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PA comic: Wednesday December 21, 2011 - Inevitability

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edited December 2011 in The Penny Arcade Hub
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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    My Chiss also looks like a space pimp. He's got that kind of smugly good-looking Jude Law face. I wish there was an emote where he could slap himself.

  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    edited December 2011
    "This Chiss is bananas"? I threw up a little in my mouth.

    I also kinda resent this comic for reinforcing the "LOL F2P" shit. It's gotten pretty obnoxious how people are crying the death of a game that's barely out.

    Edit - Keep in mind I'm not blindly defending the game, I'm just saying there's a difference between skeptical / critical and frothing at the mouth like an idiot. "If it's not WoW, it's gonna be F2P and fail, lolz." Give me a break.

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  • HamjuHamju Registered User regular
    In the last few seconds before the servers went down before the official launch my Chiss, with his chiseled frame, went to the local cantina, unequipped his armor, and danced on the bar until the server could take no more and shut down.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Henroid wrote:
    "This Chiss is bananas"? I threw up a little in my mouth.

    I, uh

    sure thing dude

  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote:
    Henroid wrote:
    "This Chiss is bananas"? I threw up a little in my mouth.

    I, uh

    sure thing dude

    Not familiar with the song, Jacob? <_<

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Henroid wrote:
    Jacobkosh wrote:
    Henroid wrote:
    "This Chiss is bananas"? I threw up a little in my mouth.

    I, uh

    sure thing dude

    Not familiar with the song, Jacob? <_<

    no but now I think that was the best part of the strip!

  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    what song?

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Are you guys kidding about not knowing that song?

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo But do you really believe him? Registered User regular
    I think Henroid could be a hollaback girl.

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Henroid wrote:
    Are you guys kidding about not knowing that song?

    If I had said something about not knowing that song, or at least not recognizing it, I wouldn't have been kidding.

    May have heard it at some point, but I don't recognize any song out of there at first glance.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Shit, now I'm the one outed for recognizing it!

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    SabreMau wrote:
    Henroid wrote:
    Are you guys kidding about not knowing that song?

    If I had said something about not knowing that song, or at least not recognizing it, I wouldn't have been kidding.

    May have heard it at some point, but I don't recognize any song out of there at first glance.

    K-I-D-D-I-N-G.

    Good strip. Haven't played it yet but yeah, good luck to this one. Hope it does better than Galaxies.

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  • IvarIvar Registered User regular
    What song?

  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    man seeing lots of 4th panels I see them talk like that all the time and it's great when they say things like that.

    And Henroid? "I threw up in my mouth a little?" Ugh... I threw up in my mouth a little.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    I don't think they're complaining about the death of a game more that F2P is proving to be a better business model than Monthly.

    Honestly for an MMO I don't know how that could be true but whatever I'm not a money wizard.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    I don't think they're complaining about the death of a game more that F2P is proving to be a better business model than Monthly.

    Honestly for an MMO I don't know how that could be true but whatever I'm not a money wizard.

    The thing is, there's a stigma attached to the F2P model. I talk to people all day in CoX and DDO about how each of those games are "failures" even though they're holding on strong.

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  • FalxFalx Registered User regular
    Finally a good guest strip.

  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    Also a lot of games that go F2P end up making more money than they were as subscription-based.

  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    cox is f2p now?

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote:
    I don't think they're complaining about the death of a game more that F2P is proving to be a better business model than Monthly.

    Honestly for an MMO I don't know how that could be true but whatever I'm not a money wizard.

    The thing is, there's a stigma attached to the F2P model. I talk to people all day in CoX and DDO about how each of those games are "failures" even though they're holding on strong.

    The stigma is " I paid full price but now the guy who waited paitently instead of grabbing a day one purchase doesn't"

    Admittedly for Team Fortress I can see being a bit miffed but it was like ten bucks so even there it's not really justified.

    If anything if a game can go that route and last a month I would wager it's more of a success.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell CharlottesvilleRegistered User regular
    ok, i so do not need a new game addiction, but this comic is pushing me further into actually subscribing to TOR. thanks Obam...Gabe.

    what really bites is that i'll have to drop $60 for the game AND an additional $15 a month on top of that. dammit, i'd rather eat and/or wait for Steam sales.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Opty wrote:
    Also a lot of games that go F2P end up making more money than they were as subscription-based.

    Indeed. But a lot of people don't pay attention to that info, or choose to not believe it, and become obstinate loud-mouths about it being a sign of failure. It's really perpetuated by a few titles making the change when things looked grim. Didn't the new Final Fantasy MMO make the change like one month in?

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    league is bigger than wow now. f2p has merit

    FF14 is completely free because it's that bad

    Jars on
  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell CharlottesvilleRegistered User regular
    F2P leaves a bad taste in the mouth because you essentially pay for better gear and items, rather than leveling up like everyone else in a subscription-based mmo.

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    unless it's lol where you literally are paying money to look cool

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  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Oh see, here's the problem, I love No Doubt, but hate Gwen Stefani.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote:
    Opty wrote:
    Also a lot of games that go F2P end up making more money than they were as subscription-based.

    Indeed. But a lot of people don't pay attention to that info, or choose to not believe it, and become obstinate loud-mouths about it being a sign of failure. It's really perpetuated by a few titles making the change when things looked grim. Didn't the new Final Fantasy MMO make the change like one month in?
    FF14 just stopped charging because the game was a pile of shit and broken. They're planning to start charging again soon.

  • IvarIvar Registered User regular
    Oh, THAT song. Yeah, I heard it on the radio a number of times some years ago, but it didn't seem very interesting, and I never noticed the banana part. No Doubt is pretty good, though.

  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    So TOR ain't all that then? I heard nothing but good things.

    Oh brilliant
  • Tim-YatesTim-Yates Registered User
    edited December 2011
    Henroid wrote:
    Shit, now I'm the one outed for recognizing it!

    Ahahaha I didn't get it until I read a couple of the back and forth between you and jacob. And yeah, you totally lose street cred for even picking up that it was a reference to that song. Like -2 to street cred man.

    Also, for having a webcomic about the freakin game you'd think I'd be playing it by now, but nope. No time! :(

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  • TurambarTurambar Avocado at law Registered User regular
    I think it's great

    It's basically WoW from a couple of expansions ago + newer graphics + Star Wars + BioWare dialogue and characters

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  • NorthNorth Registered User regular
    Don't kid yourself. MMO's go f2p when their subscription based models are failing to pay the bills. It's absolutely a legitimate sign of failure when a game has to make that jump.

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    No, it isn't. If a company can make more money on one business model than another, they should change to that business model. "failing" has nothing to do with it.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    North wrote:
    Don't kid yourself. MMO's go f2p when their subscription based models are failing to pay the bills. It's absolutely a legitimate sign of failure when a game has to make that jump.

    yeah no

    City of Heroes was actually very profitable and was riding a pretty big surge in subscribers after Going Rogue came out

    their decision to go quasi-F2P was based on "Gentlemen, is there a way we can make more money?" and the answer was "Yes, we switch to a free/premium model like Champions Online and DDO"

    they switched and have seen a manyfold increase in profit since that switch

    they could have stayed with a pure subscriber model and continued to sustain the exact same amount of money they always have, the game's been around for nearly eight years, it's older than WoW, it ain't goin' nowheres.

    it was purely a decision of "We're making this much profit now, but we could be making more"

  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    North wrote:
    Don't kid yourself. MMO's go f2p when their subscription based models are failing to pay the bills. It's absolutely a legitimate sign of failure when a game has to make that jump.

    Dunno. I like the model, especially for DDO (which has returned to be one of my favorite MMORPGs). While I still have to pay (over time) to enjoy the game the way I like it I'm no longer feeling the pressure to play (except over very very short periods of time).
    No pressure to "get the most out of my month". Which means I can play, drop the game, pick it up again and drop it as I like.

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  • IvarIvar Registered User regular
    The cost of running a MMO does not decrease if they go from subscription to free play, assuming the same number of players.

  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    I object on the grounds that Chiss did not come out of the Unknown Regions until after the death of the Emperor. They should not be in The Old Republic.


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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote:
    I object on the grounds that Chiss did not come out of the Unknown Regions until after the death of the Emperor. They should not be in The Old Republic.


    I'm sure I'm the only one who cares about this.

    dude this is the internet

    odds are there's a whole forum dedicated to just that specific gripe

  • The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
    There are some definite upsides for the company in the F2P model, particularly in the 'make a lot of money' area. For a player it kind of bugs me, especially in the MMO space, and not because I think the quality of the players decreases. That argument can only be made successfully in very particular cases. What bugs me is that I actually find subscription MMOs to be a better gaming value than many other games. This is not to say that I begrudge other games their price tag, but when I'm deeply invested in an MMO I'm paying $15 for basically my entire month's entertainment, whereas when I'm out of an MMO I'll drop $60 on a new big label game, or a lesser amount on several indie games. With F2P MMOs I usually end up paying way more than I did when they were subscription, because I have poor impulse control. I know that's on me and I know I'm the sort of person who's validating their business model, but it has led to me playing fewer and fewer MMOs

    Also I got the Hollaback Girl reference at first glance. Because I love that song. No shame.

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