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Comouters hate me: More PC problems

BucketmanBucketman Call meSkraggRegistered User regular
edited March 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
First off, thank you all so much for all the help with my previous motherboard problem, I finally got it squared away. But of course, now I have a new problem. Whenever I use my PC now, after awhile it just freezes and restarts. Checking around the net, it looks as if these are the possible causes:

1) Incompatable RAM - Well I only have 1 stick and it was the same stick thats been in there since before the problem started

2) Non updated video card/BIOS - Updated the vid drivers last night, and I can't figure out how yo flash my BIOs (mostly I can't figure out how to use the damn tool they give me, its a DOS program...)

3) Over Heating - to me this seems most likely as the problem gets worse when I try to install/play a game. Yet, with all the air flow I have, 2 case fans, the heatsink fan, a fan on the video card, and just for shits and giggles right now I have an actual portable fan I use in my room blowing cold air on it.

Perhaps I don't have enough Thermal Paste on the processor or somthing? I'm not sure, but its really starting to piss me off. Any help would be greatly appricated. Thanks in advance.

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  • 3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    1) An easy way to tell if it's your RAM, is to get a small program called mem test. It's not likely that's your issue, but file it away for future use.

    2) It depends on how old your mobo is, but most motherboards have a jumper that you can clear that will flash your BIOS. There is also the option of removing your CMOS battery (it's the the thing that looks like a watch battery), but they can be a pain in the ass to change out. You'll have to RTFM for your mobo, since no mobo is built the same,or places it's BIOS jumpers in the same place.

    3) It's still a shot from the hip, but overheating can certainly be the cause of your woes. First, install this little program. It'll help keep track of temps inside your box. It has a built in range of temps, and can warn you if you're treading into dangerous territory.

    Freezing and restarting could be completely OS related however - Windows can certainly be a culprit here. Those diagnostics can help you eliminate suspect hardware, before moving onto the OS. Also, video cards can overheat as well, and they can sometimes lock up and reboot a PC. Just a thought.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    3lwap0 wrote: »
    1)
    2) It depends on how old your mobo is, but most motherboards have a jumper that you can clear that will flash your BIOS. There is also the option of removing your CMOS battery (it's the the thing that looks like a watch battery), but they can be a pain in the ass to change out. You'll have to RTFM for your mobo, since no mobo is built the same,or places it's BIOS jumpers in the same place.

    I had an issue with my MOBO a few weeks ago and RMAed it, they sent me a new one. So as far as I know, it didn't come pre updated.

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  • 3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Bucketman wrote: »
    I had an issue with my MOBO a few weeks ago and RMAed it, they sent me a new one. So as far as I know, it didn't come pre updated.

    Right, got it. Well sir, firmware updating is nice thing to do, but is hardly nesscary these days. I have yet to update mine in a long time, and it doesn't adversly affect my machines performance, and it damn sure doesn't lock it up.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    So what exactly is a normal temp for it to be running? Just idling with Firefox open put me at 82 F Case temp and 89 CPU. That seems hot to me, but I don't know whats normal.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Bucketman wrote: »
    So what exactly is a normal temp for it to be running? Just idling with Firefox open put me at 82 F Case temp and 89 CPU. That seems hot to me, but I don't know whats normal.

    That's about 30 degrees Celsius, which seems fine. I usually only start worrying when mine gets over 50.

    However, did you just start the computer up? How long has it been running? Try running it with the side of the case off, and maybe a fan blowing at it, see how long it lasts.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Even older socket A AMD chips didn't redline until 65-70c

    With better heatspreading technology and better stock fans i'd say raise an eyebrow to anything over 50c.

    89 Fahrenheit is nothing.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    So, just tried to install Burning Crusade again. No temp increase, but it froze again. Come to think of it, it just seems to happen when installing somthing from CD or playing games...

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  • 3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    How fresh is your OS install?

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    3lwap0 wrote: »
    How fresh is your OS install?

    about 6 monthd old

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    False alarm, I thought it was fixed, but no such luck actually. Just random freezes still. I thought it was only when I was using my CD Drive, but it just randomly did while I was searching around the interweb looking for a solution.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I'd try to get a video driver update if you haven't already. Video card probs can cause some spectacular OS failures. What kind of card do you have?

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Nvidia GeForce 6600, and I just updated the device drivers for the card.

    Checking around the net someone mentioned turning Hardware Acceleration off. I did that, still waiting to see what happens there. Also I've heard it could be an incompatibility issue with the graphics card, if thats the case then updating my BIOS should help. But i've never done that before and have heard its risky.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Nvidia GeForce 6600, and I just updated the device drivers for the card.

    Checking around the net someone mentioned turning Hardware Acceleration off. I did that, still waiting to see what happens there. Also I've heard it could be an incompatibility issue with the graphics card, if thats the case then updating my BIOS should help. But i've never done that before and have heard its risky.

    Not really as long as you follow the instructions.

    Might want to try running memtest too.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Well my MOBO provider dosen't really provide instructions. Do you just put the utility and the .rom file on a floppy and boot from the floppy drive?


    Edit: also barring a floppy disk, if I can't find one, is there a way to run Memtest/update my BIOS with a CD? (I have a CD burner)

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