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Beating a dead horse: Pregnancy chances?
kj01
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I know this topic has probably been done (no pun intended) millions of times... but I was just curious of the chances of pregnancy when the girl is on a birth control pill and takes it as instructed. My girlfriend and I have recently begun to really begin to start thinking more seriously about it, and she's been on the pill for menstrual reasons. We haven't fully done it... but it's gotten close (proximity-wise... there hasn't been any _real_ penetration). So, again, just curious.
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The pill is something like 98% effective when used properly.
Condoms are slightly higher. Condoms also protect against other things.
Use a condom.
You'd think this kind of information would be gospel by now.
OP, look up the various birth control methods on wikipedia, they'll list both "perfect use" rates, and "typical use" rates.
The pill is 99.9% perfect use, and 95% typical use.
Compare that to 98% and 82-90% respectively for the condom.
Combination of both would be better than all rates there.
This is not true. Condoms are substantially less effective than the pill in preventing preganacy. They are more effective in preventing disease transmitted by bodily fluids.
If you are both disease free, and are certain that the other is monogamous, than the pill, taken exactly as instructed, is the most effective birth control method bar none.
If you use it as instructed.
That usually means taking it every single day at the same time every day.
If you aren't certain she's taking her birth control properly, use a condom.
It is a statistic. I couldn't tell you the specifics, but typically it means that out of a finite number of test subjects who used the condom properly for (usually) a year, 98% did not experience a pregnancy.
"The Pill" is typically 99.9% effective.
Out of 100 women per year, how many will experience a pregnancy
Pills are notoriusly picky, and for best results need to be taken at the same time every day. Which, to me at least, is an inconvenient pain in the ass.
I also had an allergic reaction to the glue used in the patch (orthoevra), so if she is allergic to much, just be careful. I reccomend Nuvaring because of it's slightly better protection (98 typical use, I believe I'll look up more if you want)
Also, use a condom.
Oooooo. Good one. I had forgotten about that one, its pretty recent. Its the pill, but way harder to forget and mess it up.
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Or don't have sex. You play with fire, expect to get burnt, etc.
Don't listen to corcorigan, pregnancy is not a punishment for premarital intercourse. However, it still is a possibility, so you should have a chat with your girlfriend about what you two will do should she get pregnant. Better to have it cleared up beforehand, even if it never happens, than to scramble when it does.
I never said pregnancy was punishment. I quite enjoy pre-marital sex. Same way I go out drinking. I know that increases the chances of me drunkenly stepping in front of a car or getting beaten up, but it's well worth the risk.
Funny you should use that example as I stand roughly twice as much risk of getting hit by a car this year as I do of impregnating a girl who is using the pill properly, assuming I were to find one to have sex with for the duration of the year.
Really? Pill's on the NHS, so it's safer, more fun, and cheaper.
What a wonderful excuse to stay in.
Something to keep in mind?
Not being able to have children when you decided you want to would be a bad thing.
Really? Never heard of that one.
The pill is fine, but do you trust her enough to take it correctly? People are very forgetful.
If you're going to get a vasectomy, have some of your sperm frozen for later use, so you can just do in vitro later.
Another good idea is to get a prescription for the morning after pill, so that if you do have a condom break or a missed pill or something you can be absolutely sure it's not a problem.
Another point is a recent study linking dementia with vasectomy. That's some seriously bad shit there.
They look like relatively small numbers for a study, but it's disturbing none the less.
In other words, a condom is technically 100% effective. No sperm passes through it, they're impervious to breakage, and they stay on the penis.
Does that mean that everyone keeps them well-stored (reduces sturdiness), or doesn't wear 2 at a time (breaks them), or doesn't check it occasionally to see if it's still on, or doesn't slather their penis in lube prior to putting one on? Or that they don't get close, take them off, and then ejaculate on their woman's stomach and miss, hitting their vulva and labia? Or are people never going to use Trojan Breaktacular Truckstop Brand condoms (trojans are the only condoms I've ever heard people have break, and have had one break on me as well)?
Same with the pill. Does everyone take it within the same time frame every single day?
There's a lot that people can do that cause these things to be below 100%. It's reasons like that why you hear people recommend 2 different methods, because the likelihood of both failing simultaneously is phenomenally low. However, the problem is that the test for failing birth control results in a baby.
My wife has no problems with abortion, and readily admits to me that if we were to have a problem with our birth control methods, she would get one. I support the idea. Your girlfriend may not, though, which is why you should talk about things.
If you're confident in her ability to take birth control regularly and responsibly, you should have no problems. If you're not all that serious about her, and haven't taken blood tests (and you're not both virgins), you should wear a condom anyway, as you could pass something between you (such as HPV).
Don't stress too much. Be responsible, but have fun. You're going to have more issues with sex if you're stressed out so much about something. If you take precautions and talk about it with your partner, you know you'll both be on the same page, and you'll be able to enjoy the moment that much more.
Yeah, I meant to add something about freezing sperm but I think I forgot...
And you can get a prescription for the morning after? Or did you mean just pick it up from Planned Parenthood or something?
It prevents an egg from being released, as it's just essentially a megadose of the same stuff in birth control pills. Therefore it's also safe for those who are ethically opposed to abortion, as despite propaganda it does nothing to abort an embryo.
For some people. Not for people who believe that life begins at conception, for them even condom use is equivalent to abortion. Heil Pope Benedict and all that.
But yes, papal edicts that deign sex without the purpose of reproduction to be a sin would indeed not be covered by Plan B or condoms, but I can't imagine they would be investigating sex at all
According to the people in all the Catholic churches I was forced to attend growing up, "life begins at conception" = "as soon as you do teh sex, you're a parent".
Your friend is a retard who got incredibly lucky.
You can also be infertile or have problems conceiving. Who knows sometimes. Some people have problems having kids, others seem to have kids thanks to one slip-up. The real problem is that the way you find out if your birth control method failed is that you have a kid on the way. But it's all levels of risk. I know couples who are pretty lazy with birth control because they're not trying to have kids but wouldn't be opposed to the idea. I know others who are really religious (like, my uncle w/ 7 cousins who each have like 3 kids each) who don't really care and so far have had babies until they have surgery to stop. And lots of close friends who are obviously doing all they can to make sure they don't have babies now.
Your friend was really lucky, or they have something wrong with them. Not exactly paragons of responsibility if it's just luck, though.