

Klyka

NickTheNewbie wrote:

I heard there's a perk you need to take in order to be able to spawn on your squad. Is that true? Are they going to make people go lone wolf all the time so that there's no need to mess withe their 1337 loadout kit?

I have not heard about this perk AT ALL.

Keasar

No such perk talked about.
In the alpha, you could spawn on the squadleader who in turn could spawn on anyone.
In the beta, you can spawn on anyone.

I think they are testing out what style to go with.

mojojoeo

Keasar wrote:

No such perk talked about.
In the alpha, you could spawn on the squadleader who in turn could spawn on anyone.
In the beta, you can spawn on anyone.

I think they are testing out what style to go with.

hes speaks truth.... it is a very hotly debated topic at DICE hq (from interview)... what we get in beta for spawning may not be final either....

That_Guy

I personally liked being able to spawn on any squad member in BC2. The "oh shit don't die" moments when you were behind enemy lines and the only one left alive, were some of my favorites.

Suriko

I hated it. One guy gets past your frontline, and suddenly you're shooting rabbits as people miraculously spring forth if you miss killing even one.

Warcry

Suriko wrote:

I hated it. One guy gets past your frontline, and suddenly you're shooting rabbits as people miraculously spring forth if you miss killing even one.

Only if you suck. This is why my favorite loadout is AR, 40mm Shotgun, Grenade Belt and Mag Ammo. You can exterminate entire squads in seconds.

TychoCelchuuu

That_Guy wrote:

I personally liked being able to spawn on any squad member in BC2. The "oh shit don't die" moments when you were behind enemy lines and the only one left alive, were some of my favorites.

But you lose out on the "oh shit protect the squad leader" and "oh even more shit revive the squad leader" moments, which isn't a fair trade I think when you factor in the negatives with squad spawning (too easy to spawn on any squad member so your "oh shit" moments are lessened, too hard to wipe out squads so the battle has less of a frontline and is more a matter of roving firefights, too little differentiation in gameplay between the leader and the members).

Zzulu

I like roving firefights because if a frontline is established in a battlefield game it means half of the players on the server go sniper and start camping eachother for 30min until the map runs its course and the other half starts spamming grenades endlessly

Vic_Hazard

TychoCelchuuu wrote:

That_Guy wrote:

I personally liked being able to spawn on any squad member in BC2. The "oh shit don't die" moments when you were behind enemy lines and the only one left alive, were some of my favorites.

But you lose out on the "oh shit protect the squad leader" and "oh even more shit revive the squad leader" moments, which isn't a fair trade I think when you factor in the negatives with squad spawning (too easy to spawn on any squad member so your "oh shit" moments are lessened, too hard to wipe out squads so the battle has less of a frontline and is more a matter of roving firefights, too little differentiation in gameplay between the leader and the members).

A minigame of VIP in the middle of battlefield sounds pretty boring. Especially for the squad leader.

Waka Laka

Lep wrote:

I'm trying to wrap my head around how conquest would work on metro.

If it is anything to go by, maps in Battlefield 2 could be made larger/smaller depending on how many players there were.

That_Guy

Waka Laka wrote:

Lep wrote:

I'm trying to wrap my head around how conquest would work on metro.

If it is anything to go by, maps in Battlefield 2 could be made larger/smaller depending on how many players there were.

I would give a kidney to see dynamic map size based on players. In BF2 you had to pick the map size and stick with it. I want to be able to start on the 16 player version and as people join the battlefield opens up to the 32 and 64 player versions. And if people start leaving, the map size drops down. There is no reason they can't load the entire 64 player version of the map and just cut off areas in real time.

Klyka

That_Guy wrote:

Waka Laka wrote:

Lep wrote:

I'm trying to wrap my head around how conquest would work on metro.

If it is anything to go by, maps in Battlefield 2 could be made larger/smaller depending on how many players there were.

I would give a kidney to see dynamic map size based on players. In BF2 you had to pick the map size and stick with it. I want to be able to start on the 16 player version and as people join the battlefield opens up to the 32 and 64 player versions. And if people start leaving, the map size drops down. There is no reason they can't load the entire 64 player version of the map and just cut off areas in real time.

Someone asked the devs on twitter if that would be in and they said "It's too messy, you could get situations where people leave and log on and the map constantly switches size and flags appear/reappear, people get stranded 'no walking' zones" etc...

Klyka

So, yeah, you guys better be ready to spend some time with your favourite kit!

http://twitter.com/#!/Demize99/status/110270195007881216

HyperAquaBlast

So if you only play one game this decade and you have OCD then this is the game to get?

Oh you poor poor OCD peeps.

Blurbl

Please please don't tell me I have to play for 100 hours to unlock all the options for one class.

I like XP unlock systems, but that's just insane.

rndmhero

Argh, so I've had this preordered for ages only to discover that I'm going to be out of town (read: away from my PC) until December. I think I may cry myself to sleep every night.

Keasar

They cant be serious, 100 hours for ONE kit? I could agree on perhaps 25-30 per kit, but that is just insane.

That_Guy

I really hope that means there is just so much more stuff to unlock. If the unlocks do not come in at about the same rate they did in BC2, I will be disappointed.

Klyka

Well,don't forget that weapon unlocks are now weapon specific. You don't just unlock "red dot scope" you unlock "red dot scope for 'insert weapon here'". The rate at which you unlock new weapons and gadgets for a class isn't bad at all, it's just that weapon customization unlocks will take time if you want ALL of them for ALL weapons.

Beef Avenger

Klyka wrote:

That_Guy wrote:

Waka Laka wrote:

Lep wrote:

I'm trying to wrap my head around how conquest would work on metro.

If it is anything to go by, maps in Battlefield 2 could be made larger/smaller depending on how many players there were.

I would give a kidney to see dynamic map size based on players. In BF2 you had to pick the map size and stick with it. I want to be able to start on the 16 player version and as people join the battlefield opens up to the 32 and 64 player versions. And if people start leaving, the map size drops down. There is no reason they can't load the entire 64 player version of the map and just cut off areas in real time.

Someone asked the devs on twitter if that would be in and they said "It's too messy, you could get situations where people leave and log on and the map constantly switches size and flags appear/reappear, people get stranded 'no walking' zones" etc...

also vehicle spawns would get really weird

That_Guy

Beef Avenger wrote:

Klyka wrote:

That_Guy wrote:

Waka Laka wrote:

Lep wrote:

I'm trying to wrap my head around how conquest would work on metro.

If it is anything to go by, maps in Battlefield 2 could be made larger/smaller depending on how many players there were.

I would give a kidney to see dynamic map size based on players. In BF2 you had to pick the map size and stick with it. I want to be able to start on the 16 player version and as people join the battlefield opens up to the 32 and 64 player versions. And if people start leaving, the map size drops down. There is no reason they can't load the entire 64 player version of the map and just cut off areas in real time.

Someone asked the devs on twitter if that would be in and they said "It's too messy, you could get situations where people leave and log on and the map constantly switches size and flags appear/reappear, people get stranded 'no walking' zones" etc...

also vehicle spawns would get really weird

I am probably oversimplifying things here, but I don't see what is so hard about it. If the server gets half way to the next size, it jumps up. Put a 5 minute cooldown on the jump down and dynamically lock off parts of the map as people die. If, after 5 minutes people are still alive outside the boundaries, slay them. All you have to do is program in wide tolerances to avoid it from jumping up and down too often.

And vehicles could still spawn in their normal locations. The map would just have area restrictions so players could not get to them.

Turambar

Is Conquest the only mode with 64 players?
No 64-player Rush?

101

That_Guy wrote:

I really hope that means there is just so much more stuff to unlock. If the unlocks do not come in at about the same rate they did in BC2, I will be disappointed.

Yeah being stuck with only a few guns/extra because I don't have that much time to put into the game would really suck.

Dusda

I'm cool with weapon specific unlocks. Pretty sure I've never seen the iron sights of at least half of BC2's weapons because of the red dot/4x global unlocks.

Keeps things fresh and shows me more of the gun. Cool.

Satsumomo

Pc. What do you want from me.

My HDD has suddenly become incredibly noisy.