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Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation [Released!]

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    ...which begs the question: will my stick work on 360 with AC6? The USB is there. Will they do it?

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    apotheos wrote: »
    ...which begs the question: will my stick work on 360 with AC6? The USB is there. Will they do it?

    It would certainly be nice, wouldn't it?

    I've never played an AC game before but it's always been on my to do list. I even gave Over G Fighters a shot.

    I'm looking forward to this.

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    apotheos wrote: »
    ...which begs the question: will my stick work on 360 with AC6? The USB is there. Will they do it?

    It would certainly be nice, wouldn't it?

    I've never played an AC game before but it's always been on my to do list. I even gave Over G Fighters a shot.

    I'm looking forward to this.

    You poor bastard.

    I bought AC5 deluxe on a whim with 05 xmas cash. It was, honestly, one of the best gaming purchases I have ever made in my life. I've yet to play Zero (I deeply regret) but the stick was backwards compatible with AC04 (even though some controls were flip flopped, and nobody anywhere produced a manual to explain how the fucking stick works in either game).

    I wish I could find Zero for an ok price.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    apotheos wrote: »
    apotheos wrote: »
    ...which begs the question: will my stick work on 360 with AC6? The USB is there. Will they do it?

    It would certainly be nice, wouldn't it?

    I've never played an AC game before but it's always been on my to do list. I even gave Over G Fighters a shot.

    I'm looking forward to this.

    You poor bastard.

    I bought AC5 deluxe on a whim with 05 xmas cash. It was, honestly, one of the best gaming purchases I have ever made in my life. I've yet to play Zero (I deeply regret) but the stick was backwards compatible with AC04 (even though some controls were flip flopped, and nobody anywhere produced a manual to explain how the fucking stick works in either game).

    I wish I could find Zero for an ok price.

    Which PS2 game is the best? I have along list of stuff I misse don the ps2 that I'll pick up if I see it cheap, and I should probably add an AC game to it.

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  • Warder45Warder45 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    apotheos wrote: »
    apotheos wrote: »
    ...which begs the question: will my stick work on 360 with AC6? The USB is there. Will they do it?

    It would certainly be nice, wouldn't it?

    I've never played an AC game before but it's always been on my to do list. I even gave Over G Fighters a shot.

    I'm looking forward to this.

    You poor bastard.

    I bought AC5 deluxe on a whim with 05 xmas cash. It was, honestly, one of the best gaming purchases I have ever made in my life. I've yet to play Zero (I deeply regret) but the stick was backwards compatible with AC04 (even though some controls were flip flopped, and nobody anywhere produced a manual to explain how the fucking stick works in either game).

    I wish I could find Zero for an ok price.

    Which PS2 game is the best? I have a long list of stuff I missed on the ps2 that I'll pick up if I see it cheap, and I should probably add an AC game to it.

    Unfortunately everyone has their favorites. I enjoyed both AC4 and AC5. I'd say go for both as they can be had for $20 a pop new or less used.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    What are the major differences between 4 and 5?

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    AC04 for being Mobius One.

    AC05 for
    OH FUCK I'M FIGHTING MOBIUS ONE AGGGGHHGSKFG

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    What are the major differences between 4 and 5?

    Both games take place in the same world, but involve different countries. In 04 the story revolves around a man writing a letter about the top ace pilot of the enemy forces. It's more of a side story to the missions. Your character really isn't mentioned. Gameplay wise, 04 also had "return lines" where you can re-arm missiles. That was taken out in 5.

    Spoiler about the ending:
    Until the last part of the letter, where you find out the man is writing the letter to you, the man that killed the top ace.

    In 5, the story revolves around your squadmates and yourself. The missions play a more important part of the plot. Many people feel that the plot of 5 in much more "anime"ish than 04. Speaking of squadmates, 5 introduced squadron commands, and you can assign each pilot different planes.

    There isn't much continuity to the stories, so you can start out with either. However, a "Nagase" shows up as a civilian pilot in 04. I personally think it's the same Nagase, one of your wingmen, in 5.
    I'm pretty sure that you don't fight Mobius 1 in 5. Were you thinking of the bonus "Gauntlet" mission in 0?

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Squadron commands don't work well.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    2) A lot of people say 04 is the best in the series. I'd say start with that. I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed the more drama based stories of 5 and Zero. But really, all of them are good games.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    It sounds like I really can't go wrong with either 4 or 5, so whichever I happened to see first will get my monies.

    Unless 6 suddenly comes out.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Five looks prettier.

    And you get to bomb shit prettily.

    I'd get five before four.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Ok, 5 it is!

    Hmm, AC0 seems to be th eonly one that supports 480p. I hate how 480i PS2 games look on my display.

    So what's the downside with zero?

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Well...some believe the plot in Zero is the weakest of the series, since it focuses more on the individual stories of the enemy ace pilots than the actual plot. Moreover, I've read reviewers say that missions were more boring than before. I personally don't find that to be true. The fights with the ace squadrons are really intense and are a lot of fun. I enjoyed the story of Zero, and it connects to 5, which is cool.

    Although you only have one wingman in Zero, the commands work much better than 5.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Your wingman is still dumb and useless. At least in Five there are three targets for enemies to shoot at.

    Also: Can they get shot down? Ever?

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  • NickTheNewbieNickTheNewbie Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Your wingman is still dumb and useless. At least in Five there are three targets for enemies to shoot at.

    Also: Can they get shot down? Ever?

    You're insane. Pixy is the most badass wingman i've ever had in an ace combat game. He takes out shit constantly, and I love it.


    I like 04 and zero the most. 5 had a very good storyline, but i simply didn't like the radio chatter. It was useless banter. 04 had basically strictly realistic military radio chatter, which i thought was pretty awesome, and zero had a nice balance of the two IMHO. I liked how the story was done in zero, because much like in AC04, how your actions are described through a boy who hang out with the enemy airforce, your actions in zero are after the fact interviews with the airforce themselves. It puts a real interesting spin on story when you find out how your actions affected their lives.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I finished AC0 in about 2 and a half hours. So if you're looking for more game, go for AC4 or 5. I also enjoyed the story in 4 more than the others, but they all have their moments. You feel more connected to the plot in 5, and Zero has its interviews. Zero is also a sort of prequel to 5. They all have something unique about them.

    I should mention that, if you want to see everything Zero has to offer, you should play through it 3 times, once per pilot-type.

    Edit: It's also worth mentioning that since the missions in these games are so intense, they seem to go on for 30 minutes or more. Usually missions are 5 or 10 minutes in length, though there are a few lengthy ones.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Hmm, zero sounds like a good rental and a way to get in to the series.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Hmm, zero sounds like a good rental and a way to get in to the series.

    NO! 4 and Zero have no training mode. 5 has a training mode.

    Spectator mode in Ace Combat 6 is going to be awesome, especially if they up the graphical details like collateral damage, curtails, exhaust trails and explosions.

    I want to see SMOKE EVERYWHERE AND I WANT IT TO BLOW AROUND WHEN I FLY THROUGH IT.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I found out that in 5, you have to constantly keep on giving wingmen targets, and then they'll start to be effective. Nagase had a kill count that rivaled mine.

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  • NickTheNewbieNickTheNewbie Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Cantido wrote: »
    Hmm, zero sounds like a good rental and a way to get in to the series.

    NO! 4 and Zero have no training mode. 5 has a training mode.

    Spectator mode in Ace Combat 6 is going to be awesome, especially if they up the graphical details like collateral damage, curtails, exhaust trails and explosions.

    I want to see SMOKE EVERYWHERE AND I WANT IT TO BLOW AROUND WHEN I FLY THROUGH IT.


    4 has a training mode, noob.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah, N00b!

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Cantido wrote: »
    Hmm, zero sounds like a good rental and a way to get in to the series.

    NO! 4 and Zero have no training mode. 5 has a training mode.

    Spectator mode in Ace Combat 6 is going to be awesome, especially if they up the graphical details like collateral damage, curtails, exhaust trails and explosions.

    I want to see SMOKE EVERYWHERE AND I WANT IT TO BLOW AROUND WHEN I FLY THROUGH IT.


    4 has a training mode, noob.

    I used the first stage as my training mode. I called it "Don't smash into the ass of those giant planes." Took me a while to pass that one.

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  • Safety StickSafety Stick Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Typhoon (I have a tradition of playing the games through using only RAF aircraft on ACE)? Xbox 360? AC4 guys working on it?

    You can't see it, but my pants are on the tensile limit. I bought a PS2 just for AC4 and enjoyed every minute of it. Whilst 5 and 0 never quite matched it they were still superb games, just lacking in anything on par with the missions 'Shattered Skies' and 'Whiskey Corridor/Bunker shot'. I'm actually replaying 5 now and getting back into it (trying to fill those damn kill bars - one of pet peeves from 5), still one of the best stories of the series (really nice cut scenes too - goodbye Kestrel).

    Always peeved me that the UK never got the flight stick though :(

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I didn't get the flight stick, but because I did an in-class playthrough of the mission First Flight on AC5 for a multimedia class, I was given the Wardog patch.

    You ever see a nerd tear up? Everyone in my class that day did. I get a little misty-eyed just thinkin about it.

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  • Safety StickSafety Stick Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Damn you! I'd love to have one of those too.

    I've got several smaller squadron patches I've collected from squadrons/projects I have worked for but that would be the ultimate prize for my collection.

    The nice thing about 4 in particular but the series in general is that youi can tell the developers loved their aircraft. If you fly any of the F-15, switch to cockpit view, look out at the intakes and start feeding in the throttle you can see the ramps descend as the aircraft goes transonic. Similarly at top speed in the F-14 the glove vanes flip out. Both of those are something you see rarely in flight simulators but here they are in an 'arcade' game.

    The other cool thing was the F-117 in AC4. It shouldn't have a gun or AA missiles yet the dev team managed to integrate them in a way that at least seems feasible. When you fire the gun a hatch briefly opens whilst the trigger is down so that the RCS is preserved. That's cool. Shame the F-117 never seemed to benefit from stealth.

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  • NickTheNewbieNickTheNewbie Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I preordered 5 from both EB and gamestop so i could get both the yuktobania and osean patches :-D

    I also got the huge wardog patch that came with the flightstick. It's awexome.

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I preordered 5 from both EB and gamestop so i could get both the yuktobania and osean patches :-D

    I also got the huge wardog patch that came with the flightstick. It's awexome.
    Wait, how many patches are there in total? I have... 4 I believe packed away. If there's more I need to be sure to find those. Funny thing is with the whole "rumors" of the next game a few days ago I dug 'em out and was planning on going to buy a hoodie to stick 'em on.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I want a Mobius Squadron patch. I really doubt that's easy to find. I hope 6 has a few nods to previous games. I'm not worried, given that 4-Zero took place in the same world.

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Renzo wrote: »
    I want a Mobius Squadron patch. I really doubt that's easy to find. I hope 6 has a few nods to previous games. I'm not worried, given that 4-Zero took place in the same world.
    I actually hope not. I mean I wouldn't mind just a tiny nod as you say but I don't want it in the same world anymore. I'm tired of it. I think that's just because Zero felt like such a let down to me.

    Maybe do it like it works in Final Fantasy. A name here and there but differant universes entirely.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Renzo wrote: »
    I didn't get the flight stick, but because I did an in-class playthrough of the mission First Flight on AC5 for a multimedia class, I was given the Wardog patch.

    You ever see a nerd tear up? Everyone in my class that day did. I get a little misty-eyed just thinkin about it.

    What was the project on? That sounded awesome.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I preordered 5 from both EB and gamestop so i could get both the yuktobania and osean patches :-D

    I also got the huge wardog patch that came with the flightstick. It's awexome.
    Wait, how many patches are there in total? I have... 4 I believe packed away. If there's more I need to be sure to find those. Funny thing is with the whole "rumors" of the next game a few days ago I dug 'em out and was planning on going to buy a hoodie to stick 'em on.

    Screw the hoodie. You need to get yourself one of these to put the patches on.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    I didn't get the flight stick, but because I did an in-class playthrough of the mission First Flight on AC5 for a multimedia class, I was given the Wardog patch.

    You ever see a nerd tear up? Everyone in my class that day did. I get a little misty-eyed just thinkin about it.

    What was the project on? That sounded awesome.

    It wasn't a project. The prof just wanted someone to play AC5 with the flight stick to demonstrate "simulations". I was the only person in the class who had played any Ace Combat game, so I volunteered. Hadn't used the stick before, either. But I did bring in my memory card so the class could see the beginning of First Flight. It's the mission where
    the base is getting raided, and you take off while shit's getting blown up all around you
    . It was pretty cool.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Renzo wrote: »
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    I didn't get the flight stick, but because I did an in-class playthrough of the mission First Flight on AC5 for a multimedia class, I was given the Wardog patch.

    You ever see a nerd tear up? Everyone in my class that day did. I get a little misty-eyed just thinkin about it.

    What was the project on? That sounded awesome.

    It wasn't a project. The prof just wanted someone to play AC5 with the flight stick to demonstrate "simulations". I was the only person in the class who had played any Ace Combat game, so I volunteered. Hadn't used the stick before, either. But I did bring in my memory card so the class could see the beginning of First Flight. It's the mission where
    the base is getting raided, and you take off while shit's getting blown up all around you
    . It was pretty cool.

    Ah, awesome.

    "Come on, come on come on come on!"

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Axen wrote: »
    I preordered 5 from both EB and gamestop so i could get both the yuktobania and osean patches :-D

    I also got the huge wardog patch that came with the flightstick. It's awexome.
    Wait, how many patches are there in total? I have... 4 I believe packed away. If there's more I need to be sure to find those. Funny thing is with the whole "rumors" of the next game a few days ago I dug 'em out and was planning on going to buy a hoodie to stick 'em on.

    Screw the hoodie. You need to get yourself one of these to put the patches on.

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    I was actually planning on it (why I havn't done it until now) but I don't have the money and never really like leather jackets.

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  • NickTheNewbieNickTheNewbie Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Wait, how many patches are there in total? I have... 4 I believe packed away. If there's more I need to be sure to find those. Funny thing is with the whole "rumors" of the next game a few days ago I dug 'em out and was planning on going to buy a hoodie to stick 'em on.
    I believe 3 or 4 came with each preorder, plus the 1 wardog. So it's either 9 or 7. I'll find out when I get home.


    Renzo wrote:
    I want a Mobius Squadron patch. I really doubt that's easy to find. I hope 6 has a few nods to previous games. I'm not worried, given that 4-Zero took place in the same world.

    Right now, the highest quality digital image of the mobius squadron logo appears here: http://www.acecombat04.com/img/world/frontline_s_1.jpg
    I've been attempting for the past couple months to obtain a higher resolution version, as I wish to make this a tattoo. My friend is using illustrator to make it, but is having trouble with the background. The only other place that background appears is in one of the trailers, and the screengrab i have of it is also very low rez.

    I have a strategy guide on the way from japan that has a small logo on the cover. It may be small but I can scan it in at very high rez and then i can provide it to you guys and my artist friend. Maybe then you can have your patch made and I can get my tattoo.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Too bad I didn't get into Ace Combat till after I decommisioned the Constellation. Woulda been nice to have a farewell cruise jacket (think high school lettermen's style with the leather sleeves) with all the squadrens from the ship then throw on the AC badges.

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Wait, how many patches are there in total? I have... 4 I believe packed away. If there's more I need to be sure to find those. Funny thing is with the whole "rumors" of the next game a few days ago I dug 'em out and was planning on going to buy a hoodie to stick 'em on.
    I believe 3 or 4 came with each preorder, plus the 1 wardog. So it's either 9 or 7. I'll find out when I get home.
    Yea, frick. I have the three Osean ones and the Wardog patch.
    Sigh.. seems like the only way to get the Yuke ones would to buy somebodies flight stick bundle on ebay.

    Unless of course somebody here wants to sell 'em? :)

    Come now, if they're sitting around make a man happy!

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    The other cool thing was the F-117 in AC4. It shouldn't have a gun or AA missiles yet the dev team managed to integrate them in a way that at least seems feasible. When you fire the gun a hatch briefly opens whilst the trigger is down so that the RCS is preserved. That's cool. Shame the F-117 never seemed to benefit from stealth.

    I actually didn't like the F-117 being in game, and refused to fly it out of principle. But that's because I'm a nerd.
    The F-117 is not a fighter

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    Gee.

    I got that giant Wardog patch.

    I kinda thought it was the most retarded gaming paraphernalia I'd ever seen.

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