Oh another note about PvP. The game has a multitude of "Channels" in it. Basically identical versions of each zone in order to allow people to choose less populated areas to quests in and to help avoid bottlenecking on named mobs. Because of this Channel 1 is your highest pop channel and most of the pvp action happens in there. It's hard to level a new character in channel 1, however it is also hard to gank someone without being ganged up on in channel 1.
It messes with GvG a bit too because what happens is large forces will arrive at a battle on one channel, then all swap over to catch the enemy unawares. It also forces your forces (heh) to scout out the enemy and to constantly update your army with information about their position and movements (A very cool thing btw)
*Edit* Oh I forgot to add there is character collision in this game. So if you set up big ass lancers int he front in a line, it is very difficult for the enemy to get through them into your ranged casters. Which leads to epic battles where both sides clash against eachother and struggle to push the other side back and break their line.
Delphinidaes on
NNID: delphinidaes Official PA Forums FFXIV:ARR Free Company <GHOST> gitl.enjin.com Join us on Sargatanas!
0
Options
Just_Bri_ThanksSeething with ragefrom a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPAregular
edited May 2012
I approve of shield lines!
How viable is it for a Zerker to join a shield line?
Just_Bri_Thanks on
...and when you are done with that; take a folding
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
So after failing to get a group in /area chat for a while, I took my chances in LFG for SM. First thing they say to me is "can mystics heal?"
Oi.
So the group goes on. Lancer can't hold aggro on anything, so the berserker and warrior proceed to facetank entire groups of mobs. Nobody moves out of bad glowing circles on the ground, ever. We have a couple deaths, but only one at a time. I try preparing for boss fights by dropping orbs that people gobble as soon as I put them down (my personal favorite is the lancer, who just eats ALL of the red orbs in succession).
After the second boss the lancer says "I have to leave" and proceeds to go offline (not dropping group, obviously). We go on with 4, and oddly enough it goes...better? It's like without the lancer people paid more attention to what they were doing. We down the final boss with zero issue, I get complimented on my healing, and I get a gold weapon and gold boots for my trouble. All told, not a bad morning in the end.
That said, still figuring out the whole healing thing. Not really sure when I should be dropping which orbs, when it's safe to run in to Titanic Wrath people, when I should be direct healing versus letting people grab orbs, etc. Pretty fun and hectic, though.
Red Orbs have a cleanse, so if people have purple health bars, drop em.
Don't run in and pewpew anyone. Stay out of range and just normal attack them. You just want to keep your threat level down. In dungeons healers are healers and aren't required to commit great amount of DPS. Though that big rock lookin pet thing that you Mystics get can be very useful.
So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
0
Options
Just_Bri_ThanksSeething with ragefrom a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPAregular
So in the lore I read, it says that Castanics don't get horns until puberty, but in a loading screen (the one that used to say that Castanic males never stayed at home) it shows the mother holding an infant with horns.
...and when you are done with that; take a folding
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Oh another note about PvP. The game has a multitude of "Channels" in it. Basically identical versions of each zone in order to allow people to choose less populated areas to quests in and to help avoid bottlenecking on named mobs. Because of this Channel 1 is your highest pop channel and most of the pvp action happens in there. It's hard to level a new character in channel 1, however it is also hard to gank someone without being ganged up on in channel 1.
It messes with GvG a bit too because what happens is large forces will arrive at a battle on one channel, then all swap over to catch the enemy unawares. It also forces your forces (heh) to scout out the enemy and to constantly update your army with information about their position and movements (A very cool thing btw)
*Edit* Oh I forgot to add there is character collision in this game. So if you set up big ass lancers int he front in a line, it is very difficult for the enemy to get through them into your ranged casters. Which leads to epic battles where both sides clash against eachother and struggle to push the other side back and break their line.
You and that damn pony are really making it hard for me to not blow all my money on this game. Though I just don't think I can justify buying something like this like 9 days before Diablo 3 comes out. After I've been over there for a while though, we shall see. If I end up back in any MMO before GW2 I think it will be this one.
0
Options
BeezelThere was no agreement little morsel..Registered Userregular
So after failing to get a group in /area chat for a while, I took my chances in LFG for SM. First thing they say to me is "can mystics heal?"
Oi.
So the group goes on. Lancer can't hold aggro on anything, so the berserker and warrior proceed to facetank entire groups of mobs. Nobody moves out of bad glowing circles on the ground, ever. We have a couple deaths, but only one at a time. I try preparing for boss fights by dropping orbs that people gobble as soon as I put them down (my personal favorite is the lancer, who just eats ALL of the red orbs in succession).
After the second boss the lancer says "I have to leave" and proceeds to go offline (not dropping group, obviously). We go on with 4, and oddly enough it goes...better? It's like without the lancer people paid more attention to what they were doing. We down the final boss with zero issue, I get complimented on my healing, and I get a gold weapon and gold boots for my trouble. All told, not a bad morning in the end.
That said, still figuring out the whole healing thing. Not really sure when I should be dropping which orbs, when it's safe to run in to Titanic Wrath people, when I should be direct healing versus letting people grab orbs, etc. Pretty fun and hectic, though.
I'll try to answer your last set of questions here.
You should never be not dropping balls if it's a fight you're not comfortable with. try to leave more mana orbs than health for the dps and it tends to make fights go that much quicker if they don't have to resort to autoattacking to regen mana. You probably noticed yourself having mana issues at points but you should be using mana infusion on cooldown anyway.
As for Titanic wrath, only do it if you feel safe doing it. I never do it in a pug except before the pull or if a boss gets knocked down. If you have spare glyph points at later levels you might want to take the radius extending and duration glyphs. But since this is a situational spell to begin with I wouldn't recommend it.
The thing I saw happening is people saw the summons and the poison dot and thought we were some kind of hybrid healer/dps. haha no. We are a support/healer hybrid. And the first question I ask when zoning into a pug instance is "Have you ever run with a mystic healer before?" If any of them answer no, take the time to explain what it is you do, how you heal and what's expected of them. Don't ever feel uncomfortable doing this. It helps every one in the long run. Explain that your lockon heal is mainly for the tank and large damage spikes, and that they are expected to help you out by stepping out of combat and grabbing a skittle.
Red Orbs have a cleanse, so if people have purple health bars, drop em.
Don't run in and pewpew anyone. Stay out of range and just normal attack them. You just want to keep your threat level down. In dungeons healers are healers and aren't required to commit great amount of DPS. Though that big rock lookin pet thing that you Mystics get can be very useful.
I'm aware of the mechanics, I really meant more of the subtleties and timing of things
Red Orbs have a cleanse, so if people have purple health bars, drop em.
Don't run in and pewpew anyone. Stay out of range and just normal attack them. You just want to keep your threat level down. In dungeons healers are healers and aren't required to commit great amount of DPS. Though that big rock lookin pet thing that you Mystics get can be very useful.
I'm aware of the mechanics, I really meant more of the subtleties and timing of things
Oh well, having never played a Mystic, I am not qualified to make those sorts of suggestions, but Beezel is and just did.
So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
so, zerkers, when fighting BAMs how the heck do you charge up powers when the mob is bouncing all over the place. (a'la the Boss in BoL??) i ran it for the first time last night and i fell like i spend half the fight running after him, or winding up, only to have him leap away
so, zerkers, when fighting BAMs how the heck do you charge up powers when the mob is bouncing all over the place. (a'la the Boss in BoL??) i ran it for the first time last night and i fell like i spend half the fight running after him, or winding up, only to have him leap away
Timing.
Learn to read the cues they give before they are going to move so you know not to charge up then.
So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
so, zerkers, when fighting BAMs how the heck do you charge up powers when the mob is bouncing all over the place. (a'la the Boss in BoL??) i ran it for the first time last night and i fell like i spend half the fight running after him, or winding up, only to have him leap away
This is why Berserker DPS can drop off later on. Eventually I believe you get a charge and at 60 you get an evasion skill that works while charging but even then, generally positioning and timing will be your number one issue. Knowing when mobs are going to start moving, and where they want to move to are crucial. If everything were a stationary fight, Zerkers would be #1 DPS in the game.
It's why they sometimes feel helpless in duels, but are like the Hulk in group PvP. When there's chaos and people are stunned or lose track of you, that's your chance to instagib someone.
So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
250g at lvl 44. If I sold my crap instead of using them to enchant I'd have alot more. But I figured by the time I get to lvl cap, gold from doing stuff will come alot faster anyway.
Reminder to those giving out the 7 day friend passes, due to rather weird design decisions:
-you cannot invite pass players into your party, they can only invite you into theirs
-they cannot add you as a friend, you have to add them (which then also adds you to their friends list)
There was an annoyed 30 minutes of trying to work around the inability to invite a friend of mine to a party before we tried it the other way around. Because it seemed like the wrong way to lock it.
Oh, and there's no trading for them in any shape or form, but that's to be expected.
Bought this because a friend wanted to MMO. My account says it expires in 1 day -- is that right? Did I mess up with adding the game and it didn't give me 30 days?
www.youtube.com/user/kaseius -- Let's Plays
0
Options
MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
Bought this because a friend wanted to MMO. My account says it expires in 1 day -- is that right? Did I mess up with adding the game and it didn't give me 30 days?
This is a fairly common issue they've been having
I'd try calling their support or waiting in livechat queue
Bought this because a friend wanted to MMO. My account says it expires in 1 day -- is that right? Did I mess up with adding the game and it didn't give me 30 days?
Don't worry about it unless it actually expires. It's like a temporary state your account gets put into before your 30 days begins.
Earlier tonight, I had one of the best MMO experiences I've ever had, ranking with the best of WoW's top fights and the open PvP from it and other games like L2. Only this was in lower level content, with an unorganized group of randoms.
I was in a full group doing BAM quests in the snowy region (whatever it's called) and a world boss dragon spawned, in between the sets of BAM Nagas and Hydralisks. If you haven't fought dragons in this game yet, they like to fly and shoot lots of fireballs and hop around. They're certainly not an AoE nightmare like the Hydras can be, but you cannot keep them in one place. Containing it was obviously our biggest challenge given the mobs around us, and we failed at it horribly.
Even without Vent/TS, everyone kept watch of where the BAMs were patrolling and typed to each other, and our tank tried their best to pull the dragon back and forth behind the passing pats. Despite their best efforts, we had a Naga spawn on top of us and there was no other choice but to kill 2 BAMs at once. The nice thing about mobs in this game is that they can actually do damage to each other. During the brief periods when we actually had control, we'd pull the 2 mobs near each other so their own attacks would damage the other. The two warriors were good with our dodges, but I honestly have no idea how our lancer managed to hold blocks against both of them at the same time. One, two, three Nagas total had to be killed this way, and still everyone was up and the damage controlled.
Unfortunately, world spawns have a ridiculous amount of hp and after 5-10 minutes, it was still at only 75%. Alas, we didn't manage to kill it because we accidentally leashed it several times while trying to find a new position, but I have to say that the dancing between pats and killing multiple BAMs at once was one of the most exhilarating moments I've had in an MMO. And this is coming from a former US Horde #1 raider. I just love that so many mobs in this game actually have a solid and unique AI, and that you can dance around them untouched with enough practice.
Forget MMOs, I think TERA has some of the best combat of any action game, period.
Made it to lvl 7 tonight and hopped into a pretty sweet noob guild on the PVP server. Gonna shoot for mount and low level pvp content tomorrow. So far I have only rolled a Lancer but I'm really digging the combat and the game thus far. Feels like such a breath of fresh air breaking out of the EQ clone way of punching people.
0
Options
KlykaDO you have anySPARE BATTERIES?Registered Userregular
I am enjoying the game, but the Island of Dawn is one of the most boring newbie areas I've ever been in. Kill 5 of these, now 5 of these, now 5 of the same ones as before with a different model.
But once you get to Velika, yeah, that's a lot better.
SC2 EU ID Klyka.110
0
Options
BeezelThere was no agreement little morsel..Registered Userregular
So, message for the folks in the guild and those who may be lurking before this gets too out of hand.
I'm not going to mention names just yet, A couple of you know already, but a name keeps popping up on my radar about being less than pleasant to interact with in-game and kind of a dick in general so I'm going to put it out there and say to this person "Knock it off." I've already warned against this once. If you have a problem to that degree with your guild members particularly their complaints, then you probably need to remove yourself from the guild. Barring that, if this sort of behavior continues I'm going to have to expedite your removal. Unprovoked nastiness to your fellow Nice Guy isn't going to be tolerated on any level.
Posts
It messes with GvG a bit too because what happens is large forces will arrive at a battle on one channel, then all swap over to catch the enemy unawares. It also forces your forces (heh) to scout out the enemy and to constantly update your army with information about their position and movements (A very cool thing btw)
*Edit* Oh I forgot to add there is character collision in this game. So if you set up big ass lancers int he front in a line, it is very difficult for the enemy to get through them into your ranged casters. Which leads to epic battles where both sides clash against eachother and struggle to push the other side back and break their line.
Official PA Forums FFXIV:ARR Free Company <GHOST> gitl.enjin.com Join us on Sargatanas!
How viable is it for a Zerker to join a shield line?
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
They can but typically the Block amount on an axe is much lower than an equivalent Lance.
in GVG Zerkers typically are the second line protect people from charging the line and taking out the healers.
Official PA Forums FFXIV:ARR Free Company <GHOST> gitl.enjin.com Join us on Sargatanas!
Oi.
So the group goes on. Lancer can't hold aggro on anything, so the berserker and warrior proceed to facetank entire groups of mobs. Nobody moves out of bad glowing circles on the ground, ever. We have a couple deaths, but only one at a time. I try preparing for boss fights by dropping orbs that people gobble as soon as I put them down (my personal favorite is the lancer, who just eats ALL of the red orbs in succession).
After the second boss the lancer says "I have to leave" and proceeds to go offline (not dropping group, obviously). We go on with 4, and oddly enough it goes...better? It's like without the lancer people paid more attention to what they were doing. We down the final boss with zero issue, I get complimented on my healing, and I get a gold weapon and gold boots for my trouble. All told, not a bad morning in the end.
That said, still figuring out the whole healing thing. Not really sure when I should be dropping which orbs, when it's safe to run in to Titanic Wrath people, when I should be direct healing versus letting people grab orbs, etc. Pretty fun and hectic, though.
Don't run in and pewpew anyone. Stay out of range and just normal attack them. You just want to keep your threat level down. In dungeons healers are healers and aren't required to commit great amount of DPS. Though that big rock lookin pet thing that you Mystics get can be very useful.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
You and that damn pony are really making it hard for me to not blow all my money on this game. Though I just don't think I can justify buying something like this like 9 days before Diablo 3 comes out. After I've been over there for a while though, we shall see. If I end up back in any MMO before GW2 I think it will be this one.
I'll try to answer your last set of questions here.
You should never be not dropping balls if it's a fight you're not comfortable with. try to leave more mana orbs than health for the dps and it tends to make fights go that much quicker if they don't have to resort to autoattacking to regen mana. You probably noticed yourself having mana issues at points but you should be using mana infusion on cooldown anyway.
As for Titanic wrath, only do it if you feel safe doing it. I never do it in a pug except before the pull or if a boss gets knocked down. If you have spare glyph points at later levels you might want to take the radius extending and duration glyphs. But since this is a situational spell to begin with I wouldn't recommend it.
The thing I saw happening is people saw the summons and the poison dot and thought we were some kind of hybrid healer/dps. haha no. We are a support/healer hybrid. And the first question I ask when zoning into a pug instance is "Have you ever run with a mystic healer before?" If any of them answer no, take the time to explain what it is you do, how you heal and what's expected of them. Don't ever feel uncomfortable doing this. It helps every one in the long run. Explain that your lockon heal is mainly for the tank and large damage spikes, and that they are expected to help you out by stepping out of combat and grabbing a skittle.
"...only mights and maybes."
I'm aware of the mechanics, I really meant more of the subtleties and timing of things
Oh well, having never played a Mystic, I am not qualified to make those sorts of suggestions, but Beezel is and just did.
I guess this is a good excuse to finally upgrade everything.
I will work on leveling that one up and off of the Island of Dawn tonight when I get home.
I'm dead serious."
gamertag:Maguano71
Switch:SW-8428-8279-1687
Timing.
Learn to read the cues they give before they are going to move so you know not to charge up then.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
This is why Berserker DPS can drop off later on. Eventually I believe you get a charge and at 60 you get an evasion skill that works while charging but even then, generally positioning and timing will be your number one issue. Knowing when mobs are going to start moving, and where they want to move to are crucial. If everything were a stationary fight, Zerkers would be #1 DPS in the game.
It's why they sometimes feel helpless in duels, but are like the Hulk in group PvP. When there's chaos and people are stunned or lose track of you, that's your chance to instagib someone.
I am at 200g at lvl 40.
15g at 43. i'm a spendthrift tho, i respec a lot just to try things out
I go into Flamestop to preorder Diablo 3.
I walk out with this.
FML. Installing.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
-you cannot invite pass players into your party, they can only invite you into theirs
-they cannot add you as a friend, you have to add them (which then also adds you to their friends list)
There was an annoyed 30 minutes of trying to work around the inability to invite a friend of mine to a party before we tried it the other way around. Because it seemed like the wrong way to lock it.
Oh, and there's no trading for them in any shape or form, but that's to be expected.
This is a fairly common issue they've been having
I'd try calling their support or waiting in livechat queue
Don't worry about it unless it actually expires. It's like a temporary state your account gets put into before your 30 days begins.
tera.gif
tumblr | instagram | twitter | steam
Steam: YOU FACE JARAXXUS| Twitch.tv: CainLoveless
word
fixed it
tumblr | instagram | twitter | steam
I was in a full group doing BAM quests in the snowy region (whatever it's called) and a world boss dragon spawned, in between the sets of BAM Nagas and Hydralisks. If you haven't fought dragons in this game yet, they like to fly and shoot lots of fireballs and hop around. They're certainly not an AoE nightmare like the Hydras can be, but you cannot keep them in one place. Containing it was obviously our biggest challenge given the mobs around us, and we failed at it horribly.
Even without Vent/TS, everyone kept watch of where the BAMs were patrolling and typed to each other, and our tank tried their best to pull the dragon back and forth behind the passing pats. Despite their best efforts, we had a Naga spawn on top of us and there was no other choice but to kill 2 BAMs at once. The nice thing about mobs in this game is that they can actually do damage to each other. During the brief periods when we actually had control, we'd pull the 2 mobs near each other so their own attacks would damage the other. The two warriors were good with our dodges, but I honestly have no idea how our lancer managed to hold blocks against both of them at the same time. One, two, three Nagas total had to be killed this way, and still everyone was up and the damage controlled.
Unfortunately, world spawns have a ridiculous amount of hp and after 5-10 minutes, it was still at only 75%. Alas, we didn't manage to kill it because we accidentally leashed it several times while trying to find a new position, but I have to say that the dancing between pats and killing multiple BAMs at once was one of the most exhilarating moments I've had in an MMO. And this is coming from a former US Horde #1 raider. I just love that so many mobs in this game actually have a solid and unique AI, and that you can dance around them untouched with enough practice.
Forget MMOs, I think TERA has some of the best combat of any action game, period.
But once you get to Velika, yeah, that's a lot better.
I'm not going to mention names just yet, A couple of you know already, but a name keeps popping up on my radar about being less than pleasant to interact with in-game and kind of a dick in general so I'm going to put it out there and say to this person "Knock it off." I've already warned against this once. If you have a problem to that degree with your guild members particularly their complaints, then you probably need to remove yourself from the guild. Barring that, if this sort of behavior continues I'm going to have to expedite your removal. Unprovoked nastiness to your fellow Nice Guy isn't going to be tolerated on any level.
Back to your regularly scheduled thread.
"...only mights and maybes."