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Well um damn Elmo that's not cool

King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/voice-elmo-actor-accused-sex-teen-denies-charges-article-1.1200566
It's not a sunny day on "Sesame Street," as the show revealed Monday that the puppeteer behind Elmo has been accused of having a sexual relationship with an underage boy.


"In June of this year, Sesame Workshop received a communication from a then 23-year-old man who alleged that he had a relationship beginning when he was 16 years old with Kevin Clash," reps for the show said in a statement.

Clash, 52, who has been Elmo's Muppeteer since 1984, adamantly maintains the accusation is false, but the show was forced to investigate.

Says Clash, according to TMZ, "I had a relationship with [the accuser]. It was between two consenting adults and I am deeply saddened that he is trying to make it into something it was not."

"We took the allegation very seriously and took immediate action," Sesame Workshop said in the statement. "We met with the accuser twice and had repeated communications with him. We met with Kevin, who denied the accusation. We also conducted a thorough investigation and found the allegation of underage conduct to be unsubstantiated."

While the show's probe was unable to find proof that Clash had engaged in a relationship with the accuser while he was a minor, it did find evidence that the man behind one of the most beloved children's television characters had engaged in inappropriate behavior against company standards.

"Although this was a personal relationship unrelated to the workplace, our investigation did reveal that Kevin exercised poor judgment and violated company policy regarding internet usage and he was disciplined," Sesame Workshop said.

In light of the incident, Clash will be moving away from Sesame Street for the foreseeable future.

"Kevin insists that the allegation of underage conduct is false and defamatory and he is taking actions to protect his reputation," the Workshop noted. "We have granted him a leave of absence to do so."

So long story short the puppeteer behind Elmo and the man in charge of Sesame street did some questionable if not completely illegal things and is probably going to be fired.

This sorta rocks my world.

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  • The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    I was super upset when I found out about this. I sincerely, sincerely hope that the underage thing is false. Everything else is basically his business

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    Elmo nooooooooooooooo

  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    God damn it.

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    The underage thing is stupid. 16 is a far cry from 5.

  • FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    mrt144 wrote: »
    The underage thing is stupid. 16 is a far cry from 5.

    16 is still a child

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  • FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    and as a 23y/o man the idea of being with a 16 year old is fucking disgusting

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    mrt144 wrote: »
    The underage thing is stupid. 16 is a far cry from 5.

    Still illegal. And it isn't like he was some 19 year old dating a 16 year old.

    Either way, withholding judgement until more facts and evidence surface. Accusation is not conviction.

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    mrt144 wrote: »
    The underage thing is stupid. 16 is a far cry from 5.

    I was wondering if someone was going to say some murderously stupid shit on the first page, attaboy

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    He also voiced the baby in Dinosaurs

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    On a scale of 1 - 10, how much of a monster does it make me if I'm glad Mr Rogers died before anyone could accuse him of this kind of shit?

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Well... Grover was always superior anyways

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    I'm willing to believe they knew each other when the accuser was sixteen apparently Clash had a mentor program where he'd bring in kids and show them how to make puppets and perform.

    Past that I guess I'll wait and see if the police get involved. The internet thing bothers me. That basically implies to me he was looking at porn in an environment where a couple dozen six year olds are around everyday that's not okay with me.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    uuuuuuuugh

  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    but was he hot when he did it though?? or does that only work when its a woman

    mrt i just need to know!

  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    I'm willing to believe they knew each other when the accuser was sixteen apparently Clash had a mentor program where he'd bring in kids and show them how to make puppets and perform.

    Past that I guess I'll wait and see if thenpolice.get involved. The internet thing bothers me. That basically implies to me he was looking at porn in an environment where a couple dozen six year olds are around everyday that's not okay with me.

    probably he just emailed sexily

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    and as a 23y/o man the idea of being with a 16 year old is fucking disgusting

    well, this guy was 45 at the time so, you can feel comfortable with that knowledge I guess

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    That's it. There is no good in the world anymore.

  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I'm willing to believe they knew each other when the accuser was sixteen apparently Clash had a mentor program where he'd bring in kids and show them how to make puppets and perform.

    Past that I guess I'll wait and see if the police get involved. The internet thing bothers me. That basically implies to me he was looking at porn in an environment where a couple dozen six year olds are around everyday that's not okay with me.

    it doesn't imply that at all

    it implies that he broke company policy, which could be anything

    don't jump to conclusions, base your decisions on evidence

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    That's it. There is no good in the world anymore.
    give me a fucking break, princess

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  • RetabaRetaba A Cultist Registered User regular
    I'm willing to believe they knew each other when the accuser was sixteen apparently Clash had a mentor program where he'd bring in kids and show them how to make puppets and perform.

    Past that I guess I'll wait and see if the police get involved. The internet thing bothers me. That basically implies to me he was looking at porn in an environment where a couple dozen six year olds are around everyday that's not okay with me.

    Hmm, my first thought on the internet thing was that he and the accuser had sent messages to one another with certain topics you wouldn't want noticed on your work computer. It doesn't mention anything about porn but it probably wouldn't.

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    I'm willing to believe they knew each other when the accuser was sixteen apparently Clash had a mentor program where he'd bring in kids and show them how to make puppets and perform.

    Past that I guess I'll wait and see if the police get involved. The internet thing bothers me. That basically implies to me he was looking at porn in an environment where a couple dozen six year olds are around everyday that's not okay with me.

    it doesn't imply that at all

    it implies that he broke company policy, which could be anything

    don't jump to conclusions, base your decisions on evidence

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    That's it. There is no good in the world anymore.
    give me a fucking break, princess

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  • GSMGSM Registered User regular
    This is going to become the loudest "NOT MY TAX DOLLARS" PBS funding thing in a matter of hours. ROMNEY WAS RIGHT, etc.

    We'll get back there someday.
  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    This explains why Elmo wasn't staring at Katy Perry's chest during that whole bit.

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Yeah, it's unfortunate that this is a story, but no one should be extrapolating anything until we get more info.

  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    mrt144 wrote: »
    The underage thing is stupid. 16 is a far cry from 5.

    I was wondering if someone was going to say some murderously stupid shit on the first page, attaboy

    Come at me bro?

  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    There's something gratifying about doing a quick search for #elmo on twitter and the vast majority of results are about people saying they're withholding judgement until more evidence surfaces.

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    I'm shocked simply because if someone said "gay" and "Sesame Street", I would have guessed Bert and Ernie way before Elmo.

  • ShenShen Registered User regular
    On a scale of 1 - 10, how much of a monster does it make me if I'm glad Mr Rogers died before anyone could accuse him of this kind of shit?

    Judging by the shit going down in the UK atm as well as past cases, child abuse stories are actually way more likely to pop up once the adult is dead, as the victim no longer needs to fear them.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Also, CNN says even the accuser has not used the term "sexual" in any of his allegations.

  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Shen wrote: »
    On a scale of 1 - 10, how much of a monster does it make me if I'm glad Mr Rogers died before anyone could accuse him of this kind of shit?

    Judging by the shit going down in the UK atm as well as past cases, child abuse stories are actually way more likely to pop up once the adult is dead, as the victim no longer needs to fear them.

    All I mean is that I'm glad he didn't have to live through someone accusing him of shit like this, and if he had done something wrong to someone it is likely that they would have come forward by now.

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    but was he hot when he did it though?? or does that only work when its a woman

    mrt i just need to know!

    I feel that the age of consent shouldn't be 18. And I say that because it's completely arbitrary and leads to knee jerk reactions and outrage about the illegality of it. Is it kinda gross? Sure, but lots of relationships are gross. This just doesn't bother me in the slightest like Sandusky does.

    Illegal things being illegal isn't something that rustles my jimmies.

  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    im just kind of confused because i thought when it came to child abuse the police would be involved as soon as the accusation was made, whether the person formally pressed charges or not?

    either way i hope that it isnt true, or that if it IS true people wont flock to defend clash because '16 isnt 5'

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Shen wrote: »
    On a scale of 1 - 10, how much of a monster does it make me if I'm glad Mr Rogers died before anyone could accuse him of this kind of shit?

    Judging by the shit going down in the UK atm as well as past cases, child abuse stories are actually way more likely to pop up once the adult is dead, as the victim no longer needs to fear them.

    alternatively, the accused doesn't have much of an ability to defend themself

  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I don't know if this is the right thread to be arguing "Hey, if there's grass on the field..."

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  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    top mathematicians agree

    16 is indeed not 5

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    im just kind of confused because i thought when it came to child abuse the police would be involved as soon as the accusation was made, whether the person formally pressed charges or not?

    either way i hope that it isnt true, or that if it IS true people wont flock to defend clash because '16 isnt 5'

    teenagers want to have sex. There is nothing that 2 years as a teenager can do to better inform a 18 year old vs. a 16 year old.

  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    awwww here it g
    I don't know if this is the right thread to be arguing "Hey, if there's grass on the field..."

    okay dad

  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    Note that Shen is referring to the Jimmy Savile crisis going down on the BBC and that it is not at all comparable to what is happening here.

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    mrt144 wrote: »
    im just kind of confused because i thought when it came to child abuse the police would be involved as soon as the accusation was made, whether the person formally pressed charges or not?

    either way i hope that it isnt true, or that if it IS true people wont flock to defend clash because '16 isnt 5'

    teenagers want to have sex. There is nothing that 2 years as a teenager can do to better inform a 18 year old vs. a 16 year old.

    Age of consent laws are more to remind the adults well beyond their teenage years that perhaps they should think twice, thrice, or keep thinking until it becomes a bad idea to have sex with underage people due to the differing levels of maturity and expectations of life after they put their ding-dong in the squish mitten.

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