I know we already had an undead themed thread, but I have something I was wondering
Do zombies die out when they run out of human flesh to consume? Will a planet conquered by zombie hordes eventually return to normal or forever remain a graveyard of horror?
Is there a difference between a zombie you might find shambling about in an ancient dungeon and the kind produced en masse by a zombie plague?
I know we already had an undead themed thread, but I have something I was wondering
Do zombies die out when they run out of human flesh to consume? Will a planet conquered by zombie hordes eventually return to normal or forever remain a graveyard of horror?
Is there a difference between a zombie you might find shambling about in an ancient dungeon and the kind produced en masse by a zombie plague?
Love, Concerned Paladin
I've not yet passed my MRE certification exams but I think I can help here. In the absenbce of suitable foodstuffs zombies (and indeed most of the ravenous undead) enter a dormant state, a sort of "low power mode" to use a more modern comparison. In this state they are all but indistinguishable from an actual corpse, except that unlike a corpse, a zombie's rate of decay will slow over time. It is believed that the consumption of flesh and the rate of decay of a zombie are linked - a well-fed zombie will decay steadily, ironically hasting it's eventual demise, whereas a starved zombie will cease to decay when it goes dormant, as though the flesh of the living what fuels the decomposition. While this may seem counterintuitive, it actually serves to control the overall zombie population. The increased decay balances the increased numbers of undead created as part of the feeding process - even in undeath nature finds a balance.
There is a theory, though purely speculative, that the zombie desire for flesh comes not from hunger, but from an instinctive longing for release from existence. This is why the even though the "mindless" undead can often show animalistic cunning, they still heedlessly hurl themselves into danger in pursuit of prey - win or lose, they're that much closer to restful oblivion. As I said though, this is just a theory - there's no such thing as a zombie psychologist (or at least not a credible one), and whatever passes for brain activity in a zombie's head is alien enough that no known telepath has been able to detect it, let alone understand it.
@Melding Forgive me if I've overstepped my bounds on this, Director. I'm actually working on my Masters in Post-Anthropology, and the ecology of unliving organisms in remote/isolated communities is actually the subject of my thesis.
look there's only one way to handle the whole three wishes thing
1. wish to be the genie's best friend
2. immortality
3. a good pizza to share with the genie because fuck you I'm immortal I got everything I want already
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Well, yes. Sick humans are still subject to the same basic needs as healthy ones. This also applies to the zombies of Hatian Vodou, which (at least in recorded cases) are afflicted/ensorceled/poisoned humans, and not actually undead, though their bodily functions are often slowed to the point of seeming dead, which also slows their metabolism and need for sustenance.
I dunno man, trying to force a genie to like you seems to be asking for it. I mean, where are the stipulations that a genie totally has to do whatever you wish for? Maybe they're just professionals who have to put up with a lot of shit in their day to day and then one asshole comes along and tries to manipulate your emotions and you've just fucking had it up to here
look I have to imagine that with the kind of shit a genie has to deal with having a wish-user discard two of their wishes just for the genie's well-being would be pretty nice!
they just hang out in lamps all the time and you just know that nine out of every ten wishes are fucking creepy and nobody ever thinks about them
Melding, say your dealing with a Genie or a Djin, will using super specific wishes help you at all? I know you have to use your third wish to wish them back to imprisionment, but could you say "I want to have my intelligenance and amount of knowledge raised beyond anyone else on the planet without my brain getting larger" instead of "I want to be the smartest person" and have it not backfire?
My dealings with a genie are often at the other end of a rifle. They come from the same realm of demons and are treated as such. malevolent and cruel as all other demons, trying to barter better wishes out of them with clever word play isn't necessarily the best idea. Simply put, they're smarter then you and aren't above cheating to fuck you over. If they're already imprisoned in a lamp or some such, then they already hate all of humanity.
All of them. Depending on the gold dragon's level. It's already one of the strongest none epic level monsters in existence, making it largely unkillable just increases its killing power.
Melding, does your association handle jötnar troubles, or are they too much like gods?
To the best of my knowledge they are were most earth bound giants originate to some degree. If their extra dimensional origins are true, taking it down like a large demon isn't out of the question, however we've never encountered such a being so we can not be sure.
I know we already had an undead themed thread, but I have something I was wondering
Do zombies die out when they run out of human flesh to consume? Will a planet conquered by zombie hordes eventually return to normal or forever remain a graveyard of horror?
Is there a difference between a zombie you might find shambling about in an ancient dungeon and the kind produced en masse by a zombie plague?
Love, Concerned Paladin
It depends on the type of zombie. a truly undead zombie has no need to eat, and only does so if ordered. Even ones spread by necromatic plague don't actually desire flesh, but instead to simply spread the disease. However, these never reach the scale of what is seen in zombie movies. they're far more controlled then that, as if their numbers grow to great the power controlling them might lose control and be attacked himself. though undead wizards and liches might be indifferent to this result.
Radiation made zombies, as previously explained go into a rest state when they can not find flesh to consume. they will act out other base and highly ingrained actions, such as driving a car, travelling to a location, an so on, well before, but once they have done that and grow weak then enter sleep mode waiting for something to awaken them. These zombies decay very slowly normally, and oddly the resting ones, slower still. so if you see a corpse in a car, do not approach.
Other disease victims that act like zombies usually die with in a week of no food.
I think I would try to bargain two, un fucked with wishes, by promising to use the third to give the genie his freedom.
The problem is that some genies, I think mostly Djin, are straight up assholes and evil. Freeing them would be like the movie Wishmaster but with no way to stop it.
TrippyJingMoses supposes his toeses are roses.But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered Userregular
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Depends on the kind of immortality, I guess. If your body could be destroyed, but you can live on as an incorporeal being that can take bodies and create new ones for itself? I think I could go for that.
‘I just read – yesterday in fact – the story ‘Superman’s New Power’ which appeared in Superman #125 from November 1958. And guess what Superman’s new power was in the ‘conservative’ ’50s. That’s right – it’s a teeny-tiny little Superman who shoots out from the palm of the big Superman’s hand and does everything better than Superman himself, leaving the full-size Superman feeling redundant and worthless. Holy analysis, Batman! It’s mindbending, brilliant and eerie work. This is what it would be like if Charlie Kaufmann wrote and directed the Superman movie and it’s far from goofy or childish, it’s genuinely affecting and slightly disturbing to read Superman saying stuff like ‘Everyone’s impressed except ME! Don’t they understand how I feel — playing second fiddle to a miniature duplicate of myself…a sort of SUPER-IMP?’ And people think I’M weird? I %$%$^ wish I was weird like this! I wish pop comics today had the balls to be as poetic and poignant and truly ‘all-ages’ again, and a little less self-conscious. I feel a little ashamed for not even daring to think of a magnificent tiny Superman who makes the real Superman feel inadequate every time he springs from his hand.’
immortality kinda sucks man. what if you got trapped in a cave in? you'd wish for death and go insane. what if your head gets cut off? you're alive but as a decapitated head. as the species evolves, you become a genetic throw back. wiped out by killer robots? everyone but you, you'd probably be encased in cement and thrown into space.
immortality kinda sucks man. what if you got trapped in a cave in? you'd wish for death and go insane. what if your head gets cut off? you're alive but as a decapitated head. as the species evolves, you become a genetic throw back. wiped out by killer robots? everyone but you, you'd probably be encased in cement and thrown into space.
Yeah, Trippy's version of immortality is probably the best. Especially if your ghost self was capable of faster than light space travel.
It would kinda suck to live for 500 years just to become that old racist republican guy that no one wants to be around (uncle phil).
immortality kinda sucks man. what if you got trapped in a cave in? you'd wish for death and go insane. what if your head gets cut off? you're alive but as a decapitated head. as the species evolves, you become a genetic throw back. wiped out by killer robots? everyone but you, you'd probably be encased in cement and thrown into space.
Yeah, Trippy's version of immortality is probably the best. Especially if your ghost self was capable of faster than light space travel.
That's a form of undeath, undeath is not true immortality. I have stopped such creatures from existing, they are now trapped in a plane of eternal torment.
How does eternal torment work? Does it start with mild torment and dial it up over the years? Because I imagine a fixed amount of torment you would eventually get used to.
I go back and forth on the immortality thing in my head but at the end of the day if someone came up to me and said "Do you want to live forever?" I'd probably say "Yeah man, hook me up."
look there's only one way to handle the whole three wishes thing
1. wish to be the genie's best friend
2. immortality
3. a good pizza to share with the genie because fuck you I'm immortal I got everything I want already
Man immortality is lame.
1. I would wish for a pocket dimension built to my specifications. It would be about the size of the moon and would basically be a gigantic mansion resort I could enter from anywhere. People don't age while inside and when you leave only a second has passed in the real world.
Wish two. For every instance of my needing cash I will always have the exact amount nessecary in my wallet. The wallet is unable to be stolen and will always be in my pocket.
Wish three- I'd like to be in a state of perfect health relative to my age forever.
This is how you do wishes.
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TrippyJingMoses supposes his toeses are roses.But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered Userregular
I notice you didn't specify how you were going to leave your pocket dimension.
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are you like the the vanguard of the buttlord's jokes defense force or something
because that is going to be a low and lonely destiny homie
I know we already had an undead themed thread, but I have something I was wondering
Do zombies die out when they run out of human flesh to consume? Will a planet conquered by zombie hordes eventually return to normal or forever remain a graveyard of horror?
Is there a difference between a zombie you might find shambling about in an ancient dungeon and the kind produced en masse by a zombie plague?
Love, Concerned Paladin
you can instead wish for one of these
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/candle-of-invocation
I've not yet passed my MRE certification exams but I think I can help here. In the absenbce of suitable foodstuffs zombies (and indeed most of the ravenous undead) enter a dormant state, a sort of "low power mode" to use a more modern comparison. In this state they are all but indistinguishable from an actual corpse, except that unlike a corpse, a zombie's rate of decay will slow over time. It is believed that the consumption of flesh and the rate of decay of a zombie are linked - a well-fed zombie will decay steadily, ironically hasting it's eventual demise, whereas a starved zombie will cease to decay when it goes dormant, as though the flesh of the living what fuels the decomposition. While this may seem counterintuitive, it actually serves to control the overall zombie population. The increased decay balances the increased numbers of undead created as part of the feeding process - even in undeath nature finds a balance.
There is a theory, though purely speculative, that the zombie desire for flesh comes not from hunger, but from an instinctive longing for release from existence. This is why the even though the "mindless" undead can often show animalistic cunning, they still heedlessly hurl themselves into danger in pursuit of prey - win or lose, they're that much closer to restful oblivion. As I said though, this is just a theory - there's no such thing as a zombie psychologist (or at least not a credible one), and whatever passes for brain activity in a zombie's head is alien enough that no known telepath has been able to detect it, let alone understand it.
@Melding Forgive me if I've overstepped my bounds on this, Director. I'm actually working on my Masters in Post-Anthropology, and the ecology of unliving organisms in remote/isolated communities is actually the subject of my thesis.
1. wish to be the genie's best friend
2. immortality
3. a good pizza to share with the genie because fuck you I'm immortal I got everything I want already
they just hang out in lamps all the time and you just know that nine out of every ten wishes are fucking creepy and nobody ever thinks about them
With the wooper avatar this becomes immensely funny.
My dealings with a genie are often at the other end of a rifle. They come from the same realm of demons and are treated as such. malevolent and cruel as all other demons, trying to barter better wishes out of them with clever word play isn't necessarily the best idea. Simply put, they're smarter then you and aren't above cheating to fuck you over. If they're already imprisoned in a lamp or some such, then they already hate all of humanity.
All of them. Depending on the gold dragon's level. It's already one of the strongest none epic level monsters in existence, making it largely unkillable just increases its killing power.
Also all of them. Darling, he's be right on Broadway!
Not my area of expertise, but no, maybe when i's a full moon or they're morphing into a werewolf. normal situation, nah.
When the real monster seems to be man we had it over to local authorities. We're a research and destroy institute. not vigilantes.
To the best of my knowledge they are were most earth bound giants originate to some degree. If their extra dimensional origins are true, taking it down like a large demon isn't out of the question, however we've never encountered such a being so we can not be sure.
It depends on the type of zombie. a truly undead zombie has no need to eat, and only does so if ordered. Even ones spread by necromatic plague don't actually desire flesh, but instead to simply spread the disease. However, these never reach the scale of what is seen in zombie movies. they're far more controlled then that, as if their numbers grow to great the power controlling them might lose control and be attacked himself. though undead wizards and liches might be indifferent to this result.
Radiation made zombies, as previously explained go into a rest state when they can not find flesh to consume. they will act out other base and highly ingrained actions, such as driving a car, travelling to a location, an so on, well before, but once they have done that and grow weak then enter sleep mode waiting for something to awaken them. These zombies decay very slowly normally, and oddly the resting ones, slower still. so if you see a corpse in a car, do not approach.
Other disease victims that act like zombies usually die with in a week of no food.
is this Genndy Tartakovsky movie in any way accurate?
Yours,
Terrified in Transylvania
Well, it's accurate in so much as a dracula once constructed a castle far away from humans to rally all former human monsters to one location.
It is not accurate in that in the movie it is still standing and not shelled into oblivion.
The problem is that some genies, I think mostly Djin, are straight up assholes and evil. Freeing them would be like the movie Wishmaster but with no way to stop it.
better than ceasing to exist
also
stars die
I'd have time
I'll laugh last
also maybe develop superpowers! You never know...
dying kind of sucks
Yeah, Trippy's version of immortality is probably the best. Especially if your ghost self was capable of faster than light space travel.
It would kinda suck to live for 500 years just to become that old racist republican guy that no one wants to be around (uncle phil).
That's a form of undeath, undeath is not true immortality. I have stopped such creatures from existing, they are now trapped in a plane of eternal torment.
pretty much
oh no boo hoo things might get real shitty for a long time
you know what's worse than things being real shitty?
being fucking dead
There's worse things
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Man immortality is lame.
1. I would wish for a pocket dimension built to my specifications. It would be about the size of the moon and would basically be a gigantic mansion resort I could enter from anywhere. People don't age while inside and when you leave only a second has passed in the real world.
Wish two. For every instance of my needing cash I will always have the exact amount nessecary in my wallet. The wallet is unable to be stolen and will always be in my pocket.
Wish three- I'd like to be in a state of perfect health relative to my age forever.
This is how you do wishes.