Super Smash Bros. Super Thread: Reggie thinks he's a videogame

TDawg

I would much rather have more characters/stages for multiplayer than Subspace Emissary. I enjoyed playing it for my first time through, and even played a bit of it here and there with friends, but when it comes down to it, Smash Bros. is always more about playing with (and against) friends than going through a story-mode. For instance, I would have traded pretty much everything in Subspace Emissary for the Plusle-Minun combo to be put in the game.

I wonder how large the roster will be. Brawl's is already preposterously large, and they can't just keep expanding on every single game. I wouldn't be all that surprised if they really pruned the roster down for the next game.

Zephiran

I think some kind of "Story Mission/s" need to be in there, if only to contribute a sense of value. Not everyone wants to go online and fight, or even fight against people they can hook up for local play, so what are they supposed to do with the game if the competitive aspect of it doesn't appeal to them? To broaden appeal and give the game some single player longevity, there has to be something more in there that entices people to keep playing, or heck, picking the game up in the first place.

It'll be a bit tricky to pull off, since if they do something that is basically SSE again, people are going to be all "But it's just SSE again!", no matter how good they are at polishing it up.

RockinX

TDawg wrote: »

I would much rather have more characters/stages for multiplayer than Subspace Emissary. I enjoyed playing it for my first time through, and even played a bit of it here and there with friends, but when it comes down to it, Smash Bros. is always more about playing with (and against) friends than going through a story-mode. For instance, I would have traded pretty much everything in Subspace Emissary for the Plusle-Minun combo to be put in the game.

I wonder how large the roster will be. Brawl's is already preposterously large, and they can't just keep expanding on every single game. I wouldn't be all that surprised if they really pruned the roster down for the next game.

As a competitive Pokémon battler, it would have been annoying for me to see Plusle and Minun in SSBB, because they are completely unusable, especially in doubles, where their ability should have made them suited for battle, but instead it still makes them less than ideal on any kind of team. It was already annoying to learn that Jigglypuff was awful (though they made it usable in triples in BW).

RockinX

TDawg wrote: »

I would much rather have more characters/stages for multiplayer than Subspace Emissary. I enjoyed playing it for my first time through, and even played a bit of it here and there with friends, but when it comes down to it, Smash Bros. is always more about playing with (and against) friends than going through a story-mode. For instance, I would have traded pretty much everything in Subspace Emissary for the Plusle-Minun combo to be put in the game.

I wonder how large the roster will be. Brawl's is already preposterously large, and they can't just keep expanding on every single game. I wouldn't be all that surprised if they really pruned the roster down for the next game.

As a competitive Pokémon battler, it would have been annoying for me to see Plusle and Minun in SSBB, because they are completely unusable, especially in doubles, where their ability should have made them suited for battle, but instead it still makes them less than ideal on any kind of doubles or triples team. It was already annoying to learn that Jigglypuff was awful (though they made it usable in triples in BW).

RidleySaria

Calling it now, Nintendo is doing NFC figurines and they will be the link between the Wii U and 3DS games. The characters in SSB are supposed to be figures to begin with, so it would be taking the idea to the next level. AR cards in Kid Icarus Uprising are a prelude to this.... Sakurai has a thing for these gimmicks.

Litany

That's probably the only thing that could stop me from buying the next Smash. Because I'd run out of organs to sell and I'd need every last one.

RidleySaria

You say that like you have a choice.

Brainiac 8

Litany wrote: »

That's probably the only thing that could stop me from buying the next Smash. Because I'd run out of organs to sell and I'd need every last one.

Um...so very this.

Gandalf_the_Crazed

I'm all for it if it means they keep releasing new characters periodically. That would be the badassest thing.

TDawg

I would be VERY okay with DLC characters/stages/challenges, though I don't especially enjoy the notion of physical items that bestow in-game features. Mostly because I already have a propensity to gathering absurd knick-knacks and not getting rid of them and the last thing I need is another. Though it would be REALLY awesome, I can't deny it. Just bad for me. Very bad for me.

Zephiran

Downloadable characters seems like a PR disaster waiting to happen to me, sadly. People, by and large, don't take kindly to that kind of content even if the basis for their indignation happens to be highly irrational.

Skins and hats, that's where it's at I think. Sell 'em cheap, sell 'em in a pack, no muss no fuss. They could maybe get away with selling some optional stages, but only if the initial selection of stages is extensive, diverse and encompasses a bunch of their franchises.

agoaj

Bowser's arenas from Mario 64 are out now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gq3sD0JVZXE
but this is the best bowser boss level
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrnOmLJq4Xk

HallowedFaith

That is stupid awesome.

LBD_Nytetrayn

Snork wrote: »

how is the smash engine kirby-lite?

Well, they were making a Kirby game out of it, if nothing else. I forget if Return to Dream Land used that same engine, though I do remember it playing a bit like Smash...

Anyway, I liked SSE-- it was fun enough, but I think it could have been better. My biggest beef was the lack of enemies and stage environments more reflective of the characters' game worlds. I mean, a few were, but mostly in ways which somehow felt more generic.

Melee's Adventure Mode, on the other hand-- that nailed it, save for the parts which were just regular battle arenas (though those still worked, too). I want a story mode which goes through stages like those.

Sagroth

So since WiiU has Bayonetta 2 coming, is there any chance we could get Bayonetta in the next Smash Bros?

Because that would be a cool thing.

Vicious_GSR

Sagroth wrote: »

So since WiiU has Bayonetta 2 coming, is there any chance we could get Bayonetta in the next Smash Bros?

Because that would be a cool thing.

I personally would love to see that Lego City Undercover character show up. Lego powered attacks would rock.

stompingbadger85

What new characters would all of you like to see brought to the Wii U Smash Bros.?

Brainiac 8

Ridley and Midna.

Maz-

SAKURAIIIIIIIIIII wrote:

"I think the one word I've said the most this year, by far, is 'Ow!' Not only am I getting calcific tendonitis, but they've also found what are apparently several ruptures in the muscles. My upper arm hurts, and there's this chronic dull pain in my elbow joint as well. On the lower arm, there's this feeling of fatigue around the flexor muscles that turns into pain when I use a keyboard or game controller with my fingers.

There's no instant cure for it, so all I can do is either block the pain with injections or put my arm in a cast to keep the ruptures from spreading. I was told that the important thing was to keep my arm as rested as possible. In order to get it fully healed, the only thing is to not use my right arm or hand. So not only am I using a trackball with my left hand; now I'm using it to eat, brush my teeth, wash my hair, and even drive as much as I'm able to.

As a director, I don't have much time in the weekdays to proceed along with my own work. The entire day is spent overseeing other people, holding meetings, working on other proposals, making visits elsewhere and so on. If I can get everything squared away, then I can work on my own stuff, but most of the time there's just an overwhelming lack of time. Often I go in on my off-days to catch up on my own work, but with my body going on me like this, I have to cut these extra days out of my schedule and even with that I can't use my right arm very much to control things. If this disorder lingers, or if it never gets fixed, there's no telling what impact that would have on the project.

I've had to control two characters at once in a lot of game projects up to now, so as long as I keep it to simple moves, this works well enough. It doesn't go that easy with the Nintendo 3DS version, though, and the debug camera is pretty hard to control. Still, now I realize how important it is to have your health. I'm glad I'm still in good enough shape to work."

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=196943

Let's hope he gets better soon and this doesn't impact the game's development too much.

King Riptor

Sagroth wrote: »

So since WiiU has Bayonetta 2 coming, is there any chance we could get Bayonetta in the next Smash Bros?

Because that would be a cool thing.

Its almost a given.

Though Satan made of hair final smash might be a bit much.


I think using skylander type figures as dlc is la grand idea though I would like it limited to stages and assist trophies. Character selection should not be locked out in a fighting game.

pirateluigi

Amputate and keep working! I demand Smash!

I do hope he gets better... that sounds really painful.

Gandalf_the_Crazed

stompingbadger85 wrote: »

What new characters would all of you like to see brought to the Wii U Smash Bros.?

Frog.

Make him a palette swap of Marth, I genuinely do not give a fuck if there's anything new about his moves, just make it happen.

King Riptor

The Gen five Pokemon should be Bisharp its going to be zoroark though. Its illusion power might be fun.
All the cut brawl characters.

Oh and Dillion.

Maz-

King Riptor wrote: »

The Gen five Pokemon should be Bisharp its going to be zoroark though. Its illusion power might be fun.
All the cut brawl characters.

Oh and Dillion.

I think it's more likely we're gonna see a Gen 6 Pokemon, given that X & Y are gonna be released in October.

Brainiac 8

I didn't think about Dillon. Yes, he should be playable.

Mallo from Pullbox should be an assist trophy.

stompingbadger85

Personally, I would love to see an inclusion of King K. Roc from Donkey Kong Country. Possibly even Ryu Hiyabusa from the Ninja Gaiden series, since the original three were released on the NES. I do not see why Team Ninja would not have that included. But I know that it is probably wishful thinking.

skeldare

stompingbadger85 wrote: »

Personally, I would love to see an inclusion of King K. Roc from Donkey Kong Country. Possibly even Ryu Hiyabusa from the Ninja Gaiden series, since the original three were released on the NES. I do not see why Team Ninja would not have that included. But I know that it is probably wishful thinking.

*cough* King K. Rool *cough*

Brainiac 8

Hehe, we are a bunch of nerd around here. :P

K. Rool would be a great addition, since having more bad guy support would be a great idea.

I just hope they keep Ike, he's one of my favorites from Brawl. Also keep Ness, get rid of Lucas, and add Jeff. Bottlerocket and gadget fighting ahoy!

skeldare

Since it's pretty much guaranteed that they're going to add Chrom, the question is which of the previous Fire Emblem characters will they keep? Marth is probably one of the more recognizable...

stompingbadger85

That is right King K. Rool. I was going a long the right track though =P Also, Ganon proper as a person to fight as, since we already have Ganondorf.

skeldare

They could probably include Demise or Ghirahim from Skyward Sword.

Gandalf_the_Crazed

I wonder if we'll get a stage based on the Sealed Grounds from Skyward Sword. That could be fun.

Zephiran

Maz- wrote: »

SAKURAIIIIIIIIIII wrote:

"I think the one word I've said the most this year, by far, is 'Ow!' Not only am I getting calcific tendonitis, but they've also found what are apparently several ruptures in the muscles. My upper arm hurts, and there's this chronic dull pain in my elbow joint as well. On the lower arm, there's this feeling of fatigue around the flexor muscles that turns into pain when I use a keyboard or game controller with my fingers.

There's no instant cure for it, so all I can do is either block the pain with injections or put my arm in a cast to keep the ruptures from spreading. I was told that the important thing was to keep my arm as rested as possible. In order to get it fully healed, the only thing is to not use my right arm or hand. So not only am I using a trackball with my left hand; now I'm using it to eat, brush my teeth, wash my hair, and even drive as much as I'm able to.

As a director, I don't have much time in the weekdays to proceed along with my own work. The entire day is spent overseeing other people, holding meetings, working on other proposals, making visits elsewhere and so on. If I can get everything squared away, then I can work on my own stuff, but most of the time there's just an overwhelming lack of time. Often I go in on my off-days to catch up on my own work, but with my body going on me like this, I have to cut these extra days out of my schedule and even with that I can't use my right arm very much to control things. If this disorder lingers, or if it never gets fixed, there's no telling what impact that would have on the project.

I've had to control two characters at once in a lot of game projects up to now, so as long as I keep it to simple moves, this works well enough. It doesn't go that easy with the Nintendo 3DS version, though, and the debug camera is pretty hard to control. Still, now I realize how important it is to have your health. I'm glad I'm still in good enough shape to work."

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=196943

Let's hope he gets better soon and this doesn't impact the game's development too much.

It would be pretty shit if the disease cost him his future in the industry. He's been around for a while, but if he had to retire in the near future I think he would leave a lot of work undone. It would be a real shame if his caliber of mad creativity would be unable to bring his imagination to life.

Oniros25

skeldare wrote: »

Since it's pretty much guaranteed that they're going to add Chrom, the question is which of the previous Fire Emblem characters will they keep? Marth is probably one of the more recognizable...

Minor Awakening Spoilers:

Plus they could now do something with the Marth/Lucina dichotomy like they did with Zelda/Sheik in the past potentially.

Warlock82

Gandalf_the_Crazed wrote: »

I wonder if we'll get a stage based on the Sealed Grounds from Skyward Sword. That could be fun.

Every so often the giant demon comes up and eats 90% of the stage :P

Oniros25

Warlock82 wrote: »

Gandalf_the_Crazed wrote: »

I wonder if we'll get a stage based on the Sealed Grounds from Skyward Sword. That could be fun.

Every so often the giant demon comes up and eats 90% of the stage :P

Or walks around the stage, dishing out random massive damage and is wide enough for fighters to duel on his head!

Warlock82

Oniros25 wrote: »

Warlock82 wrote: »

Gandalf_the_Crazed wrote: »

I wonder if we'll get a stage based on the Sealed Grounds from Skyward Sword. That could be fun.

Every so often the giant demon comes up and eats 90% of the stage :P

Or walks around the stage, dishing out random massive damage and is wide enough for fighters to duel on his head!

Ohh, that.... you can fight on his head, but sometimes he'll move and try to eat the people standing on him :P

Brainiac 8

You can down smash the seal on his nose to stop him from moving from time to time.

Brainiac 8

I really hope we get a gravity defying Mario Galaxy stage this time...and playable Rosalina!

Rubycat

I'm not so sure Nintendo would put Bayonetta in a new smash bros. (Brawl was rated T) Snake is a bit weird cause hes from an M rated game at the time (metal gear solid; and twin snakes was M as well and its more relevant probably), but Bayonetta? come on.