The Nu DCU - TODAY WE MOURN OMAC... ALSO, SOME NEWS (pg. 59)

wirehead26

Arryn wrote: »

Doesn't seem to be much like Ultimate; if anything it just seems to be an alternate reality story. Not really a brand, just one book.

With Ultimate you still had familiar characters just in different circumstances. Tony Stark was still Iron Man for example.

With E-2 the only ones that are still the same seem to be the Trinity.

Isn't that the ENTIRE DCU right now?

Harry Dresden

wirehead26 wrote: »

Arryn wrote: »

Doesn't seem to be much like Ultimate; if anything it just seems to be an alternate reality story. Not really a brand, just one book.

With Ultimate you still had familiar characters just in different circumstances. Tony Stark was still Iron Man for example.

With E-2 the only ones that are still the same seem to be the Trinity.

Isn't that the ENTIRE DCU right now?

Partially. Green Lantern & Batman continuity is mostly intact from the previous universe.

Tairu

Far from dark and brooding, but magic with a capital "M", Gary and I are out to reintroduce Billy Batson and his journey to becoming a hero.

From Geoff Johns twitter.

There's a different look at the Wizard's search in Chapter 1, Billy's new home in Chapter 2 and a strange twist on Dr. Sivana in Chapter 3.

Garlic Bread

Blankzilla wrote: »

Harry Dresden wrote:

Does DC now have 2 Earth's 2's? One's the brand that JMS launched with Superman, the other is the new universe that World's Finest comes from? Or am I mistaken?

The Earth-2 OGN's aren't in a connected Earth-2 universe as far as we know, it is just a brand.

but yeah that is kind of dumb

Those are called Earth One, dudes

Harry Dresden

Tairu wrote: »

Far from dark and brooding, but magic with a capital "M", Gary and I are out to reintroduce Billy Batson and his journey to becoming a hero.

From Geoff Johns twitter.

There's a different look at the Wizard's search in Chapter 1, Billy's new home in Chapter 2 and a strange twist on Dr. Sivana in Chapter 3.

This is puzzling. They're confusing potential readers by releasing an image that makes the new Cap look like a stereo-typical angsty 90's super-hero then saying this.

Centipede Damascus

Tairu wrote: »

Far from dark and brooding, but magic with a capital "M", Gary and I are out to reintroduce Billy Batson and his journey to becoming a hero.

From Geoff Johns twitter.

There's a different look at the Wizard's search in Chapter 1, Billy's new home in Chapter 2 and a strange twist on Dr. Sivana in Chapter 3.

words cannot express how tired I am of writers doing "twists" on characters

Tairu

Harry Dresden wrote: »

Tairu wrote: »

Far from dark and brooding, but magic with a capital "M", Gary and I are out to reintroduce Billy Batson and his journey to becoming a hero.

From Geoff Johns twitter.

There's a different look at the Wizard's search in Chapter 1, Billy's new home in Chapter 2 and a strange twist on Dr. Sivana in Chapter 3.

This is puzzling. They're confusing potential readers by releasing an image that makes the new Cap look like a stereo-typical angsty 90's super-hero then saying this.

I'm thinking they chose it because it was dramatic. I saw it and figured he'd probably show more than one emotion.

TexiKen

I kind of wonder how they'll mess up the Creeper in the DCnU now, if/when he's introduced.

initiatefailure

i figured that was the "I'm being struck by lightning" pose

wirehead26

I think I made the right choice in sticking with Batman only for my one DC book. I've already given up on Action Comics. I'll get some trades of the other "New 52" books down the line if I hear good things about them. Swamp Thing and I,Vampire are the two big ones for me.

UltimateInferno

Blankzilla wrote:

Harry Dresden wrote:

Does DC now have 2 Earth's 2's? One's the brand that JMS launched with Superman, the other is the new universe that World's Finest comes from? Or am I mistaken?

The Earth-2 OGN's aren't in a connected Earth-2 universe as far as we know, it is just a brand.

but yeah that is kind of dumb

The OGN's are Earth One...

Tairu

TexiKen wrote: »

I kind of wonder how they'll mess up the Creeper in the DCnU now, if/when he's introduced.

I think he made a cameo in JLI#1? He looked normal. I mean, Creeper normal.

Tairu

Man, I can't stop rereading the preview for Batman Odyssey Green Arrow #7.

The dialogue is so fucking weird. I love it.

Robos A Go Go

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

Tairu wrote: »

Far from dark and brooding, but magic with a capital "M", Gary and I are out to reintroduce Billy Batson and his journey to becoming a hero.

From Geoff Johns twitter.

There's a different look at the Wizard's search in Chapter 1, Billy's new home in Chapter 2 and a strange twist on Dr. Sivana in Chapter 3.

words cannot express how tired I am of writers doing "twists" on characters

Calling it now: Shazam's rogues gallery will now include at least one pedophile.

Munch

Shazam and the North American Monster Brigade of Legitimate Animosity.

Tairu

When Ivan, Joe and I spoke about Prisoner-Of-War with our editor Pat McCallum we went back and forth quite a bit. We wanted this soldier, this man who was held captive for years and the only survivor of his squad, to be and feel like a faceless victim of war. One who was now fighting for his freedom and identity. But his identity is clouded by the mysterious powers he gained after his fellow soldiers were killed. The shackles he wears are golden like Aquaman’s trident, but a source of another power. When we meet Prisoner-Of-War he is a far cry from the man he once was…or will be.

That is literally the description for Unknown Soldier, isn't it?

Munch

I hope when he punches people, the sound effect is always "POW!"

UltimateInferno

I should probably start picking up Aquaman again.

Tairu

Munch wrote: »

I hope when he punches people, the sound effect is always "POW!"

It'll say P-O-W! with hyphens

In my head, that dogtag necklace is what gave Aquaman the inspiration to wear the necklace he wore in Justice League

Rans

seems like the Other League Aquaman story is a rip off of Joe Kelly's Obsidian Age JLA/Aquaman story

Tairu

They changed the DC Comics website and while it looks cooler, the only two pages I frequent- the blog and the comic release date page- make no sense.

Harry Dresden

Robos A Go Go wrote: »

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

Tairu wrote: »

Far from dark and brooding, but magic with a capital "M", Gary and I are out to reintroduce Billy Batson and his journey to becoming a hero.

From Geoff Johns twitter.

There's a different look at the Wizard's search in Chapter 1, Billy's new home in Chapter 2 and a strange twist on Dr. Sivana in Chapter 3.

words cannot express how tired I am of writers doing "twists" on characters

Calling it now: Shazam's rogues gallery will now include at least one pedophile.

Mr. Mind being more serious is good IMO. In the past he was great used that way, like in

52

and Goyer's and Johns' JSA.

HadjiQuest

Tairu wrote: »

They changed the DC Comics website and while it looks cooler, the only two pages I frequent- the blog and the comic release date page- make no sense.

Yes.

That site was minimal and fairly solid, but this upgrade still bucks the trend of being completely without reason. At the same time, yeah, the blog seems like it's just in random order from the last 2 weeks.

HadjiQuest

Also, I have to say that I read the new Night Force.

It was... a comic.

Wolfman's dialogue is in a middle-ground between the Bronze age and the current style of comics. So, it's not completely bizarre and stilted and expository, but sometimes it has choppy moments.

The bigger problem was that the book just felt totally generic.

Linespider5

Tairu wrote: »

Man, I can't stop rereading the preview for Batman Odyssey Green Arrow #7.

The dialogue is so fucking weird. I love it.

I don't believe I'm writing this, but that preview is not nearly a good as Batman Odyssey.

That there was a direct route into Genericville with passes through Not Doing Any Research and Tired Gender-Based Plot Devices.

Arivia

Linespider5 wrote: »

Tairu wrote: »

Man, I can't stop rereading the preview for Batman Odyssey Green Arrow #7.

The dialogue is so fucking weird. I love it.

I don't believe I'm writing this, but that preview is not nearly a good as Batman Odyssey.

That there was a direct route into Genericville with passes through Not Doing Any Research and Tired Gender-Based Plot Devices.

Nocenti's at least switching up the traditional gendered stereotypes of women in comics.

TexiKen

The Source Blog is just a pain right now, I agree. It was the way a blog should have been, top to bottom, newer stuff at top. It works because it's only job was to get information across on a rather limited subject, key news blurbs about DC, and I didn't have to keep on clicking to read the news points. Now it goes left to right with boxes everywhere, which means more clicking and I lose that instant access feel to what it was.

I can understand updating everything else, as it still doesn't feel as painful to navigate the DC site as Marvel's is, just leave the blog alone.

Rans

Yes new website is terrible. The blog shouldn't be so much work to get to the news that DC really really wants you to read. The new comics release page is fucking awful terrible and it's the one thing I always thought DC's site did better than Marvel's site. Now neither of them do anything very well.

Arryn

HadjiQuest wrote: »

Also, I have to say that I read the new Night Force.

It was... a comic.

Wolfman's dialogue is in a middle-ground between the Bronze age and the current style of comics. So, it's not completely bizarre and stilted and expository, but sometimes it has choppy moments.

The bigger problem was that the book just felt totally generic.

This was something I was worried about. Wolfman was great back in the day, but I wondered if he was going to go down the same path as Byrne, Claremont, Stan Lee, etc.; namely that weird trend where creators who were acclaimed a few decades back just can't seem to recapture that magic.

Harry Dresden

Arryn wrote: »

HadjiQuest wrote: »

Also, I have to say that I read the new Night Force.

It was... a comic.

Wolfman's dialogue is in a middle-ground between the Bronze age and the current style of comics. So, it's not completely bizarre and stilted and expository, but sometimes it has choppy moments.

The bigger problem was that the book just felt totally generic.

This was something I was worried about. Wolfman was great back in the day, but I wondered if he was going to go down the same path as Byrne, Claremont, Stan Lee, etc.; namely that weird trend where creators who were acclaimed a few decades back just can't seem to recapture that magic.

Nowdays I'm skeptical about blaming the writers for bad or mediocre runs like this at DC after the Static debacle.

JoJoHoraHora

UltimateInferno wrote: »

Assassin's Creed: Shazam is going to be a fun game!

DouglasDanger

JoJoHoraHora wrote: »

Assassin's Creed: Shazam is going to be a fun game!

Tairu

Man, the Other League stuff in Aquaman is seeming pretty bizarre. At first I thought it was like a Swords and Sandals Justice League, but the members include a sword wielding prophet, an allegorical faceless modern soldier, and a covert super-spy operative.

Arivia

Harry Dresden wrote: »

Arryn wrote: »

HadjiQuest wrote: »

Also, I have to say that I read the new Night Force.

It was... a comic.

Wolfman's dialogue is in a middle-ground between the Bronze age and the current style of comics. So, it's not completely bizarre and stilted and expository, but sometimes it has choppy moments.

The bigger problem was that the book just felt totally generic.

This was something I was worried about. Wolfman was great back in the day, but I wondered if he was going to go down the same path as Byrne, Claremont, Stan Lee, etc.; namely that weird trend where creators who were acclaimed a few decades back just can't seem to recapture that magic.

Nowdays I'm skeptical about blaming the writers for bad or mediocre runs like this at DC after the Static debacle.

I don't think DC's at fault for that one, really.

HadjiQuest

Arryn wrote: »

HadjiQuest wrote: »

Also, I have to say that I read the new Night Force.

It was... a comic.

Wolfman's dialogue is in a middle-ground between the Bronze age and the current style of comics. So, it's not completely bizarre and stilted and expository, but sometimes it has choppy moments.

The bigger problem was that the book just felt totally generic.

This was something I was worried about. Wolfman was great back in the day, but I wondered if he was going to go down the same path as Byrne, Claremont, Stan Lee, etc.; namely that weird trend where creators who were acclaimed a few decades back just can't seem to recapture that magic.

It honestly could get better, Baron Winter is building a team and so far it's just a cop three days from retirement and a girl with amnesia.

So, uh, yeah...

Harry Dresden

Arivia wrote: »

Harry Dresden wrote: »

Arryn wrote: »

HadjiQuest wrote: »

Also, I have to say that I read the new Night Force.

It was... a comic.

Wolfman's dialogue is in a middle-ground between the Bronze age and the current style of comics. So, it's not completely bizarre and stilted and expository, but sometimes it has choppy moments.

The bigger problem was that the book just felt totally generic.

This was something I was worried about. Wolfman was great back in the day, but I wondered if he was going to go down the same path as Byrne, Claremont, Stan Lee, etc.; namely that weird trend where creators who were acclaimed a few decades back just can't seem to recapture that magic.

Nowdays I'm skeptical about blaming the writers for bad or mediocre runs like this at DC after the Static debacle.

I don't think DC's at fault for that one, really.

Why do you think that?

Arryn

Tairu wrote: »

Man, the Other League stuff in Aquaman is seeming pretty bizarre. At first I thought it was like a Swords and Sandals Justice League, but the members include a sword wielding prophet, an allegorical faceless modern soldier, and a covert super-spy operative.

This has me a little confused too. Since these guys were supposed to be Aquaman's team before the League, how does that work with the 5 years thing?

I guess I had the impression that this team was supposed to be made up entirely of Atlanteans, but these last 3 reveals have pretty much blown that *ahem* "out of the water."

Harry Dresden

Arryn wrote: »

Tairu wrote: »

Man, the Other League stuff in Aquaman is seeming pretty bizarre. At first I thought it was like a Swords and Sandals Justice League, but the members include a sword wielding prophet, an allegorical faceless modern soldier, and a covert super-spy operative.

This has me a little confused too. Since these guys were supposed to be Aquaman's team before the League, how does that work with the 5 years thing?

I guess I had the impression that this team was supposed to be made up entirely of Atlanteans, but these last 3 reveals have pretty much blown that *ahem* "out of the water."

That was my impression, as well.

Arivia

Harry Dresden wrote: »

Arivia wrote: »

Harry Dresden wrote: »

Arryn wrote: »

HadjiQuest wrote: »

Also, I have to say that I read the new Night Force.

It was... a comic.

Wolfman's dialogue is in a middle-ground between the Bronze age and the current style of comics. So, it's not completely bizarre and stilted and expository, but sometimes it has choppy moments.

The bigger problem was that the book just felt totally generic.

This was something I was worried about. Wolfman was great back in the day, but I wondered if he was going to go down the same path as Byrne, Claremont, Stan Lee, etc.; namely that weird trend where creators who were acclaimed a few decades back just can't seem to recapture that magic.

Nowdays I'm skeptical about blaming the writers for bad or mediocre runs like this at DC after the Static debacle.

I don't think DC's at fault for that one, really.

Why do you think that?

The story was pretty clear from both McDaniels and editorial that Rozum hadn't kept up and someone had to step in and fix things.

nightmarenny

So having finally gotten to JL 6 I don't really see the issue when it comes to the Motherboxes. They didn't commit suicide or whatever. Looks like the only thing that happened is Cyborg got a pretty big power increase. Which is unsurprising since he(if I remember correctly) is now cobbled together from experiment alien tech and motherbox energy(or whatever).