So, Ancient Dark Dragon Master has a lilith which hits for 12k+ every turn.
I doubt a resolve team would reach lilith (right before that is a dual chimera room)
Even a resist/auto healer is looking iffy. Can I really heal 6k every single turn without fail? I doubt it.
Odin/auto healer? Will be annihilated by chimeras if they both double strike.
Odin/resist? Might work. Should make the amount of healing you have to do on floors 9 and 10 pretty trivial.
Should be able to survive dual strike from the chimeras if they are synched up (all damage halved, first 10k reduced by 80%)
Might be tough to get enough healing. Will definitely want a siren/sub.
Anyone tried such a team?
Double resist with an Echidna sub will do it. I'm leaving up my Minerva since she can still attack, but I can always put up Hades if anyone needs the 60%.
On my very last run of Ancient Light Dragon, I got both a Pteras and a Cupid, neither of which I really wanted that much. *annoyed*
At least I got enough Moltdras to get my Amaterasu to 50 so I can evolve her, and got my light ripper to level 50 or so, so not much further to go for the final form.
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Things that make me rage: a king dragon appearing on the first stage with a little one...and the little one drops. Every. Single. Time.
so, how does one sideload the JP version.
oh, and this dark dragon sucks, especially when your light friend that give 2X HP and ATK to dragons gets bound...
but it seems the second teir (expert?) can be done with a resit and ADK leads
oh, should i go underlord arch hades or underlord inferno (go, as in which should i busty evolve my hades into)
The team I beat Master with (and got the dragon whoo!) was a maxed out black ripper as lead with a friend's Underlord Inferno Hades, a red, yellow, and green ripper, and max evo green golem for hp and the defense ability if needed. I had the 2 chimeras synced up, and still had no issues healing. It was slow going, but safety really was no issue.
Before that, I had a max evo Neptune instead of the Hades, and was going along fine with no issues until I hit the chimeras. I had killed one, then the one living one did his stupid bind on both the black ripper and the Neptune, wiping me out. Other than that, that team was going along fine as well.
so, how does one sideload the JP version.
oh, and this dark dragon sucks, especially when your light friend that give 2X HP and ATK to dragons gets bound...
but it seems the second teir (expert?) can be done with a resit and ADK leads
oh, should i go underlord arch hades or underlord inferno (go, as in which should i busty evolve my hades into)
which evo to go on Hades really depends. What kind of team do you normally use? If you have a good mono-dark team I'd go Dark/Dark, if you use an Isis or Horus team I'd go Dark/Light.
Ya on master I had the chimera bind both leaders and wipe me... the dark dungeon seemed to bind me a lot more than light dungeon... probably won't try master again until weekend and try to level some of my monsters.
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Does anyone have blue resist for me? Could even be a marin, I don't care.
So I finally ground out enough cash to evolve the Devil Dragon to Chaos Devil Dragon. It's up as my leader if anyone wants to use it. Send me friend requests- I'll be clearing randoms for PA people as I get requests!
Scared about 2x drops this week on the Ancient Dark and Legendary Green dragons since that didn't happen this past weekend. Looks like I'll be spending a lot of Stamina in both places during the week. Looking for the big dragons, plus a D'Spinas and Green Ripper, which still eludes me.
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If i do the ultimate evolution on my Moondragon D'Spinas when he attacks does it count as one strike or two?
I believe it is two, but trying to make sure if I understand correctly. For like mask hunting if I have ultimate evo Moondragon + dark/dark hades and I match one set of dark orbs it counts as 4 hits.
I have dark leader so just wondering if would be a waste to ultimate evolve my D'Spinas. I am hoping by the weekend to have my Hades evolved (hes 40/50) and turn him into dark/dark. Than can work on my persephone or other Hades.
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Seems like a waste of materials to ulti-evolve your D'Spinas if you have a Persephone. I'm only trying to get one because my other option is Vamp Lord and I'd rather have the ability to get 2x atk/rcv if I ever decide to work on my Dark Team (ofc, once I get him I'm sure I'll pull some sweet dark god from the REM...not that I'd be upset about that, haha).
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@Smoogy it does seem like a waste of materials right now lol. From what I have seen though is later on for the high defense monsters that extra hit can come in handy, but I probably wont do it right now. I have to many other things I can use the materials on right now.
So if I get my persephone, dark/dark hades, dark/dark D'Spinas, ADK, dark/dark lucifier. Than a friends dark/dark hades.... with one orb match I can hit 10 times.
I don't have a shiva and I got like 2 friends with shiva, I have yet to try shiva in a hard dungeon. My biggest problem is making sure to wipe the monsters with my lower level ones.
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Thanks for all the water resist leaders everyone who put one up for me.
man i can never seem to do well on RK. i either build for the dark and i get wiped by the blue stuff or i build for both and get one shotted by the RK
Yeah, RK either needs a resolve/autohealer combo, or an Odin/resist, or Odin/Autohealer combo.
The resolve autohealer combo also needs a good bit of HP for clearing the first 3 waves, because murphys law says that you will get a 4 knight spawn where 3 of them will synch up.
I had the most success with an odin lead. My biggest problem was being heart starved the first time through. After that I brought the one monster to change light to heart and was ok, than it was just me forgeting to heal back to full health so the RK would ko me.
I just did a mono dark team with odin friend, can do any mono color team that you have a good leader for, the big thing is trying to get high RCV.
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Autohealer/Resolve doesn't need HP if you have 2-3 rippers in their final form. My standard RK team is my Orochi, 3 rippers and a high-skill demon, plus auto-healer. You charge your ripper skills on round 1 and then you can sweep round 2 and 3. Round 3 is the hardest so even if you haven't fully charged by round 2, you should be ok.
I know other people have different strategies, but since everyone needs fully evo'd rippers anyway this one works well and is something you should be building towards anyway. Can swap ogre/titan for Orochi, ofc.
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Ack, need two more light keepers, but everytime I do RK the dark keeper spawns, not that I don't need a ton of those too, but I'd prefer to evolve my light team. :P
For Master Ancient Dark Dragon, dual dark resist is good (bring a hades, not a neptune, boss is immune to status ailments)
Also bring along a green/light healer for the RCV, and an echidna for panic button (viper orochi will not get to attack - no water orbs) and a rainbow keeper for those inevitable "oops, he bound both my resist leaders!" moments.
My problem with Master Ancient Dark Dragon is I can not fit a rainbow keeper on my team unless I want to take 5 hours to clear the dungeon. My first attempt on Master I used a dub-mythlit for the HP boost and RCV and used my harpie demon.
I have changed my team slightly to get off some light members and have more fire team. Still use light ripper though.
I have yet to get a red, green, or blue ripper from drop or pull. I have gotton 2 or 3 dark rippers that I sold because I have Hades and the toy joker (2nd form, not final). So figured it was a waste for me to have a dark ripper.
I have cleared Expert twice right now and on my third time through. Last time I got a level and now can have a team cost of 68.
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Even if you get the Toy Dragon, you still will want the ripper dragon. The rippers have much better attack stat growth, and their nuke in their final form charges up in just 15 turns at level 1.
Wait I thought ancient dark dragon was white/red/green. Wouldn't having RK on top of the 2 dark resist monsters really cut into your ability to deal with the normal stages?
Not really given that they all do dark damage and so hit for peanuts past your dual resist.
You can always charge your ripper nukes on the first round if you are worried.
Also...it's basically a tri color dungeon (light/red/green/hearts)
So it's easy to get tons and tons of combos. I would just try to get a 5 match for light orbs and then stack lots of other random colors/hearts for extra damage. I didn't find my damage output on the trash waves to be much of a problem. I spent way more time fighting the bosses.
I guess it would be faster with another light monster instead of RK but it wouldn't be safer.
Now...one thing you could do, is if you have a susano, bring that instead. Or a green golem. I don't have those though.
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Double resist with an Echidna sub will do it. I'm leaving up my Minerva since she can still attack, but I can always put up Hades if anyone needs the 60%.
At least I got enough Moltdras to get my Amaterasu to 50 so I can evolve her, and got my light ripper to level 50 or so, so not much further to go for the final form.
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Now i only want/need a succubus and the green/light/dark rippers.
oh, and this dark dragon sucks, especially when your light friend that give 2X HP and ATK to dragons gets bound...
but it seems the second teir (expert?) can be done with a resit and ADK leads
oh, should i go underlord arch hades or underlord inferno (go, as in which should i busty evolve my hades into)
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Before that, I had a max evo Neptune instead of the Hades, and was going along fine with no issues until I hit the chimeras. I had killed one, then the one living one did his stupid bind on both the black ripper and the Neptune, wiping me out. Other than that, that team was going along fine as well.
which evo to go on Hades really depends. What kind of team do you normally use? If you have a good mono-dark team I'd go Dark/Dark, if you use an Isis or Horus team I'd go Dark/Light.
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Oops, actually it needs to be a blue blue resist. Anyone?
It'll be 10-15 before I can get to my phone, but I'll put up my Neptune for you.
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I believe it is two, but trying to make sure if I understand correctly. For like mask hunting if I have ultimate evo Moondragon + dark/dark hades and I match one set of dark orbs it counts as 4 hits.
I have dark leader so just wondering if would be a waste to ultimate evolve my D'Spinas. I am hoping by the weekend to have my Hades evolved (hes 40/50) and turn him into dark/dark. Than can work on my persephone or other Hades.
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Also got the Dark Keeper i need to evolve my Lucifer to Seraphim of Dawn (when i get the white dub-lith thingy and the mask).
Hopefully i'll get another 1 or 2 Rainbows to i replace all my dub-mythlits.
WTB moar stamina Tempted to use a stone to replenish it.
So if I get my persephone, dark/dark hades, dark/dark D'Spinas, ADK, dark/dark lucifier. Than a friends dark/dark hades.... with one orb match I can hit 10 times.
I don't have a shiva and I got like 2 friends with shiva, I have yet to try shiva in a hard dungeon. My biggest problem is making sure to wipe the monsters with my lower level ones.
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Yeah, RK either needs a resolve/autohealer combo, or an Odin/resist, or Odin/Autohealer combo.
The resolve autohealer combo also needs a good bit of HP for clearing the first 3 waves, because murphys law says that you will get a 4 knight spawn where 3 of them will synch up.
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I just did a mono dark team with odin friend, can do any mono color team that you have a good leader for, the big thing is trying to get high RCV.
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I know other people have different strategies, but since everyone needs fully evo'd rippers anyway this one works well and is something you should be building towards anyway. Can swap ogre/titan for Orochi, ofc.
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Very safe, and fairly fast.
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Also bring along a green/light healer for the RCV, and an echidna for panic button (viper orochi will not get to attack - no water orbs) and a rainbow keeper for those inevitable "oops, he bound both my resist leaders!" moments.
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I have changed my team slightly to get off some light members and have more fire team. Still use light ripper though.
I have yet to get a red, green, or blue ripper from drop or pull. I have gotton 2 or 3 dark rippers that I sold because I have Hades and the toy joker (2nd form, not final). So figured it was a waste for me to have a dark ripper.
I have cleared Expert twice right now and on my third time through. Last time I got a level and now can have a team cost of 68.
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You can always charge your ripper nukes on the first round if you are worried.
Also...it's basically a tri color dungeon (light/red/green/hearts)
So it's easy to get tons and tons of combos. I would just try to get a 5 match for light orbs and then stack lots of other random colors/hearts for extra damage. I didn't find my damage output on the trash waves to be much of a problem. I spent way more time fighting the bosses.
I guess it would be faster with another light monster instead of RK but it wouldn't be safer.
Now...one thing you could do, is if you have a susano, bring that instead. Or a green golem. I don't have those though.
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Still need to do the blue and green keeper stages for the stone but that can be left for next week. Need the stamina for tomorrow.