Oh no a link to tvtropes now I have an excuse for being a useless piece of shit who just browses the web all day! I better make a big deal out of iiiiiiiiit
I know you're mocking this response
which is appropriate because whenever I see it
I'm like "Well, I guess you're very easily entertained, and that's probably a pretty awesome thing considering how much money it can save you over a lifetime."
I remember when you couldn't post a link to TVTropes because people would be furious that you made them spend the next few hours on that site clicking and clicking. Now people hate it. I don't remember ever liking it but this transition is so sudden! Seems like it happened in the past year or two.
I liked the phrase "30 Xanatos Pileup" and I don't know if TVTropes created it, but they exposed me to it.
I am otherwise entirely indifferent to the site and find it varies between mostly useless and mildly amusing.
I... I feel like I should stop reading Troper Tales. I feel like I'm about to become an accessory to a crime. Police at my door and shit.
Another bad story about bullying from this troper. When I was nine years old, I went to summer camp. Unfortunately, I was the youngest person in my cabin (everyone else was at least 12) and I was an Aspie still trying to figure people out. Right off the bat, there was this guy there named Thomas Umbricht. (You were there at Camp Watonka, you know who you are you fucking peice of shit!) He tomented me mercilessly. He called me gay, fat ugly, wierd, loser, idiot. He said to me: "nobody gives a fuck about you." In the first week, he held a knife to my neck and threatened to kill me in 3 weeks. It got worse. He started telling that shit to everyone on the camp, so as a result, everyone beleived I was a gay retard. Truthfully, I was weird, obsessed with StarWars, but an all around nice guy. I even blew it off for the first two weeks thinking that he would get used to me. I didn't respond, I didn't fight, I just took it. Big mistake. This even happened in front of the councilors. They even supported him. John "Joolz" Holland, I remember you, and I do not forgive you! It got to the point where a second guy in my cabin joined in and started throwing my paper airplanes reading "Eat shit retard". I'm calling you out, Robbie Fienburg! At one point, I had the wind knocked out of me just for being in front of Thomas in the ice cream line! A camp councilor saw it and took his side! I finally had enough of Thomas's shit, so in front of the dining hall, then he was calling me gay and trying to touch me, I yelled: "SHUT UP YOU WHORE!" He didn't say anything for the next 12 hours and reduced the level of shit he gave me, although it was pretty bad. I wanted to kill myself all the time. The whole experience (an entire month of extreme emotional abuse) fucked me up seriously, which made it even harder for me to connect with people, so whenever I try to connect with others, I feel a barrier and Thomas's voice in the back of my head. In a curious upside, the desire to prove that my tormentors were wrong and deluded about me drove me to succeed as a gigantic fuck you to all those fuckers who made my life hell. I'm a bit AxCrazy and I have an extreme distrust of socially glib people. P.S.: to all you guys at Watonka, fuck you!
Hey tropers, know a Thomas Umbricht? I think it's time for that bastard to get what he deserves...
Let's take that Umbricht out, honestly, not even God will forgive that level of bastardry, which is a shame, because God is the only thing he can hope stop the pain when I find him.
Is this him? http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Umbricht/1359017175
I swear to God if I ever find this Thomas Umbricht arsehole it would be like Saw or something gory like that. People like him don't deserve to breath our air.
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The fact that it is quite possible in modern America to have one's religious beliefs not affect one's politics or public life never ceases to astonish me.
What the hell is the point of a religion if you don't truly believe it, with all your heart and all your soul? In order to live in a tolerant society we have robbed religion of literally the reason it first arose: a way to live your life. A religion that allows you to "put it aside" when dealing with political issues is a castrated, pathetic thing.
Why? I might be anti-abortion, but still believe that the state does not have the power to legislate against abortions.
In fact I think it's quintessentially American to put aside your beliefs and go "Fuck that guy, but fuck it he has the right to be a douche."
Well that depends on why you are anti-abortion, doesn't it?
Yeah if lie about your beliefs to make them more palatable to others, perhaps that should give you pause about having them as beliefs.
This is my point. How does that not apply to Mormons and atheists equally?
I have never advocated that anyone lie about their religious beliefs to get elected. Perhaps you confused me with one of the other forumers who have said atheists should lie to get elected. I don't condone that at all, as I have said.
No, you said that people with unpopular beliefs should reconsider them since they're unpopular for a reason, and I pointed out that that applies to atheists just as well.
No, that's not what I said.
I did misstate it somewhat, but
He advocates the entire membership of the church be deceptive about their beliefs so that people don't get scared off at the thought of a Mormon politician.
Which, you know, suggests that people probably should be leery of them.
Are you, or are you not saying that any religious group viewed with skepticism or hostility by the public should be viewed that way?
atheists should absolutely be deceptive about their beliefs if running for political office
This really doesn't help much when people accuse atheists of being amoral.
I guess atheists are really bothered by the fact that people generally want to elect people who they feel share their beliefs.
Most atheists are amoral. Many I know are good, ethical people, and definitely not immoral. But they are amoral.
wha?
Morals are often discussed in the terms of law and are somehow constitutive of human experience. They are speculative, and it's assumed that we somehow "grasp" them, as if they have some abstract and universal property for them. They are extra-sensual. For an atheist to doubt the existence of god and yet uphold these universal absolutes that are unknowable isn't exactly a strong belief foundation.
I think the universe, human beings, conciousness, all of it is just randomness
there's nothing beyond what we see
but I still have very strong feelings of of what a moral thing is. Some would argue that sort of thinking is in our DNA
The fact that it is quite possible in modern America to have one's religious beliefs not affect one's politics or public life never ceases to astonish me.
What the hell is the point of a religion if you don't truly believe it, with all your heart and all your soul? In order to live in a tolerant society we have robbed religion of literally the reason it first arose: a way to live your life. A religion that allows you to "put it aside" when dealing with political issues is a castrated, pathetic thing.
Why? I might be anti-abortion, but still believe that the state does not have the power to legislate against abortions.
In fact I think it's quintessentially American to put aside your beliefs and go "Fuck that guy, but fuck it he has the right to be a douche."
Well that depends on why you are anti-abortion, doesn't it?
Like When Rick Perry said that states rights are paramount, even to the extent that if California or New York want to vote in gay marriage, that they should be able to do so.
But then the Tea Party passed him a memo and suddenly states right weren't quite that important, and gay marriage was never ever acceptable.
I can't believe that people are advocating for politicians to lie about their beliefs instead of actually having fucking beliefs.
atheists should absolutely be deceptive about their beliefs if running for political office
This really doesn't help much when people accuse atheists of being amoral.
I guess atheists are really bothered by the fact that people generally want to elect people who they feel share their beliefs.
Most atheists are amoral. Many I know are good, ethical people, and definitely not immoral. But they are amoral.
wha?
Morals are often discussed in the terms of law and are somehow constitutive of human experience. They are speculative, and it's assumed that we somehow "grasp" them, as if they have some abstract and universal property for them. They are extra-sensual. For an atheist to doubt the existence of god and yet uphold these universal absolutes that are unknowable isn't exactly a strong belief foundation.
I think the universe, human beings, conciousness, all of it is just randomness
there's nothing beyond what we see
but I still have very strong feelings of of what a moral thing is. Some would argue that sort of thinking is in our DNA
Yeah... I'm an ahteist, and I still have views on what is "good" and "bad".
And I believe people should strive to do good things.
Just because I don't believe in a supernatural being, it doesn't mean I don't think we have a purpose.
EG: anything at all about Egypt (eg: the exodus) in the OT is so far off from the archeologicial record (or the written records of the egyptians and others from the time it is talking about) its just absurd.
Actually, most of what the OT describes about Egypt is exactly in line with the archaeological record. We have Egyptian records for seven-year-long droughts, the story of Joseph in the Egyptian nobleman's house getting seduced by the wife is copied on the Egyptian "tale of two brothers", the cup-bearer was an important person in the Pharaoh's court, the reading of dreams was done much as the OT describes, the seal that the Pharaoh gave to Joseph was a real thing, the Pharaoh during the drought taking land "except that of the temple" is exactly in line with Egyptian civilization (where the temples accumulated so much land over the centuries and millenia they ended up rivalling the Pharaoh in power), there are expressions and names in Ancient Egyptian, and they even got the number of days between death and mummification right. "Moses" is an Ancient Egyptian name, and the Egyptians really did use straw in their clay bricks. Oh, and let's not forget Joseph living to be 110 years old, an age that Ancient Egyptians (not Jews) considered significant and wise.
Whoever wrote the Egyptian part of the OT wasn't being "absurd", he was in fact quite accurate and versed in Egyptian life and culture.
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I am. I'm not saying that Joseph and Moses are historical figures or that the specific events surrounding them happened - we have no records for that outside of the OT. But the details of Egyptian everyday life in the OT are quite accurate.
Actually no, no they aren't.
The details (and there are less than you'd think) of Egypt that are glimpsed here and there in the OT are of (specificially) northeastern egypt during the Saite period at the earliest (685-525 BCE). These are falsely thrust back in time to the bronze age despite them making no sense in that context.
Care to back that up with some examples of anachronistic details? Because otherwise I'm calling bullshit. The easiest thing to date is "A Tale of Two Brothers", which is from 1200BC. The royal cup bearer, dream interpretations, giving land to temples, and putting straw into mud bricks are all extremely old traditions as well, easily 1500-2000BC if not earlier.
Everything you just mentioned there is from the Joseph story which is a separate novella ham-handidly inserted into Genesis. And the details, while they work in a broze age setting, are vauge enough that they work just as well in a Saite period setting.
Where the OT gets things actively wrong (as opposed to just vauge) tends to do with assuming that the political situation of Saite egypt was also how things worked back during the New Kingdom or previous. EG: the bible is completely unaware that not only did none of the countries / peoples it anachronously thrusts back in time didn't exist back then but the entire region it is talking about was under the direct imperial control of the New Kingdom (or the Hittites in the north).
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I liked the phrase "30 Xanatos Pileup" and I don't know if TVTropes created it, but they exposed me to it.
I am otherwise entirely indifferent to the site and find it varies between mostly useless and mildly amusing.
Honestly if I only had the information I have about him, I'd definitely make the positive diagnosis.
Yeah, those musky, barnyard wines are usually my favorites. I love deep wines with fecality and leather and tar.
Rest, comfortable in the knowledge you are never going to be right.
For F1 Cars?
Money Pit.
Money Sink.
Waste of Money.
Money to Burn.
Use a professional wrestler name generator
Use a pornstar name generator
Mix the two names
"Thunder Biggins"
"Candy Mysterious"
"Holly Bonebreaker"
Beautiful Russian women.
My white Maverick is named after my Polish/Russian ex.
I think the universe, human beings, conciousness, all of it is just randomness
there's nothing beyond what we see
but I still have very strong feelings of of what a moral thing is. Some would argue that sort of thinking is in our DNA
oh my god
Also, who knew it was so expensive to research and prototype your own tires?
Next: V6 engine.
edit: cass moves in from behind with a bold scheme as well.
But then they aren't really morals, which is why I said that most atheists are amoral.
Like When Rick Perry said that states rights are paramount, even to the extent that if California or New York want to vote in gay marriage, that they should be able to do so.
But then the Tea Party passed him a memo and suddenly states right weren't quite that important, and gay marriage was never ever acceptable.
I can't believe that people are advocating for politicians to lie about their beliefs instead of actually having fucking beliefs.
Yeah... I'm an ahteist, and I still have views on what is "good" and "bad".
And I believe people should strive to do good things.
Just because I don't believe in a supernatural being, it doesn't mean I don't think we have a purpose.
However comparatively mundane it may be.
Everything you just mentioned there is from the Joseph story which is a separate novella ham-handidly inserted into Genesis. And the details, while they work in a broze age setting, are vauge enough that they work just as well in a Saite period setting.
Where the OT gets things actively wrong (as opposed to just vauge) tends to do with assuming that the political situation of Saite egypt was also how things worked back during the New Kingdom or previous. EG: the bible is completely unaware that not only did none of the countries / peoples it anachronously thrusts back in time didn't exist back then but the entire region it is talking about was under the direct imperial control of the New Kingdom (or the Hittites in the north).
anyway, Redford is a much better source than I am and is exceedingly detailed and sourced in his arguments. http://www.amazon.com/Egypt-Canaan-Israel-Ancient-Times/dp/0691000867
wut
the actual taste was pretty jammy and fruity in comparison to the smell
I think you should stop quoting me and changing what I've said since you don't understand the things I say in the first place.
It would probably help at this point to spell out what definition of "moral" (meaning the noun, not the adjective) you are using.
like I inhaled the wine and went
'....'
'manure. that's manure'
the taste was excellent though.
and apparently the one I blew off had a wall of fucking money
to take
what the fuck. So wrong on so many levels.
HAH
This is like race tycoon sim lite + some xp grindan game like Disgaea.
so you just think morals are based in religion?
I don't see how religion is any different from any kind of rigorous code
That's ... pretty gross.
Mint in box? SCORE!
I beat your girlfriend by a few hours
in the vagina
with a hammer
the hammer is my penis
I see. Tell me more.
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
BRING MEEEEE BRING MEEEE
without being real awkward so I didn't