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Europa Universalis 4 thread

SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
edited January 2014 in Social Entropy++
Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis 4 is a grand strategy game made by Paradox Interactive set in the age of exploration and enlightenment, from 1444 to sometime around 1800. A sequel to Europa Universalis 3 which I have played multiple hundred hours of, it is a game I am highly excited for.

In the game you chose any country on the face of the earth during the time period, and lead it in conquest, trade, exploration, diplomacy, and/or getting repeatedly wrecked by rebels and probably france. EU4 sees changes and improvements in a number of areas over it's predecessor, such as trade (individual centers of trades decentralized into areas and the change from local trade only to controlling the flow of goods from the far east and new world into Europe), the economy (a larger reliance on loans to finance wars, no more minting, monthly income instead of monthly expenses and yearly income) technology (monarch points instead of invested money) and just about everything else in some way.

The big change is monarch points. Your monarch (or president/doge/etc. if you're playing a filthy republic) generates points, based on how skilled they are in 3 different areas (administration, diplomacy, military) you use these points for everything. Creating a core? Administration power. Offering a peace deal? Diplomatic power. Recruiting a general? Military power. The thing is, there are tons of other uses for these resources too, and you also need a large number of them to advance technologily. Knowing when to horde and when to spend your points is going to be important.

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    I love this video game.

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  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Op now containing actual images of the actual game I am talking about!

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    Europa Universalis 3 is a damn good game.

  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    Let me extend that statement. Paradox Development's Strategy Games are all damn good games.

  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    I have spent far, far too much time playing these games.

    A very unhealthy amount of time playing these games.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Making Sicily create Italy is a joy. Especially when you beat down Austria.

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  • MacallanMacallan Registered User regular
    This thread is highly relevant to a certain gift I got from @Syphyre earlier today. Pretty awesome so far.

  • VicVic Registered User regular
    I bought Victoria 2 at launch because I loved EU3 so much, and gave up learning it after a few hours. I went back into it recently though due to a lets's play, and it is actually quite fun! I hope they add in some of the advantages in that game to EU4, like clever rebel hunting AI, rally points and evenly splitting armies.

    Did I mention I love EU3? I really love that game! Probably my proudest achievements in that game are the two campaigns where I made Georgia and then Tibet the greatest powers in the world.

  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    The first game where I actually "accomplished" something (i.e. not simply learning and getting rolled) was creating Italy. I was so proud of myself. I forget who I started as though...

  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Sicily is the second best Italian state.

    Sardinia-Piedmont fo' lyfe.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    I really need to get back into Vicky 2. I have quite a few hours racked up on it. Same with CK2. And I have HoI3 and I have yet to play it.

    But EU3 will always be my favorite. It's amazing how each expansion they made for that game made it better and better.

  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    I should play EU3. It tickles my fancy for ridiculous historical scenarios.

  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    Sicily is the second best Italian state.

    Sardinia-Piedmont fo' lyfe.

    Buncha rich fuckers that need to be put to the sword for glorious Sicily.

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  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Confession time.

    I own HoI3 and Vicky2 but I am terrible at them.

    Probably because I refuse to play countries that are actually powerful in any of these games because I am dumb.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Hearts of Iron 3 is confusing as hell. I just want to invade another country!

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Well read these graphs right and maybe you can!

  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    One thing I really hope the do a better job with in EU4 is making non-European states actually competitive with Europeans. It's just so painful moving from Castile to Morocco and suddenly you have no diplomats or money or missionaries just because.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    The games are rather euro-centric. Also I can't invade without lowering neutrality and that takes months.

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  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    I don't mind if Europe "wins" all the time. It just bothers me that they do it by making all their numbers higher without really giving any applicable reason why.

    You're christian?

    Cool! Enjoy these free extra colonists and diplomats then!

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • WhytherWhyther Registered User regular
    I am not smart enough to play these games.

    But it looks like you guys are!

    One/All of you should do a Let's Play.

  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    I don't mind if Europe "wins" all the time. It just bothers me that they do it by making all their numbers higher without really giving any applicable reason why.

    You're christian?

    Cool! Enjoy these free extra colonists and diplomats then!

    Ottomans should get all those perks and more.

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Whyther wrote: »
    I am not smart enough to play these games.

    But it looks like you guys are!

    One/All of you should do a Let's Play.

    We did try one. It stalled: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/124521/lets-play-paradox-succession-game-charlemagnes-heirs-the-thread-lives/p1

    Also I like how you show the world map for everything but HOI3, it feels appropriate

  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    One thing I really love about this game is that you pretty much always have a nemesis. Mine is usually France because I spend way too much time in the lowlands/Western HRE, but for Italians it's usually Austria, Eastern Europe it's The Golden Horde until they reach Bohemia, etc.

    There is always someone who will attack you no matter how much you try to please them and they will always do it at the worst time.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Well that's only true until you hit a certain point after which you effectively can't lose. Early game though is definitely like that

  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Austria deserves nothing but death and ruin. Fuckers always trying to meddle in Italian affairs.

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  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    Well that's only true until you hit a certain point after which you effectively can't lose. Early game though is definitely like that

    One thing that I like about them moving the start date back up for 4 is that it will hopefully make it so you don't reach that point before the reformation hits, because it usually isn't much more than a speedbump, even if you do try to convert.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    Phyphor wrote: »
    Well that's only true until you hit a certain point after which you effectively can't lose. Early game though is definitely like that

    One thing that I like about them moving the start date back up for 4 is that it will hopefully make it so you don't reach that point before the reformation hits, because it usually isn't much more than a speedbump, even if you do try to convert.

    When does it start?

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  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    EU4 is gonna start in 1444.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Hooray, still before the fall of Byzantium.

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    I actually find the reformation is harder because of the early start; as a small country it's trivial to do, but you try converting a 300 province country? Horrible

    As long as they don't move it back to 1453 though it's all good. Need my byzantium!

  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    It's easy to convert if you're small, but then you run into defender of the faith issues when you try to expand. If you're big enough you can usually just put your expansion on hold while you convert stuff and squash rebels. Unless you're playing the 5.2 beta with the manpower changes, in which case I have no idea what to tell you.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Meh, DotF isn't really that big... I rarely care who the AI DotF is, if anything it makes it less likely you have to repeatedly bash France over the head when playing a non-catholic because you have protestants to attack instead

    What will be annoying is that you don't have 50 years to rush colonization and/or neuter Portugal, Castille & England before they go all gung-ho colonizing if you want to rule everything on the cheap by 1500 like my last game, you'll actually have to take their colonies instead

  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Portugal and Castille have nasty habits of interfering with my precious Italy.

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  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    The worst is England and Scandinavia. They can't get enough of those wrong-culture 1 base tax fish provinces.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    The worst is England and Scandinavia. They can't get enough of those wrong-culture 1 base tax fish provinces.

    It warms my heart whenever I see England get clobbered by continentals or Ireland.

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    I can't remember the last time I've seen a continental AI power invade England. I have seen Scotland win a couple times though. And then promptly form GB

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    I think I'll just go ahead and light the @Wiet signal because he might be interested in this thread and also because I'd like to ask him for Shogun 2 advice.

  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Oh yeah I forgot that I always see him playing CK2 when I'm awake at inappropriate hours of the night (playing CK2)

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    Confession time.

    I own HoI3 and Vicky2 but I am terrible at them.

    Probably because I refuse to play countries that are actually powerful in any of these games because I am dumb.

    Playing HoI as a minor power is... not something I'd bother doing, simply because you'll never grow enough to matter with the short timeframe available even from the earliest setting. And if you go from the earliest setting and you're not playing Germany, I find the blitzkrieg ends up being a slowkrieg and failing horribly because the AI is Not Good At This

  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    I can't remember the last time I've seen a continental AI power invade England. I have seen Scotland win a couple times though. And then promptly form GB

    I've seen France, Castille, and Aragon all wreckin shit in England. It's great.

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