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[PATV] Monday, November 5, 2012 - CheckPoint Season 2, Ep. 27: The Price of Progress
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Square Enix is listening, and realizes it has to hide its shenanigans better.
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Thanks for showing that Grim Fandango clip, thereby raising our hopes, and THEN making the joke that it will be ignored again.
Watch your back. Watch. Your. Back.
Disclaimer: The above statement is entirely a humorous jab, and not in any way meant to indicate that you should be watching for snipers whereever you go the next couple of days.
I'll let you know which words I've decided will force me to destroy you, and there are some things I don't want you drawing any more too, or else.
:Edit: Just a glitch, no ragepoop subliminal. Odd feeling of relief and disappointment.
I definitely plan to incorporate "ragepooing" into my daily vocabulary.
Funny how you can rampage through Churches, Buddhist temples, or any other religious symbol and nobody gives a flying fuck.
Why are you wasting time giving into these twats? Fuck them. If they have a problem with it then I wouldn't want those assholes playing with us anyway.
You have made my day. That is all.
Well, it's probably not the publisher's fault, anyways. They might even have a policy in place about this already. All it really takes is one artist accidentally forgetting about a piece of placeholder art and this kind of stuff slips in. It's entirely possible that the artist's intention was to redo the asset with something less controversial.
Or it's possible that no one realized there was a problem in the first place. Arabic letter-art can be hard to distinguish from artistic patterns, such as the example from 2:26, a picture frame which I certainly never would have recognized as text.
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YOU CAN DO BETTER THEN THAT!!!
Do they offer to buy back the wings they just sold you for a tenth of what you paid?
To be clear, I don't think developers should be caving to demands to remove whole levels or whatever. I agree with you that it's stupid.
But! There is a big difference between using religious imagery or iconography because you're trying to say something, or you're trying to make a point, and using it because you were too lazy to check what the text meant and just needed a "middle eastern looking" texture. Regardless of what the devs do after the fact, it shouldn't be there in the first place.
Japanese games use Christian imagery all the time, and that's fine. But there's a difference between Richter in Castlevania using a cross to attack, and a character wearing a t-shirt that says "Jesus Sucks" just because they needed some English text.
@apollyonbob: I like your sly assertion that because we're Canadian, we want to cave every time a religious extremist gets angry. That's cute.
And I get what you're saying - laziness certainly doesn't need to be defended.
But two points. First, though we didn't get a clear look at it from your video, this new texture looked far more purposeful than the CoD one. It didn't look like the writing was accidental, as it looked like it based on something. It's difficult to tell the difference, to me, between artist laziness and artist purpose. And it makes little difference because second, having to constantly cave to the perpetually aggrieved gets fucking old, you know? Regardless of the reason.
I'm not saying that game devs should be fighting this fight, far from it. Like Comedy Central, I understand WHY they're doing what they're doing. But like BloodMuffin down there, no, I DON'T think the ... the media? Comedians? Videocasters? I guess _people_ ... Anyway I do'nt think they should be telling devs "Bad! Wrong!" while nary a mention goes by that this is an absolutely ridiculous response to an extremely minor thing.
Also, yes, I understand that there are many Japanese games that use western Christian imagery on purpose, but come on man, a lot of Japanese game devs toss around "angel" or "god" like it's got zero meaning, because to them, it has none :P They're not trying to make some point about Christianity, they're just ripping off the imagery. Nobody demands the games not be sold.
Anyway I still stand behind my general point. I don't think the devs should be blamed first. The more I think about it, I don't think they should be blamed at all. But definitely not first.
And like Graham said - a symbol used in art for a purpose, art to communicate a point, that's one thing. A symbol that is used in a lazy and apathetic fashion is entirely different.