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PATV: Season 3, Ep. 14 - Hope Springs Eternal (4th Panel)
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"The lowest of hanging fruits."
"Maybe even fruit that has fallen on the ground."
"Michael, I don't believe you."
There's an obvious Nazi German influence on the design of Star Wars, the Storm troopers, the outfits and helmets, the presentation of the Empire etc. The German for 'father' is 'vater' which is very close to 'Vader', strangely close considering the story arc of those films.
If true that would essentially make Darth Vader "Darth Dad" which is much more consistent with the Darth Maul, Dart Sidious, Darth Undeadu naming cockfuckery.
There may be an inverse relationship between ones knowledge of star wars minutiae and ones ability to achieve great things
This was really, really funny.
$ rm harman
rm: remove harman (yes/no)? y
harman removed.
Clearly, unless you are invested in Star Wars and all it's expanded upon elements these facts will be lost on you. Sadly, it seems no one in the PA family are *ardent* Star Wars fans else someone would have taken the time to explain these elements to Mike. The other poor choice here is *listening* to a Star Wars novel. The simple fact of the matter is, spoken aloud, it can be hard to make Star Wars (especially the Expanded Universe) sound less then over the top outside of a game like KOTOR or SWTOR. Much of the lore for both Jedi and Sith are just full of names and mystical elements that, at first glance, seem a bit ridiculous.
But, read further into it and it begins to make sense once you understand the context. I've found that the audio books often do a poor job with that, especially when the narrator is trying to inflect an almost royal theater/Shakespearean air about the story. Take the time to actually read a Star Wars novel (the good ones anyway, which, sadly, as of late, have been few and far in-between, i.e. see all books in the Fate of the Jedi series...) and they become far more enjoyable and, most importantly, palpable.
Jerry: "Usually."
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Scholar by day, rogue by night.
"If all I ever got was one shot, I'd still never blame fate."
The problem is, even the in universe explanation is kind of dumb. At least as it pertains to dealing with people who aren't Sith. Mike and Jerry were absolutely right. Darth Andedu is a stupid gimmicky name for a necromancer, and the Trade Federation guys were morons for ever entering any kind of scheme with a guy who's name was Sidious.
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However, I do kind of like the idea that they are imagining they are being given the names by the Force. That's kind of adorable.
"I think the Force is fucking with you."
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Darth Equalitus.
Darthin Luther King Jr.
Mohandas Darth-di
Darther Teresa
I got nuthin'.
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this is called the George Lucas Theorem
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Damn.
This was my immediate response to Tube but didn't want to incur his wrath. :oops:
yes.
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I think this is a pretty good example of what I think is the most aggravating argument a superfan of whatever mythos can use against outsiders. Someone criticizes some element of the Star Wars mythos, and immediately a Star Wars superfan has to leap in and explain, "The only reason you have this criticism is because you are ignorant of the explanation provided by the countless writers who've accidentally cobbled together the Star Wars mythos over the past 35 years."
It doesn't help that the in-universe explanations you've provided are totally unsatisfying. The dark side of the force provided the name Darth Vader because "vader" is the Dutch word for "father?" Why the hell does the force know Dutch? Are there Dutch people in Star Wars? And besides, the practice of Sith Lords recieving a name from the Dark Side sounds, to me, like a convention invented by a hack writer who didn't really understand the difference between the Sith and the Jedi. I thought the Sith were supposed to be fiercely individualistic and thought of the force as flowing from themselves and their passions, or at least thought of the force as something to be bent to the will of their passions. Why the hell are they accepting the force's guidance with regards to their names? Wouldn't it have been a better artistic decision to say that the Sith named themselves, or named their apprentices as an act of control?
But this is where discussion tends to run into a wall with superfans, because they seem to believe, on some base level, that there is a literal Star Wars reality that the extended universe is a description of, when, of course, any sci-fi/fantasy universe is just a bundle of artistic decisions, all of which are open to criticism. I remember once I told a friend of mine (who is a bigger SW fan than I am) that I thought that Episode III's explanation of the emperor's facial deformities was infuriatingly ridiculous; I had always assumed that the emperor looked the way he did because he was using the dark side of the force to extend his lifespan, which had the side effect of making him look hideous and corrupt. I thought my assumption had worked pretty well thematically, because it helped to illustrate the difference in the way the Sith and the Jedi approached death; the Sith chose survival no matter the cost, whereas the Jedi made peace with death, and, as a result, got to pass their knowledge and guidance on to the next generation.
My friend's response? Was it an interesting rebuttal, that argued why the emperor getting his face mutated by his own lightning because he was too stupid to stop doing it (which force lightning had never been shown to do to anyone at any point in the film series up until that moment) worked better for the story thematically or logically than the explanation I had assumed from watching the original trilogy? No, it was this:
"Well, your assumption was wrong."
Hilariously delusional.
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The "dark side gives you the name" explanation also doesn't make any sense. Sidious gave Anakin the name Vader in Ep III. Also, you'd think that if the names were meant to be significant to that Sith's destiny, Vader would've looked up the meaning to his name and figured out he was a daddy long before he unknowingly meets his daughter in Star Wars.
Steve B is right, any expanded universe explanation is just a way to try and explain away horrible names.
Anyway, I've watched this episode and the previous (e 13, s3) this morning in London, and the advertising served to me has been *ahem* controversial. The ad is from a UK based gambling/betting company (online/high street) for an upcoming race, their mobile app and general advertising I guess. Anyway, the ad is based around the idea of "Ladies Day" at the Races (Cheltenham in this case), which, if you are not familiar with, relates to women dressing up for the races (quite normal). However, it gets worse, with the ad inviting watchers to see if they can tell the difference between regular (probably wrong word) and transgendered ladies. The ad has been pulled by several broadcasters here, like ESPN, Channel 4 and the like, while also having been pulled by Clearcast
I guess you guys don't have really much day to day control over what ads are served in other countries, but I thought you would like to know
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/23/paddy-power-ad-channel-4-bskyb?newsfeed=true
http://www.clearcast.co.uk/news/show/144/