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PA comic: Friday Oct. 28, 2011 - Fibocracy

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edited October 2011 in The Penny Arcade Hub
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  • jackaljackal Fuck Yes. That is an orderly anal warehouse. Registered User regular
    What which is measured improves. That which is lied about has no need to.

  • rabidmuskratrabidmuskrat Registered User regular
    Love the smug look there.

    I just hit level 3 myself on fitocracy today. Finally got myself to start working out again.

  • paenianpaenian Registered User new member
    Speaking of fitocracy... anyone have an invite? ceciljbrown at gmail dot com would really appreciate one :-P

    Thanx!

  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    Fitocracy? Sounds like Communism to me.

    Want to find me on a gaming service? I'm SwashbucklerXX everywhere.
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    jackal wrote:
    What which is measured improves. That which is lied about has no need to.

    My platitude of choice for fitocracy is "you don't make a pig fatter by weighing it"

  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    they made working out into an mmorpg? well shit.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I have no idea what this is about, but I think I'd rather have a comic about Battlefield. I am requesting a redo.

  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    They just had a comic about Battlefield!

    And I like this one. That is one hell of a bench press to do 300 times!

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  • LTMLTM Bikes and BeardsRegistered User regular
    I guess I hadn't ever considered that people were lying to fitocracy.

    That makes it less interesting to me.

  • Jacques L'HommeJacques L'Homme BAH! He was a rank amateur compared to, DR. COLOSSUS!Registered User regular
    Dude's killing them Oreo reps though.

  • IvarIvar Oslo, NorwayRegistered User regular
    So it doesn't track anything, it just believes anything you say?
    Well, that ensures it can never be a competitive thing, but maybe you could still use it to keep track of your own exercise.

  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    LTM wrote:
    I guess I hadn't ever considered that people were lying to fitocracy.

    That makes it less interesting to me.

    People will cheat in anything, even if they are only cheating themselves.

    I've even seen people inflate their scores to unrealistic perfect scores and records in games where suchs thing are otherwise unobtainable.

    Rehab on
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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    I've been thinking this sounds like a great way to finally get motivated to lose weight before PAXEast2012. It's still invite only though - do we know when it might be available to everyone?

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Rehab wrote:
    LTM wrote:
    I guess I hadn't ever considered that people were lying to fitocracy.

    That makes it less interesting to me.

    People will cheat in anything, even if they are only cheating themselves.

    I've even seen people inflate their scores to unrealistic perfect scores and records in games where suchs thing are otherwise unobtainable.

    I looked at the best times on Arkham Asylum yesterday and one of them was under a second.
    I've been thinking this sounds like a great way to finally get motivated to lose weight before PAXEast2012.

    If you're not motivated now it won't make you motivated. Motivation doesn't exist, there's just doing something or not doing it. "motivated" people generally don't think about their motivation because they're too busy getting on with it.

  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    I've been thinking this sounds like a great way to finally get motivated to lose weight before PAXEast2012. It's still invite only though - do we know when it might be available to everyone?

    Go to: http://ftcy.co/uXhMAR

    You will be able to join and it will automatically add you to the Penny Arcade group.

  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    Rehab wrote:
    LTM wrote:
    I guess I hadn't ever considered that people were lying to fitocracy.

    That makes it less interesting to me.

    People will cheat in anything, even if they are only cheating themselves.

    I've even seen people inflate their scores to unrealistic perfect scores and records in games where suchs thing are otherwise unobtainable.

    I looked at the best times on Arkham Asylum yesterday and one of them was under a second.
    I've been thinking this sounds like a great way to finally get motivated to lose weight before PAXEast2012.

    If you're not motivated now it won't make you motivated. Motivation doesn't exist, there's just doing something or not doing it. "motivated" people generally don't think about their motivation because they're too busy getting on with it.

    I agree. I don't use Fitocracy for motivation, it's just a fun way to track progress.

  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    YodaTuna wrote:
    I've been thinking this sounds like a great way to finally get motivated to lose weight before PAXEast2012. It's still invite only though - do we know when it might be available to everyone?

    Go to: http://ftcy.co/uXhMAR

    You will be able to join and it will automatically add you to the Penny Arcade group.

    Oh my goodness I am going to fill so many meters

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Rehab wrote:
    I've been thinking this sounds like a great way to finally get motivated to lose weight before PAXEast2012.

    If you're not motivated now it won't make you motivated. Motivation doesn't exist, there's just doing something or not doing it. "motivated" people generally don't think about their motivation because they're too busy getting on with it.

    Until 3 days ago, I hadn't exercised in 9+ months, even though I knew I ought to be and wanted to get healthier. Since Wednesday, I've been exercising every day, even willingly waking up early so I can exercise.

    What changed 3 days ago? Gabe tweeted about Fitocracy and I got an invite.

    If you're saying that motivation has to come from something internal, that you have to want to be fit, well, you're right about that. But as weird as it may sound to you or anyone reading this, getting on that site has turned my nebulous desire into firm action.

    Think of it like a Skinner box, only instead of getting me to 'water Strawberries' every 4 hours, it's gotten me to try to figure out ways to exercise as often as possible.

    Edit: I also want to add that the community makes a difference, too. The fact that I'm surrounded by fellow geeks there makes it a more welcoming place for me than other tracking websites I've tried. And having a community - even an e-community - for support helps.

    Cambiata on
    "excuse my French
    But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
    - Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    .....off to make room for his pal ]{im_Bong_Ill (so called for his tyrannical occupation of the bong for more than fifteen minutes over at Jorf's)

    Gold!

  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    YodaTuna wrote:
    I've been thinking this sounds like a great way to finally get motivated to lose weight before PAXEast2012. It's still invite only though - do we know when it might be available to everyone?

    Go to: http://ftcy.co/uXhMAR

    You will be able to join and it will automatically add you to the Penny Arcade group.

    Thanks - it worked! Time to dust off the treadmill I guess.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Cambiata wrote:
    What changed 3 days ago? Gabe tweeted about Fitocracy and I got an invite.

    Good for you, let me know if you're still doing it in two years.

  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote:
    What changed 3 days ago? Gabe tweeted about Fitocracy and I got an invite.

    Good for you, let me know if you're still doing it in two years.

    http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/07/nobodys-going-to-help-you-and-thats-awesome.html

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Cambiata wrote:
    What changed 3 days ago? Gabe tweeted about Fitocracy and I got an invite.

    Good for you, let me know if you're still doing it in two years.

    Such a grump. Naturally if I assume failure then it'll happen.

    http://www.neatorama.com/2011/10/22/whats-a-better-predictor-of-achievement-than-intelligence-grades-or-personality/

    "excuse my French
    But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
    - Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Syphyre wrote:
    Cambiata wrote:
    What changed 3 days ago? Gabe tweeted about Fitocracy and I got an invite.

    Good for you, let me know if you're still doing it in two years.

    http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/07/nobodys-going-to-help-you-and-thats-awesome.html

    Yep, 95% of self-help books are bullshit. But there is that 5%.

    It's like with certain diets I've tried. Raw foods, say. Raw foods aren't more easily digestible than cooked foods (less so, I would think), and that idiocy about 'enzymes' makes me facepalm. But if I hadn't done a raw foods diet for a short period, I would never have discovered kelp noodles, and kelp noodles are amazing.

    Edit: Just in case anyone was wonder what kelp noodles are: http://www.amazon.com/Raw-Kelp-Noodles-12-ozs/dp/B004Q69V9K
    Basically, if you like spaghetti or asian noodle dishes, but are concerned because of how caloric/high carb noodles are, worry no more. The best part is that because they're made from Kelp, they aren't a nutritional wasteland like regular pasta is. And don't ever buy them online, you can get them for a percentage of that price just by getting them at a Korean grocery store.

    Cambiata on
    "excuse my French
    But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
    - Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    Yeah my post wasn't really directed at you nor Tube, I just thought I'd throw it in there because I love the line in that article.

    I discovered a fantastic way to halt weight gain (well for me, being semi reasonably active.) The amount of soda in my house is now zero.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Syphyre wrote:
    Yeah my post wasn't really directed at you nor Tube, I just thought I'd throw it in there because I love the line in that article.

    I discovered a fantastic way to halt weight gain (well for me, being semi reasonably active.) The amount of soda in my house is now zero.

    Yeah, giving up soda (several years ago) was a bonus from another diet I did about 6 years ago - called food combining. Again, a totally BS premise, but it did get me off soda forever (to the point that I don't even like soda now).

    "excuse my French
    But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
    - Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Cambiata wrote:
    Such a grump. Naturally if I assume failure then it'll happen.

    I'm not being a grump, I genuinely hope you succeed. Three days is nothing though. Three months is nothing. Three years is a lifestyle.

  • OddfishOddfish On opposite weeks In odd numbered monthsRegistered User regular
    I'm one of those lucky bastards who remains generally physically fit with minimal effort. But, whenever I have friends who like to do any form of exercise I get genuinely excited about/interested in their plans mostly because there's a great deal of mutual motivation going on there. Of course, I perform these activities with fellow nerds. Our appreciation of such activities are markedly at odds with the Gym Membership/Gettin' Fuckin' Jacked/Muscle Milk crowd.

    It's more of a "I don't want to look like a paraplegic zombie so I'll do, like, some push-ups and bust out the WiiFit" crowd.

    This whole Fitocracy thing sounds like a brilliant idea if you have a small group or *cough* guild the purpose of which is to motivate its members to improve. Some people need a little bit of affirmation from without to get going. If this is the way they can get it, then, hells yeah! Besides, leveling up IRL? Basically everything I've ever wanted.

    regarding the comic: that is the only facial expression anyone should have when eating oreos. smug and self-satisfied.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Cambiata wrote:
    Such a grump. Naturally if I assume failure then it'll happen.

    I'm not being a grump, I genuinely hope you succeed. Three days is nothing though. Three months is nothing. Three years is a lifestyle.

    Even if Fitocracy only gave me motivation to work out for 3 days, that was still motivation. Motivation to (1) start a program and motivation to (2) continue with it for the rest of my life are two separate things. Because Fitocracy gave me the motivation for (1) but is unable to give me motivation for (2), that doesn't negate the initial positive outcome.

    Haters gonna hate.

    "excuse my French
    But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
    - Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Working out for three days isn't a positive outcome, it's an irrelevant one that's had no effect on anything. It's laughable that pointing this out is now considered "hating"

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    "Hey, I just got a job!"
    "Good for you, let me know if you still have it in two years."

    "Hey, I just lost 10 lbs!"
    "Good for you, let me know if you haven't gained it back +5 in two years."

    "Hey, I just got got my malignant tumor removed!"
    "Good for you, let me know if you're still alive in two years."

    "excuse my French
    But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
    - Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    I started working on my weight issues in January, and Tube is right. You an easily undo three days of exercise with a large pizza.

    But good luck and all that. The key is to not think of it as a thing you're doing temporarily, but as a normal part of your life's routine.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Cambiata wrote:
    "Hey, I just got a job!"
    "Good for you, let me know if you still have it in two years."

    "Hey, I just lost 10 lbs!"
    "Good for you, let me know if you haven't gained it back +5 in two years."

    "Hey, I just got got my malignant tumor removed!"
    "Good for you, let me know if you're still alive in two years."

    The fact that you think those are analogous is genuinely laughable

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote:
    I started working on my weight issues in January, and Tube is right. You an easily undo three days of exercise with a large pizza.

    I started working on my weight issues about 13 years ago. I am not new to this train. If you only just started working on this issue in January, you really can't compete with the amount of knowledge I have on the subject.

    You may wish to retort that since I'm still not as fit as I would like to be, that means I don't know anything yet: Well, as with any subject, your failures teach you as much as - perhaps more - than your successes. If nothing else, I have a great deal of knowledge about how my body and mind work, how they react to different things - words, actions, smells, foods, the influence of others, my habits, etc. With each failure, there was always at least one healthy habit added or unhealthy habit removed.

    Maybe some people don't need any outside stimuli to keep them on track. That must be very nice for them. Some of us, however, do need pictures of how we want to look, food logs, goal setting, self-rewards for goals reached, tape measuring and weight measuring, "before" photos, and all those other little psychological tricks that help a person remain on track. And when we're feeling like we're not going to be able to continue, like we're going to eat too much or fail to go to the gym when we swore we would, sometimes one of those little tricks is just enough of a push to get us out of the ditch and back on the path.

    The point is, that if someone is bubling with enthusiasm towards something they're doing - whether it's exercise, or going to college, or learning how to paint - it's not really very kind or productive to imply that they'll probably fail at it. Even if that were true. Especially since science tells us that the greatest indicator of success is hope.

    "excuse my French
    But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
    - Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Science teaches us that the best indicator of success is results.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Cambiata wrote:
    "Hey, I just got a job!"
    "Good for you, let me know if you still have it in two years."

    "Hey, I just lost 10 lbs!"
    "Good for you, let me know if you haven't gained it back +5 in two years."

    "Hey, I just got got my malignant tumor removed!"
    "Good for you, let me know if you're still alive in two years."

    The fact that you think those are analogous is genuinely laughable

    The only analogy is that all of the replies are unprovoked insults. You could even make the statement generic and it still works as an insult:

    "Hey, I just [did something I'm proud of]!"
    "Good for you, let me know if you've [failed irrevocably] in two years."

    "excuse my French
    But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
    - Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    A closer analogy would be this:
    "I just made 10 baskets in a row, I could be a professional someday!"
    "Call me when that happens, kid."

    It's best not to celebrate a small success as if it were a large one because you can easily become complacent and stop striving for more. Especially when you're talking about something like fitness where you can literally undo weeks of progress in one night.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    If you lost 10 lbs in three days then you had something surgically removed.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Opty wrote:
    A closer analogy would be this:
    "I just made 10 baskets in a row, I could be a professional someday!"
    "Call me when that happens, kid."

    Actually to use your situation, it would be more like:
    "I just made 10 baskets in a row!"
    "Good for you, let's see if you still care about basketball in 2 years."

    It's... well, as I said, an unprovoked - if not insult, at least unprovoked verbal vomitus. Like someone smiling because they're so happy and someone else saying, "What the fuck are you smiling at?" Not really helpful in any way, it's just someone spreading their bad day around. Maybe that's what's up with Lewie P, just having a bad day. I'm sorry if that's the case, and I hope his day gets better from now on.
    It's best not to celebrate a small success as if it were a large one because you can easily become complacent and stop striving for more. Especially when you're talking about something like fitness where you can literally undo weeks of progress in one night.

    I know myself well. Being happy about exercising isn't going to start me eating whole pizzas. Other factors might well get me eating junkily, but certainly not exercise. I already know from long, painful personal experience that exercise doesn't make you lose weight, so I'm in no danger of thinking, "Oh I exercised today, that means I can have a pint of ice cream!". I'm also perfectly aware, again, from personal experience, that doing an hour or two of cardio every day for 3 months isn't going to make any startling body changes in a person. It will make you feel better, though, and it's good for your health which is the actual reason to do it.

    Probably the greatest danger that being excited about exercise will get me is making me want to exercise more. Whereas feeling negative about how little I've exercised so far will net absolutely zero benefits and if I gave in to those kinds of feelings it might even cause me to stop exercising altogether.

    "excuse my French
    But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
    - Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    man some guy is proud of starting to exercise

    good for you guy

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