critique of philosophical explorations in anime should be like a whole 'nother field with a particular denomination
like the ideas explored in anime are usually faux-profound and can be taken as sophomoric tripe. hell, they don't ever take you into the mental depths of heidegger or some shit.
but they're delved into with such emotional extremity that they produce something in the viewer like trauma. does anybody else know what i'm gettin at
Opinions on all of the gundams. Well, the ones that have aired in the states at least.
Wing - Kinda awesome when you're 14. The dumbest fucking thing ever when you're an adult.
G Gundam - Somewhat different. Kinda dumb coming from the SERIOUS BUSINESS that was Wing. As an adult, its still dumb, but also AWESOME.
00 - First season is legitimately one of the better alternate universe shows. Second season just kinda ignores everything that made S1 good. The movie is.. uhh.. We don't talk about the movie.
Original - Dated look is kinda hard to get past. Some dumb/awesome designs, too. Still one of the best shows.
0080 - The kid is kinda annoying, but if you're not bawling at the end you have no soul. Also: refer to avatar.
0083 - Very pretty. The main characters are fucking horrible, though. Retcons the shit out of the timeline in a bad way, too.
08th MS Team - Also very pretty, really fun, and just fucking solid for all 11 episodes. Yep. 11 episodes.
SEED - Hm. The original but with even angstier, prettier teenagers. Not, that great, but not awful either, and it has some fun characters who frankly deserved better shows (Mwu). Fucking full of stock animation.
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I concur with you for the most part, here are opinions on more gundams
Original: The movie compilations remain my favorite anime. Ever. Of all time. Over everything else. That said,
Zeta: This is the best Gundam series. Nuff said. The movie trilogy is worth checking out for the gorgeous new animation, but they changed the ending to make it not as good/not as depressing.
ZZ: Haven't actually seen it, don't really plan to. Worth checking out if you really like UC, I suppose.
Char's Counterattack: One of Gundam's highlights, a must-watch.
F91: It holds a special place in my heart but it's basically a series that got crammed into a movie.
Turn A: Regarded as Tomino's best, amazing design work by Syd Mead and soundtrack by Yoko Kanno, bu enhhehhhh I found it kind of problematic.
MS Igloo: Nice visuals if you get a hardon for robots like I do, otherwise pretty formulaic/not great
finally,
Unicorn (Gundam UC): HOLY FUCKING SHIT WATCH THIS RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
Well I mean, ZZ never made it to the states in any form iirc.
F91 is very good, though.
Unicorn is pretty, but otherwise just okay.
I watch way more mecha animethan is healthy.
I've only seen like a quarter of Turn A, but I think just entirely on aesthetic grounds its one of my favorites. I only really stopped because they announced an NA release. Now I need to get back to it now that said release has been cancelled.
I haven't seen F91, but I've read Crossbone, which is pretty good, if tainted by some really fucking awful fanservice.
ZZ I hear is overall pretty awful, and has some pretty low lows, but when its good its actually pretty damn good. Its just too bad those parts are like maybe a fifth of the series.
Victory is apparently an over-dark, kinda ridiculous mess thats salvaged by having a really good protagonist and some pretty creative fight scenes.
the MSG movies plus Zeta are pretty much the high water mark of the franchise, though.
That said, I haven't really watched anything mecha more recent than, uhh... Macross Frontier?
ZZ is not very good overall. There's a good reason it didn't get localized. Same with After War Gundam X.
F91 is solid. I will defend it until my last breath. Victory is reaaaaaaaaaally great. It's very "kill everyone", but that lends it a sort of weight that makes people take it more seriously. Well, as seriously as one can take it for anime.
Turn A is really great, but holy fuck I hate the design on every level.
RE the Evangelion Rebuilds: HOLY SHIT YES THEY ARE AMAZING SPEND YOUR DOLLARS ON THEM RIGHT NOW
ahahahaha the only show theyre playing from episode 1 is big o (because its finale makes even less sense than tenchi's)
Actually, Big O's last season just ended its run on Adult Swim so they're actually restarting it (hopefully) they also had FLCL, Ghost in the Shell, and Cowboy Bebop going but most of those are finishing up as well.
Well I mean, ZZ never made it to the states in any form iirc.
F91 is very good, though.
Unicorn is pretty, but otherwise just okay.
I watch way more mecha animethan is healthy.
yes this is me
I have a lot of investment in the UC universe and while sure the themes aren't too far from what's to be expected from Gundam, the writing is just really engaging and touch on some new things to help flesh out the world as it stands in the series' present as well as the past, like the first Spacenoid migration. For the most part the characters are nuanced and not like caricatures or rehashes of old archetypes. It's a love letter to the fans and a clarification on everything that UC Gundam is about and everything just feels fresh and exciting, in my opinion it's the best Gundam in decades.
To be quite honest, my favorite UC anything is 0083.
I just...do not like Banagher. I need to go back and rewatch what's been released of Unicorn back to back. Because as it stands, all the characters are super forgettable to me.
You wanna talk about Eureka seveN? Or Evangelion? RahXephon? Gun X Sword? Escaflowne? COME AT ME, BRO
I don't know if 0083 has really held up too well for me (all of the main characters are pretty unlikable) but I love the music and mech design. The Neue Ziel is one of my favorite robots.
How many episodes of Unicorn have you seen? He's gone through some interesting character development that I guess is pretty standard for a Gundam protagonist, but he comes across as being empathetic rather than whiny.
Eureka 7 I'm halfway through, Evangelion I think is historically important despite the hate it gets, RahXephon has been on my to-watch list for ages, Gun x Sword I'm not familiar with, I've heard good things about Escaflowne but have only seen about 2 episodes, though I have seen Dunbine and enjoyed it up until the ending.
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you were one of the early kings
your reign is so 2000 and late
Speed, Dich and I once had a Big O viewing party.
Speed and I were having a blast, but Dich would not stop making fun of it.
yeah, that was boss
Wait, no, best payoff is Sanji's wanted poster
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I don't think its ever done a flashback where I haven't wanted to tear up a bit
like the ideas explored in anime are usually faux-profound and can be taken as sophomoric tripe. hell, they don't ever take you into the mental depths of heidegger or some shit.
but they're delved into with such emotional extremity that they produce something in the viewer like trauma. does anybody else know what i'm gettin at
literally bawled my eyes out at robin's
just like
openly sobbing
that poor giant
the new movies are pretty awesome
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I've only seen the first, which I loved alone as a nice little reboot.
I know after that it veers dramatically away from the original series, but how's the second one?
fuck that show
ZZ is not very good overall. There's a good reason it didn't get localized. Same with After War Gundam X.
F91 is solid. I will defend it until my last breath. Victory is reaaaaaaaaaally great. It's very "kill everyone", but that lends it a sort of weight that makes people take it more seriously. Well, as seriously as one can take it for anime.
Turn A is really great, but holy fuck I hate the design on every level.
RE the Evangelion Rebuilds: HOLY SHIT YES THEY ARE AMAZING SPEND YOUR DOLLARS ON THEM RIGHT NOW
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god
damn
him
Actually, Big O's last season just ended its run on Adult Swim so they're actually restarting it (hopefully) they also had FLCL, Ghost in the Shell, and Cowboy Bebop going but most of those are finishing up as well.
dust with the worst taste
escaflowne
i hate that show
just the stupidest piece of shit that people love to fawn over because it's so deep
no its not
shut the fuck up
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Just...seriously? Get the fuck out.
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Sometimes that makes me real happy, other times I feel like I missed out
look man sometimes I really don't like things
big o was one of those things
beats me why some things suck, sure as hell ain't my scene
it's "deep" in so far as its a deconstruction of the mecha genre in general. the subject matter itself is not particularly deep
but I fucking cannot stand the main character his presence negates any positive values the show might otherwise have for me
ok well
my dad was a prick too
and i didn't have a giant robot
and i'm still less of a shitheap than shinji
so i guess what i'm saying is shinji can eat a long line of my shit
thundercats
superfriends
occasionally the powerpuff girls
I've heard that's true too
I am failing to see how that is a bad thing!
shoe this will be all anime
because ANIME
I said it.
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EVERYBODY WATCH LOVE EXPOSURE
I really don't think I want to watch anything Japanese with the word exposure in it.
I don't know if 0083 has really held up too well for me (all of the main characters are pretty unlikable) but I love the music and mech design. The Neue Ziel is one of my favorite robots.
How many episodes of Unicorn have you seen? He's gone through some interesting character development that I guess is pretty standard for a Gundam protagonist, but he comes across as being empathetic rather than whiny.
Eureka 7 I'm halfway through, Evangelion I think is historically important despite the hate it gets, RahXephon has been on my to-watch list for ages, Gun x Sword I'm not familiar with, I've heard good things about Escaflowne but have only seen about 2 episodes, though I have seen Dunbine and enjoyed it up until the ending.
I am goid with this decision
fridays brak and zorak are hosting a retro thing from 8-9 EST
kinda rad
you're fucking with me right
Yeah I'll admit, retrospectively I liked the series for all the wrong reasons as a teenager.
I just mostly enjoy the animation itself in End of Evangelion at least. And Rebuild, some of that stuff is beautiful.
yeah you ain't missin shit trust me
like man let me tell you
i would not have needed therapy if i had a giant robot
because hell i can work out my issues by grinding shit to dust beneath my giant heel
shinji just cries about it