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Yeah, the recent The Thing is most certainly a prequel, even taking place in the early 1980s. The last scene of the film is that dog running away towards the camp where Russell, et al, were staying.
It wasn't terrible, but it's mostly a rehash of the Carpenter original with some very jarring CG that immediately breaks the sensation that you're watching a for-realsies prequel. It also raises some stupid and needless questions that are never answered, like, why would a parasitic hive-mind organism have a spaceship? The titular Thing is a formless assimilation of others' biology and anatomy, basically a contagious infection. But the new film gives that walking contagious infection a spaceship and a desire to get back to its homeworld with little understanding as to how or why. Which, when applied forward onto the Carpenter film, only creates more confusion as to why the Thing spent the whole time going bugfuck berserk instead of quietly riding that dog back over to its spaceship.
It makes the mistake that a lot of shitty sci-fi monster movies make by having the alien(s) be simultaneously horrible, primal, bloodthirsty, naked beasts and hyper-intelligent space-geniuses. (see: Cowboys & Aliens, Alien Resurrection, X-Files)
It makes the mistake that a lot of shitty sci-fi monster movies make by having the alien(s) be simultaneously horrible, primal, bloodthirsty, naked beasts and hyper-intelligent space-geniuses. (see: Cowboys & Aliens, Alien Resurrection, X-Files)
Eh. Typically those aliens are brutal, bloodthirsty beasts because we can't sit down and discuss the finer points of calculus with them--I'm sure to them humans appear to be horrible, violent, grunting beings nonetheless capable of interplanetary travel. I see no inherent contradiction there, any more than I'd expect a violent moron in a pick-up truck to live up to the standard of Étienne Lenoir.
Anyway, The Thing is good, but I wouldn't call it the best horror movie ever made... There are a handful of better ones. Psycho and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre come to mind.
Yeah, the recent The Thing is most certainly a prequel, even taking place in the early 1980s. The last scene of the film is that dog running away towards the camp where Russell, et al, were staying.
It wasn't terrible, but it's mostly a rehash of the Carpenter original with some very jarring CG that immediately breaks the sensation that you're watching a for-realsies prequel. It also raises some stupid and needless questions that are never answered, like, why would a parasitic hive-mind organism have a spaceship? The titular Thing is a formless assimilation of others' biology and anatomy, basically a contagious infection. But the new film gives that walking contagious infection a spaceship and a desire to get back to its homeworld with little understanding as to how or why. Which, when applied forward onto the Carpenter film, only creates more confusion as to why the Thing spent the whole time going bugfuck berserk instead of quietly riding that dog back over to its spaceship.
It makes the mistake that a lot of shitty sci-fi monster movies make by having the alien(s) be simultaneously horrible, primal, bloodthirsty, naked beasts and hyper-intelligent space-geniuses. (see: Cowboys & Aliens, Alien Resurrection, X-Files)
The ship(which was shown in the original I believe, or at least mentioned it was found) is explained away really easily, people ran from thier home planet/encounter with the thing, not knowing its on board. This exact scenario happens in alien, except they kill it in the end. It takes everyone over and their knowledge of how to work the ship. ship crashes, it gets stuck in ice. We dont know if its hibernates or is stuck against its will. I am murky on when it returns to the ship, but maybe it did because it was too cold out to survive? We dont know that it was trying to leave, do we? I dont think it ever communicates that motive.
The Ship in the ice was in the original as well but it was never said whether The Thing piloted it or just absorbed everyone onboard... It does also start to build a spaceship (out of scrap!) in the original at the end so clearly it's intelligent enough to do such things. Whether that intelligence comes from the people/aliens it absorbed is another question
TCM better than the thing? Bullshit, that movie is abysmal to watch has glacier pacing and some of the worst acting outside of porn.
That's the point, Preach. It's so scuzzy and unpreten stripped of artificial movie dross like "acting" and "writing" that it simply feels like something very real and very horrible is happening in front of you. Horror is actually a very wide genre, but in the realm of movies that want to make you feel like the universe is a cold, brutal, and unforgiving place, TCM is pretty much tops.
Largely because people in here keep praising it, a group of people and I sat down and watched The Thing and eh none of us were that impressed, the characters weren't that interest...oh hi there Geth!
Also a point against TCM it inspired some of the worst movies in shit like Wrong Turn and the TCM sequels, where as The Thing outside of its lukewarm prequel hasn't really been copied effectively ever.
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I am ashamed to admit I have never seen The Thing. It's sitting there, in my Netflix Streaming Queue, waiting for me to finally either convince the wife (who generally refuses to watch horror movies) that we should watch it, or wait until some mythical time in which I am the only person in the living room for a long enough period of time to watch a movie.
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If you feel that strongly about it, instead of sicking the robot overlords on me you should be helping me with ideas for enticing the wife to sit down and watch it with me. :P
I saw TCM, and I can see the appeal, but it really didn't wow me. It gets points for achieving the brutal revulsion that modern torture porn tries to capture, and by doing it without actually being all that graphic.
My biggest objection is that it's basically the Mitichondrial Eve of torture porn, so fuck it on those grounds.
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Yeah, the recent The Thing is most certainly a prequel, even taking place in the early 1980s. The last scene of the film is that dog running away towards the camp where Russell, et al, were staying.
It wasn't terrible, but it's mostly a rehash of the Carpenter original with some very jarring CG that immediately breaks the sensation that you're watching a for-realsies prequel. It also raises some stupid and needless questions that are never answered, like, why would a parasitic hive-mind organism have a spaceship? The titular Thing is a formless assimilation of others' biology and anatomy, basically a contagious infection. But the new film gives that walking contagious infection a spaceship and a desire to get back to its homeworld with little understanding as to how or why. Which, when applied forward onto the Carpenter film, only creates more confusion as to why the Thing spent the whole time going bugfuck berserk instead of quietly riding that dog back over to its spaceship.
It makes the mistake that a lot of shitty sci-fi monster movies make by having the alien(s) be simultaneously horrible, primal, bloodthirsty, naked beasts and hyper-intelligent space-geniuses. (see: Cowboys & Aliens, Alien Resurrection, X-Files)
Per the director, the oringinal ending they had in mind covered this:
Instead of the reconfiguring tetris-block look at the engine room, originally the scene was of a cockpit with the driver having killed themselves; as MEW walks through the wreckage, she sees devestation similar to what happened at the Norweigan base, implying that the exact same thing happened on this ship.
The execs found this confusing and demanded a retool of the ending, which is why the CG takes such a sharp turn once MEW gets to the ship. They had to slap everything together.
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I think the Thing critical reception was probably clouded by ET being dominant that year? And so people wanted cuddly aliens not body stealing tentacle monsters.
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I think the Thing critical reception was probably clouded by ET being dominant that year? And so people wanted cuddly aliens not body stealing tentacle monsters.
Well, both Sci-Fi and Horror tend to get ghettoized. ET only had to deal with one of those.
Then again, when I was a young child I was TERRIFIED of ET. I remember when I was around 4 (I think) and my parents brought me to a Christmas (I think) party, that had someone dressed up as ET for the children. I hid behind my parents until one of them thought to point out the human feet wearing sneakers poking out of the bottom of the costume.
No it's not. It blends traditional animation with CG. It's basically a beautiful mix of two different worlds and I want to see a full feature in the style
I've said it in previous film threads past, and I'll say it again: You haven't really seen TCM until you've seen a grainy print at a midnight showing packed full of people.
Everyone heckles and makes jokes. Until the chainsaw revs. Then the crowd is completely silent, for the rest of the film. Also the dinner table scene was physically painful. There were high pitches that were actually playing havoc with my inner ear, never had that sort of thing happen when I saw it on DVD.
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It wasn't terrible, but it's mostly a rehash of the Carpenter original with some very jarring CG that immediately breaks the sensation that you're watching a for-realsies prequel. It also raises some stupid and needless questions that are never answered, like, why would a parasitic hive-mind organism have a spaceship? The titular Thing is a formless assimilation of others' biology and anatomy, basically a contagious infection. But the new film gives that walking contagious infection a spaceship and a desire to get back to its homeworld with little understanding as to how or why. Which, when applied forward onto the Carpenter film, only creates more confusion as to why the Thing spent the whole time going bugfuck berserk instead of quietly riding that dog back over to its spaceship.
It makes the mistake that a lot of shitty sci-fi monster movies make by having the alien(s) be simultaneously horrible, primal, bloodthirsty, naked beasts and hyper-intelligent space-geniuses. (see: Cowboys & Aliens, Alien Resurrection, X-Files)
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Eh. Typically those aliens are brutal, bloodthirsty beasts because we can't sit down and discuss the finer points of calculus with them--I'm sure to them humans appear to be horrible, violent, grunting beings nonetheless capable of interplanetary travel. I see no inherent contradiction there, any more than I'd expect a violent moron in a pick-up truck to live up to the standard of Étienne Lenoir.
Anyway, The Thing is good, but I wouldn't call it the best horror movie ever made... There are a handful of better ones. Psycho and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre come to mind.
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The ship(which was shown in the original I believe, or at least mentioned it was found) is explained away really easily, people ran from thier home planet/encounter with the thing, not knowing its on board. This exact scenario happens in alien, except they kill it in the end. It takes everyone over and their knowledge of how to work the ship. ship crashes, it gets stuck in ice. We dont know if its hibernates or is stuck against its will. I am murky on when it returns to the ship, but maybe it did because it was too cold out to survive? We dont know that it was trying to leave, do we? I dont think it ever communicates that motive.
That's the point, Preach. It's so scuzzy and unpreten stripped of artificial movie dross like "acting" and "writing" that it simply feels like something very real and very horrible is happening in front of you. Horror is actually a very wide genre, but in the realm of movies that want to make you feel like the universe is a cold, brutal, and unforgiving place, TCM is pretty much tops.
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I-I was just saying how perfect The Thing was
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I can safely say that it was a motion picture.
If you feel that strongly about it, instead of sicking the robot overlords on me you should be helping me with ideas for enticing the wife to sit down and watch it with me. :P
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My biggest objection is that it's basically the Mitichondrial Eve of torture porn, so fuck it on those grounds.
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CPR? I thought he was performing an autopsy. I admit, it's been over a year since I watched it.
No. He was about to do the shock paddles and then...
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Per the director, the oringinal ending they had in mind covered this:
The execs found this confusing and demanded a retool of the ending, which is why the CG takes such a sharp turn once MEW gets to the ship. They had to slap everything together.
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I only first watched it about a year ago and it was spectacular.
And it's all CG.
As proof of how useless the razzies are. Morricone's score for the thing won one.
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Goddamn my accursed memory. Now I'll have to watch it again tonight.
Also, that original ending to The Thing prequel sounds great.
Fuckin' producers
Well, both Sci-Fi and Horror tend to get ghettoized. ET only had to deal with one of those.
Then again, when I was a young child I was TERRIFIED of ET. I remember when I was around 4 (I think) and my parents brought me to a Christmas (I think) party, that had someone dressed up as ET for the children. I hid behind my parents until one of them thought to point out the human feet wearing sneakers poking out of the bottom of the costume.
No it's not. It blends traditional animation with CG. It's basically a beautiful mix of two different worlds and I want to see a full feature in the style
Everyone heckles and makes jokes. Until the chainsaw revs. Then the crowd is completely silent, for the rest of the film. Also the dinner table scene was physically painful. There were high pitches that were actually playing havoc with my inner ear, never had that sort of thing happen when I saw it on DVD.
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And when I showed some people The Straight Story, they thought it was lame at first and heckled but by the end everyone was in tears.
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You must be good at taffy pulls, because that was a stretchohmygodihatemyself
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