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Colouring in for anal adults - PICROSS THREAD!

LaveLave regular
edited April 2007 in Games and Technology
PLAY A VERSION HERE - I've done the first five.

So from about 7pm last night I've become completely addicted to PICROSS (aka Nonograms). They're awesome.

It's a bit like Soduku, if 1) Soduku was good, and 2) You got an awesomely shitty pixel art picture of a penguin at the end rather than some rubbish list of numbers.

I'm playing it in with Essential Soduku on the DS which is less than a tenner on amazon, under no circumstances can recognise your handwriting for the number 5, and has been woefully translated. However it also has 1000 Picross puzzles. And is thus an awesome game.

You have a grid with numbers at the top and bottom, that correspond to how many squares you need to fill in that row or column. For a 10x10 grid a number 10 at the top would mean color in the entire row. a 5 and a 3 would mean there is a block of 5 and a block of 3 somewhere in this row (that can't touch each other). Putting crosses where you've worked out their CAN'T be a block is the key to lots of satisfying nonsense.

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My new puzzling obssesion will (hopefully) decay over the next few days. But come on. Join me for the ride.
Lave wrote: »

The Rules of Picross

A little reminiscent of Minesweeper, the rules are simple.


(1) Squares are either filled or empty.

(2) The numbers before each row or on top of that column indicate exactly the pattern of filled squares in that row or column.

# For instance, if the number says "4", that means there are four filled squares in a row in that column, and the rest are empties.
# If the number says "4 5", that means there are four filled squares in a row in that column, some number of empty squares, and then five filled squares in a row (and then empties, in any squares are left).
# "2 1 2 1" means the pattern in that row is two filled squares, some number of empties, 1 filled square, some number of empties, 2 filled squares in a row, some number of empties, and then one filled square (and then empties, if any squares are left).
# And so on.

It's a logic puzzle; your goal is to figure out the position of filleds and empties in the whole grid. At the end of each level, you're rewarded with the semi-abstract picture you just uncovered.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    God I love these. I'm at work so I can't play at the moment, but I'm posting here so I can find this thread when I get home.

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Wow, I had no idea it had picross. I might pick this up now.

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  • TaximesTaximes Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Damn you and your viral addiction.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    moer liek minesweeper lol

    There is a Picross game for the DS too.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I made this one day years ago because someone on the forum asked me what picross was:

    http://mpierce.pie2k.com/picross.html

    Also, an easier warmup puzzle:

    http://mpierce.pie2k.com/picross2.html

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    Well.

    This...

    ....is something? What an odd and fucking cool concept.

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  • mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Sudoku's got nothing on Picross. <3

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2007
    Anyone got elementary strategy suggestions?

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    wait, how do I picross?

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  • LaveLave regular
    edited March 2007
    apotheos wrote: »
    Anyone got elementary strategy suggestions?

    Normally there is a full/empty column or row that you can immedietly fill with Black or Crosses (Crosses are essential to tell you were you have cleared). Then work around it. The 7 row must intersect as it's the only place it can fit etc.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picross - has a strategy guide - but its more fun to work it out on your own to be fair.

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  • TaximesTaximes Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    They go in order, right? If the side says 2 9 8 1, that means groups of 2, then 9, then 8, then 1, right? Otherwise I don't see how it's possible. :P

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  • LaveLave regular
    edited March 2007
    Moved to top...

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Speaking of puzzles with huge grids, anyone heard of Loop & Loop? They're sometimes sparsely found in Sudoku books, but I haven't had much luck finding them.

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  • LaveLave regular
    edited March 2007
    Taximes wrote: »
    They go in order, right? If the side says 2 9 8 1, that means groups of 2, then 9, then 8, then 1, right? Otherwise I don't see how it's possible. :P

    Yep. and the groups can't touch.

    I played it last night and It basically went:

    1st puzzle: What?
    2nd puzzle: Er, I think I get it?
    3rd puzzle: Why am I doing this?
    4th puzzle: I AM IN LOVE!

    The Essential Sudoku version is a bit different ihough. It has different colours. So that your little penguin say, can have a blue tie, and a pink beak. It rules.

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Did anyone ever play Mario Picross?

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    Looking back, I can't believe they released it in America.

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    You should all look for Mario's Picross for the original Game Boy. Not only is it Picross, but you get to make Mario pictures.

    EDIT: Holy shit, I thought I was the only one!

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  • LaveLave regular
    edited March 2007
    Mario pictures? Making a Picross of a "? Block" and so on?

    Fucking Yes

    EDIT: Did this get a European release? -- I'm off to ebay...

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  • LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Dammit, I have work to do today!

    :rotate:

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  • LaveLave regular
    edited March 2007
    Did anyone ever play Mario Picross?

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    Looking back, I can't believe they released it in America.

    I checked. American only as far as I can tell. Seems hard to get too, but there is a couple of copies on ebay. I'm very tempted - but far too skint.

    That and I figure I would be bidding against at least one person here...

    When the maddening addiction creaps in that is...

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  • AmygdalaAmygdala Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Fuck yes! Mario´s Picross is without a doubt my most played GameBoy game. I dare anyone to beat my record of 46 seconds in Time Trial mode.

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  • LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I got the first puzzle, but I think I solved the second one, but it doesnt look like much of anything too me...

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  • LaveLave regular
    edited March 2007
    LockeCole wrote: »
    I got the first puzzle, but I think I solved the second one, but it doesnt look like much of anything too me...

    Can't remember what they were now - how about we keep a solution list:

    Puzzle 1:
    American Football Helmet
    Puzzle 2:
    Floppy Disk?
    Puzzle 3:
    Puzzle 4:
    Puzzle 5:
    Palace?

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  • LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Lave wrote: »
    LockeCole wrote: »
    I got the first puzzle, but I think I solved the second one, but it doesnt look like much of anything too me...

    Can't remember what they were now - how about we keep a solution list:

    Puzzle 1:
    American Football Helmet
    Puzzle 2:
    Floppy Disk?
    Puzzle 3:
    Puzzle 4:
    Puzzle 5:
    Palace?

    Ah okay, I can kind of see puzzle 2 being that

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  • BallmanBallman Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Puzzle 6 is kinda tough.

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  • LaveLave regular
    edited March 2007
    Ballman wrote: »
    Puzzle 6 is kinda tough.

    Damn straight it is (keep tabbing to it, whilst trying to work).

    All i've worked out so far, is that all the ones labled 10+ must at least fill the middle 5 of the row/column. So that fills a lot in off the centre. Past that, I'm not sure yet (really need to work!)...

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  • BallmanBallman Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah, I've done that kind of thing on 6, and I've been able to "wiggle" extra spaces out of the middle by logicking around the numbers in the middle 7 or so columns/rows. I've got around half of the tiles x'd or blacked out, but I'm kinda stuck now.

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  • LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Also some of the number combinations will always take an entire row, for instance 11 1 1 must start at the beginning of a row, colour 11, skip 1, colour 1, skip 1, colour 1 = 15 squares. One you recognize some of these you can fill out some of the puzzles pretty quick.

    also, for higher numbers you can fill in more than the middle 5, 13 for example you can fill in the middle 5, plus 3 in each direction.

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  • SithDrummerSithDrummer Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    LockeCole wrote: »
    Dammit, I have work to do today!

    :rotate:
    Had. Don't worry, I'm in the same boat.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    It's a damn pity we only got the one Mario Picross, because there's a whole gaggle released in Japan. Including a few SNES versions too.

    Some people might not call this a real puzzle genre, because in most games, you get dinged if you make a mistake and clear a block that shouldn't. Thereby reducing the entire difficulty to trial and error if your memory is good. Which is where the Wario mode came into play. There's no indication, no error, no penalty if you make a mistake. Which is where the puzzle aspect and difficulty really shine. And it seems that's the rule base the link in the OP is using. Which makes it 100x more fun.

    Viva la picross! :)

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  • BallmanBallman Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Hey, I'm actually starting to get somewhere on 6. It almost looks like something.

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  • LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah I'm on 6 too, its... interesting, gonna take a break for lunch though.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Anyone who enjoys these sort of puzzles might enjoy visiting Puzzle Japan, which offers these, Sudoku, and several other logic-based puzzles. They can also frequently be found in GAMES Magazine; the current issue has a normal Picross (Paint By Numbers) as well as a triangle-based variant (Triptych Pics).

    EDIT: Puzzle Japan seems to be down at the moment. :(

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  • BallmanBallman Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Got it! Number 6 is:
    A ...camel...jockey?

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  • LaveLave regular
    edited March 2007
    It's a damn pity we only got the one Mario Picross, because there's a whole gaggle released in Japan. Including a few SNES versions too.

    Some people might not call this a real puzzle genre, because in most games, you get dinged if you make a mistake and clear a block that shouldn't. Thereby reducing the entire difficulty to trial and error if your memory is good. Which is where the Wario mode came into play. There's no indication, no error, no penalty if you make a mistake. Which is where the puzzle aspect and difficulty really shine. And it seems that's the rule base the link in the OP is using. Which makes it 100x more fun.

    Viva la picross! :)

    Essential Soduku's Picross section (which to be honest seems more developed than the soduku part) is a lot better than the flash game I linked. Better picture's for a start. It comes accross looking like homebrew - but it's really good.

    You get no info till you complete the whole puzzle (getting 'dinged' would ruin it). And it rates you for speed (good, medium, bad).

    It spilts the 1000 puzzles into ten groups of 100 so you would have to stuck on ten before you had no new ones to try.

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  • Rogers101Rogers101 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    On TylerK's Picross, does it tell you if you get it all worked out correctly? I'm pretty sure I've got #1 done, but it hasn't told me I have.

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  • LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Rogers101 wrote: »
    On TylerK's Picross, does it tell you if you get it all worked out correctly? I'm pretty sure I've got #1 done, but it hasn't told me I have.

    It does, the picture changes to solid black and white.

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  • Rogers101Rogers101 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    K, thanks.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Had an hour to kill at work, solved first seven:
    Lave wrote: »
    Can't remember what they were now - how about we keep a solution list:

    Puzzle 1:
    American Football Helmet
    Puzzle 2:
    Floppy Disk
    Puzzle 3:
    Palace
    Puzzle 4:
    Clock
    Puzzle 5 (fixed):
    Lock and Key
    Puzzle 6:
    Camel Jockey
    Puzzle 7:
    Elvis

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Puzzle 8:
    Africa

    Puzzle 9:
    Tetris

    Puzzle 10:
    Fish

    EDIT: Oh good.... hit a brick wall on Puzzle 11. As far as I can tell, it's unsolvable without guessing. yay

    EDIT: Got it through guessing.

    Puzzle 11:
    Butterfly .... here's an image because it makes no sense
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    Puzzle 12:
    The Sun

    Puzzle 13:
    a skunk

    Puzzle 14:
    a mouse

    Puzzle 15:
    a cemetery

    Puzzle 16:
    a lizard

    Puzzle 17:
    an ape

    Puzzle 18:
    a fisherman

    Puzzle 19:
    a microscope

    Puzzle 20:
    a strawberry

    Puzzle 21:
    a fossil

    Puzzle 22:
    a cockroach

    Puzzle 23:
    a hot air balloon

    Puzzle 24:
    it's a goddamn furry (I kid you not)

    Puzzle 25:
    a baseball player

    Puzzle 26:
    an old man

    Puzzle 27:
    a faucet

    Puzzle 28:
    a tadpole

    Puzzle 29:
    Captain Tragedy

    Puzzle 30:
    a deer

    Puzzle "Joke":
    LOL

    Puzzle "Winner":
    a trophy



    So... yeah, there's all of 'em. Man I <3 picross

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  • Spectral SwallowSpectral Swallow Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Wait, wait, wait, what's this essential Soduku? I gamefaq'd it but didn't see anything about it. What's the american name? I'm all kinds of a picross freak, I actually bought the Super Picross for SNES(after removing those two little tabs). There's just something addicting about picross(though I've never played Sodoku).

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