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The Nu DCU - TODAY WE MOURN OMAC... ALSO, SOME NEWS (pg. 59)
Batman was a really good one to get me started with him. Detective Comics didn't really grab me, but I'll still read it I think. But Batman is definetly going to be a keeper on my list. Red Hood was alright, and Nightwing could be interesting.
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Really, when DC was going down the list of characters to revamp and re-imagine, maybe Starfire should have been somewhere near the top of the list, and given to someone who could turn her into something that's not embarrassing for me, as a comics reader.
Boy, isn't that the truth. Starfire was completely cringe worthy in Red Hood. It would have been nice if DC had had, I don't know, a female writer, revamp Starfire. Then maybe we would have gotten something balanced.
As for comics this week, I picked up Nightwing, Supergirl, Blue Beetle, and Batman. I haven't gotten to Blue Beetle yet, but I enjoyed the other three. I thought Batman and Nightwing were good, but Supergirl was great. The final splash page had an epic feel to me. I am looking forward to more.
The changes made to Starfire are jarring, but there was enough good back and forth and plot development to make me stay with the comic for a few more issues at least. I just hope that they're using Starfire's hyper-sexuality as something she's drowning her sorrows in because she's had a fucked up past, and not just for cheesecake factor.
If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten in your presence.
Did Lobdell remove himself from Twitter? He's not showing up in the search.
Yes.
Goddamn. It took Four and a half minutes listening to his YouTube answer to "has your social media presence declined since the deal with Ron Marz" video for him to answer about Twitter. It dragged on for what felt like years. Anyway, I don't even see an easy way to ask him questions that he's apparently answering. Have at it.
There's nothing wrong with Starfire being sexually active, it's the fact that they took what was a character who despite it was quite passionate and who valued her connections with others and turned her into some sort of cold, detached, flying fleshlight who can't even remember her friends that is the real problem here. Yeah, she was always kind of slutty, and that's okay. Some people are slutty. But slutty doesn't mean you have to see everyone else around you as talking dildos.
Also, the way Jason and Roy were totally cool with using an essentially brain-damaged Starfire as their own personal sextoy was more than a little icky and mysogynistic. As always, stay classy, DC.
Also, the way Jason and Roy were totally cool with using an essentially brain-damaged Starfire as their own personal sextoy was more than a little icky and mysogynistic. As always, stay classy, DC.
Not really brain damaged, no.
As far as we know that is how Tamaran's operate, sense and memory-wise.
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Sars_BoyRest, You Are The Lightning.Registered Userregular
From a human perspective, she has the mind and attention span of an animal. So I guess in that case, Roy and Jason are just cool with beastiallity, so long as she's hot. And now it seems even more vile than before. Wonderful.
My local store was sold out of wonder woman, although, it was pretty busy compared to usual and a lot of people were buying so maybe this rebooted universe and advertising is being good for business.
I agree that is dumb but calling her brain damaged when she is clearly making her own decisions and behaves like an, albeit poorly, adult as far we can see is a bit much
I agree that is dumb but calling her brain damaged when she is clearly making her own decisions and behaves like an, albeit poorly, adult as far we can see is a bit much
Yeah, you made a good point, which is why I now think it is more akin to beastiality. And again, that still casts Roy and Jason in an incredibly bad light. Our heroes, ladies and gentlemen! /linkara
Blank sell Wonder Woman to me. We often like similar things, why did you like Wonder Woman.
It is very much a mythological book, as opposed to a superhero one. Apollo is the villain, Diana fights Centaurs, that girl she meets is pregnant with Zeus' bastard son.
It basically is about how the Greek gods would be both radically different and at the same time similar if they existed in this day and age, with Diana playing the role of a Jason or Odysseus like figure.
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This is the info I was hoping to read yesterday. Just had my comic store grab me the last issue off the shelf. Fuck yes DC keep reading my mind okay?
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AntimatterDevo Was RightGates of SteelRegistered Userregular
I think there's a few, but you're the most frequent I believe.
As to the bestiality thing, aren't the Kryptonians getting a decidedly more alien feel to them as well? Just because she thinks on a different level or with a different process than human beings, that doesn't automatically put sleeping with an alien on par with bestiality.
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If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten in your presence.
The Catwoman thing doesn't bug me. Mainly because, with all the fanservice and the sex, she was also portrayed as a character that was more than just eye candy. I didn't come out of the book just thinking "Selina is sexy", I also came out of it thinking "Selina is cool". Starfire was reduced to nothing but a superpowered sex doll.
I actually though Catwoman was a pretty enjoyable book that balanced the sex appeal and the character work well. I'll stick with it for now. Red Hood is now one of the only books I'm dropping right away.
I think there's a few, but you're the most frequent I believe.
As to the bestiality thing, aren't the Kryptonians getting a decidedly more alien feel to them as well? Just because she thinks on a different level or with a different process than human beings, that doesn't automatically put sleeping with an alien on par with bestiality.
Blank sell Wonder Woman to me. We often like similar things, why did you like Wonder Woman.
It is very much a mythological book, as opposed to a superhero one. Apollo is the villain, Diana fights Centaurs, that girl she meets is pregnant with Zeus' bastard son.
It basically is about how the Greek gods would be both radically different and at the same time similar if they existed in this day and age, with Diana playing the role of a Jason or Odysseus like figure.
Hmmmm. That sounds interesting, though the preview didn't really grab me. I might wait and see how a few more issues turn out, maybe get the trade. I'm already getting a lot of books and Wonder Woman is another one that I might have bought were it not that DC had released so much other stuff at the same time.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
This is a Catwoman for 2011, and my approach to her character and actions reflect someone who lives in our times. And wears a cat suit. And steals. It’s a tale that is part crime story, part mystery and part romance. In that, you will find action, suspense and passion. Each of those qualities, at times, play to their extremes. Catwoman is a character with a rich comic book history, and my hope is that readers will continue to join us as the adventure continues.
I gave Superboy a read and liked it more than I thought I would (i.e. not in the slightest).
So the ones that I've read and enjoyed were Batman, Action, Justice League, Green Lantern, GLCorps, Red Lanterns, Red Hood, Demon Knights, and Frankenstein. I was surprised by Blue Beetle and Superboy because I wasn't too interested at first. The ones that ranged from okay to "meh" were Suicide Squad, Deathstroke, JLI, Nightwing, and Deadman.
I may end up reading most of the new 52s. I'm thinking of giving Supergirl and Wonder Woman a look. For sure though, Batman and Green Lantern will be regular buys for me. I know I'll at least grab the whole of Justice League and Action Comics' first arcs. I may keep up with most of the others for a bit by various means.
Otherwise, next week it's gonna be New Guardians, Superman, Teen Titans, and JLDark. Maybe Flash.
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Garlic Breadi'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm aRegistered User, Disagreeableregular
I wasn't big on Blue Beetle, but mostly because it's just ignoring all of his established, awesome, recent series. I mean I understand it's for new readers, so I'll still keep up, but I miss what was there
I also didn't really dig Captain Atom or Deadman, but everyone else has seemed to so I'll have to reread them. I was tired/distracted when I did the first time
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Re Captain Atom: I haven't heard a word about it since Wednesday but I wonder if they kept his old origin (framed for murder, experiment gone wrong). And Freddie Williams is a good artist.
I will be checking out WW tomorrow since everyone seems to be going gaga over it.
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Werewolf2000adSuckers, I know exactly what went wrong.Registered Userregular
Re Captain Atom: I haven't heard a word about it since Wednesday but I wonder if they kept his old origin (framed for murder, experiment gone wrong). And Freddie Williams is a good artist.
There's no explicit recounting of the origin, but
a new version of Dr. Megala appears, and there's a reference to "my accident".
I'm hoping that Superboy manages to accomplish what Morning Glories couldn't, which is tell a mind-bending story with adolescent protagonists that doesn't lead the reader on with incessant mysteries and zero resolutions.
To start, I'm glad that he's aware that the school is fictitious, since it's a fresh approach that doesn't detract from the surreality of it all.
I wasn't big on Blue Beetle, but mostly because it's just ignoring all of his established, awesome, recent series. I mean I understand it's for new readers, so I'll still keep up, but I miss what was there
On the one hand it's a little annoying to be re-introduced to familiar characters, but on the other hand I don't like the one major change that occurred, which is the transformation of Paco into a gang-banger cliche.
I luhh the Rogers/Giffen Blue Beetle, but I'm okay with what they're doing so far.
His origin is better when it's not tied into to Infinite Crisis. It was good as a launching point to get interest, but it's not as good as time goes on and it becomes annoying to explain to new readers where he came from.
I also don't mind that Paco's banging now, because now we can explore that world and dynamic. As long as if his personality remains the same and he doesn't get caught up in cliches. The fact that he's still Jaime's friend and protector is a good sign. He can still beat on an alien with a stick.
I gave Superboy a read and liked it more than I thought I would (i.e. not in the slightest).
So the ones that I've read and enjoyed were Batman, Action, Justice League, Green Lantern, GLCorps, Red Lanterns, Red Hood, Demon Knights, and Frankenstein. I was surprised by Blue Beetle and Superboy because I wasn't too interested at first. The ones that ranged from okay to "meh" were Suicide Squad, Deathstroke, JLI, Nightwing, and Deadman.
I may end up reading most of the new 52s. I'm thinking of giving Supergirl and Wonder Woman a look. For sure though, Batman and Green Lantern will be regular buys for me. I know I'll at least grab the whole of Justice League and Action Comics' first arcs. I may keep up with most of the others for a bit by various means.
Otherwise, next week it's gonna be New Guardians, Superman, Teen Titans, and JLDark. Maybe Flash.
Try OMAC if you haven't. It's a rare gem in that it's all about just being fun and flashy, even if you don't get the Kirbyisms and references.
Came here pretty much solely to talk about this. I agree with every word.
SUPER disappointed in Red Hood, my two thoughts when I saw it announced were "Fuck yeah I love Red Hood!" and then "two dudes and Starfire? I hope this doesn't just turn out to be some gangbang fantasy." ...yup
Also disappointed with Catwoman, mainly for just the last panel really. It was pretty much straight up porn. And don't get me wrong, I love porn as much if not more than the next person, but It just wasn't classy, or tastefully done, or anything. I also just came from re-reading Hush, which I think is an amazing depiction of the Batman/Catwoman dynamic, so that may have something to do with my fervor.
Read Supergirl and Wonder Woman. I guess I'm gonna at least read all of the Superman family books' first arc to see where they're all at and then we'll see what I wanna do with Supergirl. Action was good, Superboy was good, Supergirl was good but I've never really cared for her. Will more issues change that? Maybe.
Wonder Woman was very interesting so I may keep up with that.
All in all I want to give most of the ones I've read a chance so, as I keep saying, the first arc will probably decide for me instead of these first issues. Also, since I'm mainly a Marvel guy, I've got quite a bit from that side to buy weekly anyway, so cash will be the determining factor I think.
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Read Supergirl and Wonder Woman. I guess I'm gonna at least read all of the Superman family books' first arc to see where they're all at and then we'll see what I wanna do with Supergirl. Action was good, Superboy was good, Supergirl was good but I've never really cared for her. Will more issues change that? Maybe.
Wonder Woman was very interesting so I may keep up with that.
All in all I want to give most of the ones I've read a chance so, as I keep saying, the first arc will probably decide for me instead of these first issues. Also, since I'm mainly a Marvel guy, I've got quite a bit from that side to buy weekly anyway, so cash will be the determining factor I think.
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Read Supergirl and Wonder Woman. I guess I'm gonna at least read all of the Superman family books' first arc to see where they're all at and then we'll see what I wanna do with Supergirl. Action was good, Superboy was good, Supergirl was good but I've never really cared for her. Will more issues change that? Maybe.
Wonder Woman was very interesting so I may keep up with that.
All in all I want to give most of the ones I've read a chance so, as I keep saying, the first arc will probably decide for me instead of these first issues. Also, since I'm mainly a Marvel guy, I've got quite a bit from that side to buy weekly anyway, so cash will be the determining factor I think.
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Read Supergirl and Wonder Woman. I guess I'm gonna at least read all of the Superman family books' first arc to see where they're all at and then we'll see what I wanna do with Supergirl. Action was good, Superboy was good, Supergirl was good but I've never really cared for her. Will more issues change that? Maybe.
Wonder Woman was very interesting so I may keep up with that.
All in all I want to give most of the ones I've read a chance so, as I keep saying, the first arc will probably decide for me instead of these first issues. Also, since I'm mainly a Marvel guy, I've got quite a bit from that side to buy weekly anyway, so cash will be the determining factor I think.
Practice Round, my blog where I talk (mostly) about comics.
Read Supergirl and Wonder Woman. I guess I'm gonna at least read all of the Superman family books' first arc to see where they're all at and then we'll see what I wanna do with Supergirl. Action was good, Superboy was good, Supergirl was good but I've never really cared for her. Will more issues change that? Maybe.
Wonder Woman was very interesting so I may keep up with that.
All in all I want to give most of the ones I've read a chance so, as I keep saying, the first arc will probably decide for me instead of these first issues. Also, since I'm mainly a Marvel guy, I've got quite a bit from that side to buy weekly anyway, so cash will be the determining factor I think.
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After the last two days, I cannot wait to see the Internet react to Voodoo.
Well, so much for no DC this week. I got Supergirl and Wonder Woman. I feel like I read most of Supergirl on S_D because it's big flashy action, but I like it. I can't believe I don't have Action 1. Actually, these two are the only books I've actually read which is weird. WW was really cool, and it did kind of remind me of Greek Street and something or the other I read from Vertigo.
Hm. Looks like I'll end up with about a quarter of the #1s. Wow. Never expected that.
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Boy, isn't that the truth. Starfire was completely cringe worthy in Red Hood. It would have been nice if DC had had, I don't know, a female writer, revamp Starfire. Then maybe we would have gotten something balanced.
As for comics this week, I picked up Nightwing, Supergirl, Blue Beetle, and Batman. I haven't gotten to Blue Beetle yet, but I enjoyed the other three. I thought Batman and Nightwing were good, but Supergirl was great. The final splash page had an epic feel to me. I am looking forward to more.
Goddamn. It took Four and a half minutes listening to his YouTube answer to "has your social media presence declined since the deal with Ron Marz" video for him to answer about Twitter. It dragged on for what felt like years. Anyway, I don't even see an easy way to ask him questions that he's apparently answering. Have at it.
As far as we know that is how Tamaran's operate, sense and memory-wise.
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/09/22/starfire-catwoman-sex-superheroine/
Yeah, you made a good point, which is why I now think it is more akin to beastiality. And again, that still casts Roy and Jason in an incredibly bad light. Our heroes, ladies and gentlemen! /linkara
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This is the info I was hoping to read yesterday. Just had my comic store grab me the last issue off the shelf. Fuck yes DC keep reading my mind okay?
i could easily be wrong
As to the bestiality thing, aren't the Kryptonians getting a decidedly more alien feel to them as well? Just because she thinks on a different level or with a different process than human beings, that doesn't automatically put sleeping with an alien on par with bestiality.
I actually though Catwoman was a pretty enjoyable book that balanced the sex appeal and the character work well. I'll stick with it for now. Red Hood is now one of the only books I'm dropping right away.
Closer to pedophilia I would imagine.
Jordyn on occasion but not much these days
There's a few girls in SE++ that like comic but they don't come in here
It's pretty much just you who posts regularly (and I'm glad you do!)
Hmmmm. That sounds interesting, though the preview didn't really grab me. I might wait and see how a few more issues turn out, maybe get the trade. I'm already getting a lot of books and Wonder Woman is another one that I might have bought were it not that DC had released so much other stuff at the same time.
The rich comic book history defense!
edit: and a nice CA article about why Catwoman and Red Hood fail in terms of liberated sexuality
So the ones that I've read and enjoyed were Batman, Action, Justice League, Green Lantern, GLCorps, Red Lanterns, Red Hood, Demon Knights, and Frankenstein. I was surprised by Blue Beetle and Superboy because I wasn't too interested at first. The ones that ranged from okay to "meh" were Suicide Squad, Deathstroke, JLI, Nightwing, and Deadman.
I may end up reading most of the new 52s. I'm thinking of giving Supergirl and Wonder Woman a look. For sure though, Batman and Green Lantern will be regular buys for me. I know I'll at least grab the whole of Justice League and Action Comics' first arcs. I may keep up with most of the others for a bit by various means.
Otherwise, next week it's gonna be New Guardians, Superman, Teen Titans, and JLDark. Maybe Flash.
I also didn't really dig Captain Atom or Deadman, but everyone else has seemed to so I'll have to reread them. I was tired/distracted when I did the first time
I will be checking out WW tomorrow since everyone seems to be going gaga over it.
There's no explicit recounting of the origin, but
EVERYBODY WANTS TO SIT IN THE BIG CHAIR, MEG!
To start, I'm glad that he's aware that the school is fictitious, since it's a fresh approach that doesn't detract from the surreality of it all.
On the one hand it's a little annoying to be re-introduced to familiar characters, but on the other hand I don't like the one major change that occurred, which is the transformation of Paco into a gang-banger cliche.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
I mean, I understand doing it for characters from 20+ years ago
but Blue Beetle's series started five years ago
just fuckin'...re-release it monthly
His origin is better when it's not tied into to Infinite Crisis. It was good as a launching point to get interest, but it's not as good as time goes on and it becomes annoying to explain to new readers where he came from.
I also don't mind that Paco's banging now, because now we can explore that world and dynamic. As long as if his personality remains the same and he doesn't get caught up in cliches. The fact that he's still Jaime's friend and protector is a good sign. He can still beat on an alien with a stick.
Try OMAC if you haven't. It's a rare gem in that it's all about just being fun and flashy, even if you don't get the Kirbyisms and references.
Came here pretty much solely to talk about this. I agree with every word.
SUPER disappointed in Red Hood, my two thoughts when I saw it announced were "Fuck yeah I love Red Hood!" and then "two dudes and Starfire? I hope this doesn't just turn out to be some gangbang fantasy." ...yup
Also disappointed with Catwoman, mainly for just the last panel really. It was pretty much straight up porn. And don't get me wrong, I love porn as much if not more than the next person, but It just wasn't classy, or tastefully done, or anything. I also just came from re-reading Hush, which I think is an amazing depiction of the Batman/Catwoman dynamic, so that may have something to do with my fervor.
Batman was the fukken shit though.
Wonder Woman was very interesting so I may keep up with that.
All in all I want to give most of the ones I've read a chance so, as I keep saying, the first arc will probably decide for me instead of these first issues. Also, since I'm mainly a Marvel guy, I've got quite a bit from that side to buy weekly anyway, so cash will be the determining factor I think.
Wonder Woman was very interesting so I may keep up with that.
All in all I want to give most of the ones I've read a chance so, as I keep saying, the first arc will probably decide for me instead of these first issues. Also, since I'm mainly a Marvel guy, I've got quite a bit from that side to buy weekly anyway, so cash will be the determining factor I think.
Wonder Woman was very interesting so I may keep up with that.
All in all I want to give most of the ones I've read a chance so, as I keep saying, the first arc will probably decide for me instead of these first issues. Also, since I'm mainly a Marvel guy, I've got quite a bit from that side to buy weekly anyway, so cash will be the determining factor I think.
Wonder Woman was very interesting so I may keep up with that.
All in all I want to give most of the ones I've read a chance so, as I keep saying, the first arc will probably decide for me instead of these first issues. Also, since I'm mainly a Marvel guy, I've got quite a bit from that side to buy weekly anyway, so cash will be the determining factor I think.
Wonder Woman was very interesting so I may keep up with that.
All in all I want to give most of the ones I've read a chance so, as I keep saying, the first arc will probably decide for me instead of these first issues. Also, since I'm mainly a Marvel guy, I've got quite a bit from that side to buy weekly anyway, so cash will be the determining factor I think.
Well, so much for no DC this week. I got Supergirl and Wonder Woman. I feel like I read most of Supergirl on S_D because it's big flashy action, but I like it. I can't believe I don't have Action 1. Actually, these two are the only books I've actually read which is weird. WW was really cool, and it did kind of remind me of Greek Street and something or the other I read from Vertigo.
Hm. Looks like I'll end up with about a quarter of the #1s. Wow. Never expected that.