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Thoughts about Armored Core 4?
Spawn733
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Sup PA community, I'm just one of the many that've followed this site for YEARS and years. But I just registered today lol.
So the topic at hand is Armored Core 4 (my beloved game to be!):
http://www.sega.com/gamesite/armoredcore4/
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sim/armoredcore4/index.html?q=armored%20core%204
http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/772/772076.html
I was just wondering what Tycho and Gabe might have to say about the reinvention of this long-standing series? I'm really looking forward to its release a few days from now.
And of course, I'm curious to see if any of the PA community even KNOW about it
And perhaps to gauge a few members predictions of how they think it will be verses what they think of it after they've played it > : D
So the topic at hand is Armored Core 4 (my beloved game to be!):
http://www.sega.com/gamesite/armoredcore4/
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sim/armoredcore4/index.html?q=armored%20core%204
http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/772/772076.html
I was just wondering what Tycho and Gabe might have to say about the reinvention of this long-standing series? I'm really looking forward to its release a few days from now.
And of course, I'm curious to see if any of the PA community even KNOW about it
And perhaps to gauge a few members predictions of how they think it will be verses what they think of it after they've played it > : D Spawn733 on
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Okay, I'll give you my opinions on AC4 after playing it, but keep in mind that I haven't actually played the previous AC games.
First up, the mechs are awesome. The customisation is good (but not up to par with Chromehound's extreme level of detail) - but even better, the various mechs "feel" different. Weapons range from Uzi-style guns to precision high-powered rifles, to mortars, to swords (and a much cooler melee weapon, the exploding punch) and energy weapons (not to mention missles, oh the missles) and they are all useful, while being different in style and design. More importantly, the heavy weapons mechs have a feel altogether different from something like the (Carrion Crow? I believe it was called) light mech - the US designed mechs also have a strange, US Marines! feel to them.
Unfortunately, I found the rest of the game a disspointment - not so much because it was or is a bad game, but because I feel that some things could have been done much better. The multiplayer arenas are varied, but all of them feel empty. The larger ones are too big, and much of the match was merely trying to find the other player (keep in mind that this is 1v1 splitscreen). The medium sized maps would be awesome for team battles, but when I mention the larger ones being big... they're huge. Huge, empty expanses, with little to landmark the terrain.
The graphics, at least in SD (over S-Video) are lacking. Again, they are not bad... but the XBox 360 has constantly impressed me far more in the graphical department than anything on offer on the PS3. The explosions, of which you'll be seeing a lot (depending on playstyle ;p), did nothing to really "wow" me, and the animations and mech destruction sequence did not leap out at me.
That said, actual combat was a blast, and the controls were, for the most part, comfortable. Activating the mines or extra missle launches or what-have-you was the only annoying part, but the controls are customisable... with the exception of inverted view, which was not an option. Of course, this is the Japanese version, and there may be changes before localisation.
Three things to keep in mind - one, I did not and have not played single player, so no comment on the story or missions. My Japanese is not up to snuff to properly enjoy it, and I was having too much fun with the multi.
Two, a lot of my "issues" with the game are issues with the PS3 and "next-gen" gameing in general. For all the touted power of the PS3, I haven't yet seen a game that even attempts to use the graphical and processing power at its disposal - this is also true for the XBox 360, but doubly so for the PS3 - especially since it is (supposedly) a more powerful machine. (Tangent: I feel the jump to HD is too early, and it would have been better if the majority of extra power was put towards making SD graphics and gameplay truly spectacular, expecially given the penetration rates of HD televisions and the recumbent nature of the techonolgy in the first place). It'd be nice to see some maps swarming with life, to be able to peer though the smoke and debri of missle fire instead of having your screen go orange, to have significant locational damage and have that determine what happens when a mech goes boom.
Three - and this is the important one - I had fun playing the game. Despite my agitations, it was great fun to play, probably moreso if you can manage to gather more players
PS3 versus 360 comparison. I happen to like look of the 360 version more, but I could see people liking either.
That's a terrible video, its too hard to tell anything. The PS3 version looks so washed out and flat, but looks like it runs cleaner, the 360 one looks like it has more detail in it but is so damn dark you can't see anything.
It'd be nice to see a comparison that was done on similar gamma levels to really tell.
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I really want a game based on 40K titans. Youd be the princeps, and manage weapon systems, damage control, close combat etc while this huge battle raged around you.
I was gonna get the PS3 version but without any communication method whatsoever in online, I dunno if I will anymore.
Seriously, I'm looking for impressions with regards to single player, how expansive is the parts customization, how well multiplayer works online... Just generally opinions from players, especially those with experience with the series.
The thing that struck me from the few movies/trailers I've seen is that the missions actually look longer than the ones in the previous games in the series that I've played where they could literally go for a couple minutes.
Anyway, post away?
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Anywho. The game's a blast. Graphics and sound are beautiful in my eyes. I tend to have a boner for anything giant robot-related, but there ya go.
Controls are freaking great. A bit odd at first if you're used to the rest of AC, they're a VAST, VAST improvement. At least with the beginning AC I chose, you can infinitely boost over the ground. The EN meter only depletes when you go airborne. This is something AC's been needing for a long time. Heat's been done away with. All you have to keep track now are your EN meter and a Primal Armor gauge which decreases when you hit Overboost.
Weapon-wise, I find the change to be very streamlined. Extension parts are now considered Shoulder weapons, and the arm/back parts have to be switched in and out to be used. This means that you can only use your left arm weapon or your left back weapon, not both. Same goes for the right side. I for one welcome this change.
Movement is done with both joysticks. Left joystick is like WASD in keyboards, right joystick makes you turn and look. When you lock on when getting close enough, you click the left joystick to, for the most part, automatically look and turn to keep up with your opponent. It works well enough and you can still move and turn as you wish with the right joystick.
I spit on EGM. They gave this game a bad score. Then again, they're always biased gainst AC.
seriously?
what the fuck.
goodbye purchase.
360 Gamertag: Baronskatenbass Steam: BaronVonSnakPak HgL: AnsonLuap
360 Gamertag: Baronskatenbass Steam: BaronVonSnakPak HgL: AnsonLuap
Also. Is it possible to draw an emblem on the PC and load it onto the 360 to import? That would ROCK!
360 Gamertag: Baronskatenbass Steam: BaronVonSnakPak HgL: AnsonLuap
Oh, totally. You blow plenty of shit up!
No goodbye purchase, because at no point did it ask me to log in or choose what Gamertag to use, or anything remotely similar.
You're on the net now so it doesn't even matter for you it seems, but I really don't think what he said about that was true.
So GET IT!! Or rent it at least
Frankly I think the series has taken a step backwards, or at least needs a total revision for AC5. Sure the controls are smoothed out and everything is slick but the gameplay itself and game modes are just so uninspired. I was disappointed at not being able to compete with other Ravens like in AC1 arenas for cash, the story seems to be totally linear and the mission design is at times bafflingly awful. (One mission involves standing on a small island shooting down what looks like embers but are apparently missiles; you shoot down clouds of these things for 5 minutes). The nighttime maps are also absurdly dark. Mission rank varies from stupidly short (fly by a bunch of bad guys and laser sword one enemy in 20 seconds) to needlessly long because you can't figure out what to do. Online seems pretty worthless as well (only deathmatch or team deathmatch)
I honestly can't recommend the game unless you are a total AC freak.
You can compete in an arena later on on special data things. I forget the name.
And you don't remember AC1 if you can't remember retarded missions. The one level where you're endlessly running around a lab? Yeah. Fuck that. Fuck that hard.
I've played the demo and a friend of mine who was watching me play Nexus is going to buy it Friday. I've also played it on another friend's 360. Quick comments:
-Controls are hella nice, even if you've never played a game.
-Missions can really be retardedly short.
-Missions, as per par for AC, are not incredibly varied.
-No more bullshit can't-boost-on-the-ground-heat anymore.
-You really feel like a walking death machine in this game sometimes- something that didn't really come out in previous installments (see: possibly too easy)
-Stabilizers!
-No PLUS, but meh.
Overall I think it's a fun game. It may not be a purchase for non-AC faithful, but the much needed control improvements are great.
However.
This is on the PS3/360. God damnit, I want to see the environments feel alive for once. I want little itty bitty people running for shelter, little shitty tanks not being able to do anything, yadda yadda. Get creative for once in ten years, you fuckers.
What in the hell are you talking about? The Simulator option in the garage is the same thing as the arena. It's now non-linearly structured. You pick a squad and fight each of its members to get cash, schematics, and emblems. The red eyes mission was awesome, dunno about you. As for night time, what the hell's wrong with you? Night time's supposed to be dark. It drives the point home that your enemy really planned their shit out, and without support actually lighting things up and helping you out, the attackers would have succeeded in attacking under the cover of darkness. If it was simply mood-lit like most other past-gen games, you probably would have bitched about it not being dark enough, especially after what Chromehounds showed us night-time battles were all about.
Of course, it makes me wonder why Nightvision or Heatvision weren't available, but whatever.
Can someone explain how stabilizers work? All I see are pretty fins and blocks that appear to affect a yellow box and green box that somehow change my center of mass or some shit.
Anyway, if anyone wants to take my Trombe on or check out its schematic, feel free to reach me on XBL.
And yes, another vote for completely disagree with scosglen
But I have a Q: What do those Flares do?? Do they just light up the area around you? Havent gotten the $ to buy em and i dont know if i should yet
I love the level of destruction in the game though, and having the option to choose to destroy the platform an enemy cannon is on rather than the cannon itself has had me giddy all evening. Haven't checked out the online yet, I'd probably get destroyed.
Chromehounds was fun, played it with some friends a bit last year, but it wasn't really my thing. This feels great though. Reminds me a little of the Virtual On Games, but much more technical. The only thing I dislike is the extreme shortness of some of the missions.
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Eh it's a lunch window game.
It looks nice but you won't see stuff that amazing for another year or 2.
It's going to be very exciting to see what comes out of the PS3 a few years from now after all the ugly first year games are up.
One thing I can't, for the love of anything, dodge however. I've run into it twice. It's this... rapid-firing twin beam plasma... thing. Dunno if it's a gun, or gun-arm. It's deadly shit.
I was on a stupid vacation when this was released. I can't get it until later today... I'm gonna feel so behinnndddd.
It might convince me to pick up a 360
Probably not