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_J_
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZFZtG8rQMWhat the hell is this?
Puzzle & Dragons is a game for Android and iPhone. It combines the gameplay of Bejeweled / Puzzle Quest with the monster collection / leveling / evolving component of games like pokemon. There are 400 monsters to collect.
Holy fuck that's awesome! How much does it cost?
It's free to download, install, and play. You can spend money on some features of the game, but that is not necessary.
Will it steal my soul?
Your soul shall remain intact, but your legs may go numb from the hours you unintentionally spend on the toilet leveling your pokeymans and grinding dungeons.
Are there any helpful links for this game?
SomethingAwful.com P&D thread
pad.wikia.com
Puzzledragonx Database
Puzzle & Dragons Global Wiki
Monsters Beginners Should Farm For
Efficient Power Up Fusions
Official Facebook Page
Puzzle & Dragon Simulator
Do other people from the forums play this game? Can I have their friend codes?
Of course! (pm @_J_ to have your code listed)!!
We should all put "@PA" at the end of our names to make it easier to spot a friend invite for members here. If you don't know how to edit your name after creating it, it is under the options menu and I think it says "change name".
Active: (June 11, 2013)
_J_: 330,642,248
38thDoE: 371,143,246
Abotkin: 354,746,246
Ataxrxes (Atax@PA, tablet): 339,640,283
Ataxrxs@PA: 384,245,244
Avynte: 358,434,292
Betsuni (Bets@PA/PF): 362,432,296
Blendtec: 359,541,286
Chomp-Chomp (Chomp@PA): 313,845,249
Cokebottle (Potato@PA): 352,441,246
Darkewolfe (Lonenut): 305,648,233
Darunia106 (J-bob@PA): 320,347,279
Derangedhermit (hermit@PA): 351,452,209
Elementalor: 335,641,242
ElementWrath (Element): 323,042,292
Elentari (Smoogy's Lady): 374,748,269
Evenstar (Evnstar@PA): 338,349,279
Gaardean: 300,346,233
Gdiguy: 308,330,299
Gjaustin: 376,948,248
Gnome-Interruptus (Adamski@PA): 313,842,296
Jakarrd: 331, 944, 231 -> 304,356,221
Kai_San (KlineS@PA): 345,558,218
Kick_04 (kick): 346,240,298
Koan: 312,749,278
Kristmas Kthulhu (Kthulhu@PA): 327,549,261
kz201: 354,443,277
LostGnome (NoGnome@PA): 332,052,204
Loxx: 348,341,242 -> 344,041,257
Lubony (Rog@pa@pf): 394,445,242
Madpanda (madpand@PA): 338,752,232
Maguano: 326,844,242
MetalMagus: 389,739,294
Mighty: 332,454,224
Mts (sigmund@pa): 383,242,232
Mts (tablet account): 340, 543,265
Nabob: 345,244,262
Ninbebe (38thDoe's wife): 396,541,242
Nova_C@PA: 337,450,214
Pookiepoo (Pookie@PA): 324,146,259
Rothgarr: 312,938,287
Saphier (Errant@PA): 395,549,298
ScudMuffin (Scud@PA): 324,241,213
Shalmelo: 382,045,257
Skippymchaggis (Sindahl-PA): 310,341,245
Smoogy (Smoogy@PA): 376,540,262
Spoit: 353,846,281
Squid56: 398,246,252
TannerMS: 392.245.259
Tbloxham (garion): 314,851,200
TheKoolEagle (Keagle@PA): 361, 549, 249
theSquid (squid@PA): 324,847,252
Thor1590: 338,745,258
Toscabo (Aravan@PA): 376,450,212
Verbose: 370,340,244
Vorpal: 342,649,257
Waterboard (water@pa): 313,759,220
Weenog42 (Weenog): 356,255,207
Zanshinretsu (Zan@PA): 341,046,231
Unknown Status: (May 16, 2013)
Abotkin's wife: 356,845,243
Blackjack: 359,843,240
cabbie98: 341,944,240
Calidrea@PA (SniperGuy's fiancee): 362,744,246
Darmak: 365,340,236
Dranyth: 389,647,247
Entaru (Pheny@PA): 329,943,257
JaysonFour (Jayson@PA): 393, 247, 277
Lost: 346,040,268
Meowmix (Cokebottle's GF): 367,944,245
Slurpeepoop (slurpee@PA): 306,944,230
TheRoadVirus: 397,846,254
Inactive: (June 5, 2013)
DaringDirk (DDirk@PA): 397,549,242
DrCongo: 377,146,237
Gnome-Interruptus (Adamski@PA): 302,145,297
Jimbo: 334,241,234
Mahnmut (jericho@PA): 38,643,242 -> 306,341,259
Ringswraith (wraith@PA): 370,947,240
R0land1188 (Roland@PA): 307,843,257
SniperGuy: 368,347,248
Syphyre@PA: 313,647,250
This sounds great, but are there any shitty / terrible aspects of the game I should know before I download it?
Players are currently unable to transfer their teams to other devices. So, if you buy a new phone, you have to start over.
Also, the game finds your battery to be delicious, and so tends to eat it.
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If so, The MEtal Dragons dungeon is up for 45 minutes.
hmmm maybe I am just an idiot. only thing I showed ending that quickly was the friday dungeon, in another 3 hours.
There's actually a schedule to the limited time dungeons, PuzzledragonX just started listing them recently, on the right side of the page. The third digit of your friend code determines which group you're part of (0=A, 1=B, 2=C, etc.). Been really enjoying this game, it has all the worst aspects of gotta-catch-em-all and match-3 rolled into one addictive package.
Very good to know.
For those of you who have been playing for a while, does the game ever level out so you begin to outlevel / outcoin / outstone most of the content and it's just mindless farming, or does it remain a struggle for a while? I'm trying to use the monsters I catch to level my main team, but I find myself short on coins.
Also it would be helpful to note if someone's P&D name is significantly different from their forum name, hard to sift through all these friend requests and you only start with so much room. =(
Also can you friend between iOS and Android?
FFBE: 898,311,440
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/dElementalor
The weekend dungeon is pretty good for earning coins. It's expensive in Stamina, and you don't get any monster drops, but running it a few times over the weekend I have found will net you with 150k coins or so. Enough to see the week out. At my level anyway. I'm rank 18 right now, so not sure how I compare with you guys.
There's a *lot* of content, plus a patch that's probably dropping this month that's adding a good bit more. I've been playing for 3 weeks now (rank 58), and I'm not even half-way through the dungeons, though you will find yourself having to stop and grind exp and coin every so often before you can handle the next tier of dungeons. One tip for saving coin, always fuse your creatures 5 at a time, preferably 5 of the same color as that creature (you get 50% more exp for fusing same-color creatures), since the cost to feed them goes up for every level they have. Also, don't bother fusing any creatures labeled "evo material" as they give very little exp and will just eat up your cash, save them for evolving your creatures, or just sell them.
I'm started hitting a wall and slowing down in progress, lately. I need a red knight for my all red team, a green "heart to green" for my all green team, and a lil blue dragon for my all dragon team.
If you're talking about the King Metal dragon, that's actually a bad idea, because they're worth 50k exp when fused to something (and the smaller Metal Dragon doesn't sell for that much).
Leveling
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=303
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=305
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=307
What you want to do is in the bottom level in each tech dungeon (I can't remember the names off the top of my head right now but they're the first level in each color dungeon).
Now here's the optimizing part.
You know those cute chimera's you get in there? Yeah you want to level them to level 7-8. Which involves taking one of them and powering up on another. OR you could also take one of those cute carbuncles you get in there and toss it on the chimera. Then take that chimera that is level 7-8 and toss it on the pengdra which maxes the pengdra. Then toss them on to your monster of choice (make sure you toss the same color pengdra on the same color monster to get the best exp gain).
This is good, but to make it even better you should evolve the pengdra (which evolves at a max level which is nice) which involves one dragon tail and two little jewel dragons of the same color. These are the best leveling critters next to the "king" jewel dragons. Unfortunately for those who are leveling white or black, they haven't released the tech dungeons with these little pengdras yet (these are coming out in the next patch at the end of March).
"Ripper" Dragons
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=21
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=24
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=27
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=30
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=33
Plus at the max evolution they do an incredible damage attack.
Skill Leveling
Zombie group
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=64
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=66 <- best one to optimize your combos.
Or the Viper Orochi
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=134
Why you want to use these? It is because of their leader ability. The ogres need 70% of your health while the Orochi needs 50% and the damage done to you doesn't kill you but leave you at 1 HP. Then you want to have a healer on the other side to heal you with one match to more than 70% of your health.
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=202
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=203 <- best one to optimize your combos.
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=204
Then for the rest of your team you want to use these little buggers.
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=152
This is why I said to try and get green healers and ogre, this way you match one set of 3 green and hit the mask/spirits with 5 1's (the reason you are using this is because no matter how much damage you do to these higher masks and spirits all damage is reduced to 1).
Now what you want to do is try to pray to the programmer of PaG that the random monster attackers do not have the same timer to attack you. If they do then you need to focus on one and kill it quick. Then you want to play around trying to make your screen have a green layout like this before going.
GXXXXG
XXXXXX
XXGGXX
GGXXGG
GGXXGG
Where G - Green Orb and X is anything.
This way the next round of monsters you can just drop the top G orbs straight down each turn and hit 5x's then move the middle G orbs to the left then right and have 4 straight attacks which will kill off one at least in 4 rounds (which is before one kills you).
Now a great twist on this tactic is to remove one of those "tailless dragon seeds" and swap in a lilith.
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=96
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=97
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=205
To use this tactic you need to match enough orbs in the first or second round without killing the spirits/masks to get Lilith skill ready to use. Then use her poison skill on the last round spirits/masks to one shot them. The more you have in your team the better since if you have 3 in your group then you really have it easy since you can blow through the tougher rounds of spirits/masks.
A twist to the zombie group
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=236
Skill: The Third Eye
Effects: Void enemies' DEF during one turn
( Reduce Enemies Def to 0 for 1 turn; Effects carry forward on sweep )
The carry forward is the part that is useful. Just make sure you kill the monsters before they hit you and you're golden. You can take any monsters with you and don't have to worry about the zombie group.
There are some other hints I have, but these are the best I can think of right now.
Steam: betsuni7
4 bars and connected to my wireless is apparently not a strong enough signal.
For the zombie groups, swapping out a dragon seed or two for hobgoblins for their active skill can be a life-saver as well should you get a wave with several synchronized masks.
Spending Magic Stones
So, as you accumulate stones, what do you use them for? A few things, actually:
Full Refill of your Stamina Bar
A "continue" in a dungeon after you've been killed
Buy 5 more monster boxes
Spend 5 stones to pull a random monster from the rare gacha
Let's talk about each one.
Refilling your stamina seems like a waste, but careful use of this option can pay big dividends. First, the obvious use would be to take full advantage of limited time dungeons. Gold Dragon dungeons, for example, are 24 hour dungeons like the Metal Dragons, but they're far, far more rare. They're also worth a ton of XP and gold. There's also a more long-term use of buying stamina.
You may have noticed that when you level up you'll earn either more "monster points" (each monster is worth a certain amount of points, with more powerful ones costing more, you can't field a team of super monsters until you're very high level), a new friend slot, or an increase in your max stamina. Some dungeons, when cleared, give you more experience than others. Prioritizing those dungeons can help you level up faster, thereby increasing your max stamina, thereby allowing you to naturally run dungeons more often, which gives you more experience and monsters.
Continuing in a dungeon should be done very rarely. It's way to easy to burn stones this way. Only consider continuing if 1) you got a very rare or needed drop earlier in the dungeon and you don't want to lose it and 2) you're pretty confident you can clear the rest of the dungeon. Say, if you're going to kill the last boss in only 2 more turns? Good use! The boss wipes the floor with you and you barely put a dent in him? Maybe come back later.
Buying more monster boxes is a must. Space this out with other uses of your stones. Simply put, you're going to get more monsters and you're going to need somewhere to put them all. Even worse, to evolve many of your more powerful monsters you'll need very rare Evo materials, like dubmythlits or mystic masks. When you get these drops you'll want to hold on to them for the future, which can fill up your storage pretty quickly. Try not to be too much of a hoarder though, sell or fuse crappy monsters you don't need or use - don't obsess over "catching them all." They'll all be recorded in your Monster Book anyways (under the Others option).
Rolling for more monsters in the rare gacha is the MOST DANGEROUS part of using stones, because you are LITERALLY "chasing the dragon." You can earn Super Rare 5 star or even 6 star monsters in the gacha, and some of the most powerful and useful monsters can only be obtained through the rare gacha. Very Tempting! But, you can also pull shitty 3 star monsters that you can find as regular drops in the dungeons. In fact, I'd say that's what you're more likely to pull. So, what to do?
Horde your stones and wait for special "rare gacha" events. Gung Ho tweaks the drop rates on certain monsters to coincide with certain holidays, events, or seasons. Keep an eye out for "god fests" ultra-special events where god monsters (the most powerful of all the monsters) are more likely to drop.
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Get a Healer
The leader skill of all three - Rondo of Healing, automatically heals you for 3x their RCV stat anytime you make a match. Very useful! In fact, only the god Amaterasu Ohkami has a better ability (her's heals for 5x her RCV). But, all 3 have different active skills, and Sirens is the best. She turns red gems into heal gems, which can be saved on your board for emergencies - unlike Angel and Alraune, who are 1 time heals. Siren's ability is also super easy to level up. Marine Goblins share her ability, and there's a ton of those things in the mid-level water dungeons, just keep feeding her goblins until she maxes out her skill and you can use it every 5 matches.
Most Valuable Monsters
Healers - Amaterasu Ohkami, Siren the Enchanter
Big Damage - Ancient Dragon Knight (2.5 damage for dragons, double on leader + friend on a ripper team for huge damage)
All Around Boost - Lakshmi, Pavarti (like the ADK, but includes health and recovery, for water and earth monsters respectively)
Def Breaker - Shiva
Zombie Team - Orochi, Gigas, or an ogre
High Def Team - Green Odin (there's a blue Odin and green one. With green Odin as a leader, when your health is full, all damage is reduced by 80%! That's only for the first hit though [since the second hit comes when you're not at 100% health]. An alternative to the Zombie team that allows you to field more powerful monsters.
That's all I can think of for now, see you in the dungeons!
I've noticed this during the "God Days" I've noticed that it is almost a 1 in 6/7 drops. What that means is that if you have a ton of Pal Egg Machine pulls you go and waste 5-6 pulls on that machine and then pull one Rare Egg machine and it tends to drop a gold egg. I usually store up about 40 or so Pal Egg pulls before trying this and test my theory. I pull about 15 pulls on the Pal Egg to count how many it takes before a gold egg or silver egg drops. Sorta like counting cards and it isn't a 100% guarantee but it is a good thing to test on "God Days".
Steam: betsuni7
This weekend dungeon is tits. Double coins and it's quite easy to farm the lowest one.
Just let me know if you're PA and friend me so I can make you a favorite. I tend to clear out low level players from my friends lists otherwise.
Steam: betsuni7
Agreed. I was so strapped for cash when I started that I almost put the game down. Then my first weekend dungeon popped, and now I feel like Scrooge McDuck.
My team currently looks like this:
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=317
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=318
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=211
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=214
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=215
My Team's HP is over 14,000 so it's pretty resilient. If there's one single Monster that has consistently helped me in most dungeons that I most often use when picking a friend it's:
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=202
There are variations for the other colors, too.
This has allowed me to complete all the Technical Dungeons.
My ID is 312,938,287. My friends list currently has all 50 slots full but I can surely clear out some room for some PA'ers...
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On back-up I have:
When you first start playing you might get something decent compared to your level but as you get up in rank 99% of the stuff is junk you just sell because it's crap or isn't worth feeding to other monsters because the XP it adds it too small compared to the cost.
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Steam: betsuni7
You pulled the Shiva after the tutorial, didn't you...
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Steam: betsuni7
Yeah, I rerolled like 6 times on Betsuni's advice to get out from under some terrible pulls.
Is my team still so terrible?
I'm thinking about popping a rare egg right now during the fire event.
Watch my music videos
Damn it. Now I feel like I need to reroll or else i'm forever doomed.
From the last couple of comments, I'm guessing I was lucky to have pulled a Minerva from the forced Rare Machine pull after the tutorial? I just finished that up, so I haven't tried her out yet, but her stats look fantastic compared to the starter stuff I have.
As a bunch of people have explained in various places, the only time you can guarantee yourself a good roll is your first pull. I spent about an hour rolling to get the Shiva.
Of course, since then my pulls have been crap, lol.