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MOTW 3/13/13: Hmmmm.....

TexiKenTexiKen Dammit!That fish really got me!Registered User regular
Uncanny #3, X-Men and Avengers get into a staring contest:
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Manhattan Projects #10, if this doesn't win an Eisner this year Ima punch some people. Robert Oppenheimer deal with the crazy of his brother, and he punches a horse!
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Buddy Cops #1, Nate Cosby makes what is basically a more mature Axe Cop. Funny stuff that can work as a nice breather every season or so. Talk down an Orangutan Monk with a nuke, or deal with being impregnated by an alien, it's all here:
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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    Man, I hate this new cyclops.

    Being a civil rights activist and part of an oppressed minority doesn't make you immune to the rule of law.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    fuck cyclops

  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    uncle xaviers, the lot of you.

    edit: it was pointed out in the issue that it was Iron Man who unwillingly made them Phoenixes in the first place.

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  • LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    I kind of hate Cyclops's new look. The helmet looks really impractical and alienates him even more than usual. It's the look of a super villain.

    Also the constant crossing of his arms makes him look like he's a LARPer maintaining invisibility.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I like activist Cyclops

    but those pages are pretty bad

    we took out the Avengers without lifting a finger! Fear our mighty plot device!

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    The fact that nobody says "hey you know Cyclops was being mind controlled by the Phoenix is maybe important" is also totally weak

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    Probably because the Phoenix doesn't mind control you, it just removes your inhibitions.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    what

    are you high

    of course removing your inhibitions is mind control,

    it's a deep and profound alteration of how your mind works

    the removal of self control from someone means that they cannot help but act on any urge they have

    you can't then blame them for anything they do

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    I dunno, to me "mind control" is one mind being controlled by another mind

    if you're drunk and hit your significant other, do you blame it on mind control?

  • Mego ThorMego Thor "I say thee...NAY!" Registered User regular
    Only if you're Henry Pym.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    the Phoenix is doing the control

    it's removing the inhibitions

    that's a form of control, or at least alteration, which is at least just as bad

    also that is not the same thing. Like, at all

    don't be silly

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Anyway what other comics have been good this week!

  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    I support Cyclops.

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Haven't gotten to my comics yet ( riding around all day jonesing for them tho), but first motw was knowing this exists, ( Sadly the site in the picture has no info that I can find,and google search just turns up other people wanting it as bad as I do)

    Who knew you could want a desk lamp this bad
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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Solar wrote: »
    The fact that nobody says "hey you know Cyclops was being mind controlled by the Phoenix is maybe important" is also totally weak

    That's the kind of thing you need to bring up during your trial where you have plead innocent. It does not give you Carte Blanche it ignore the entire legal system. And really, "the Phoenix made him do it" is a fantastic defense for a guy who wanted the Phoenix to show up and intentionally got in the way of the guys who were trying to stop it.

    Undead Scottsman on
  • Undead MonkeyUndead Monkey Anchorage, AKRegistered User regular
    Haven't gotten to my comics yet ( riding around all day jonesing for them tho), but first motw was knowing this exists, ( Sadly the site in the picture has no info that I can find,and google search just turns up other people wanting it as bad as I do)

    Who knew you could want a desk lamp this bad
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    I'm guessing that's custom made? WHY WOULD YOU SHOW MY NO-ARTISTIC-TALENT-HAVING-ASS SOMETHING THAT AMAZING!?!?

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Thinking about it, i'm more bothered that Cyclops is the one they want more for killing someone in a big battle, whereas Emma straight up kills a civilian in his own house for something he did decades ago.

    Or Namor but I guess you have issues with sovereignty and international diplomacy and blah blah.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Thinking about it, i'm more bothered that Cyclops is the one they want more for killing someone in a big battle, whereas Emma straight up kills a civilian in his own house for something he did decades ago.
    Nobody knows she did that though.

    But yeah, fuck Cyclops. I really hope he gets whats coming to him and this all blows up in his face, the self righteous prick.

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    Batman: Li'l Gotham #7 reveals one of the long-hidden secrets in Batman's Bat-arsenal:
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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Thinking about it, i'm more bothered that Cyclops is the one they want more for killing someone in a big battle, whereas Emma straight up kills a civilian in his own house for something he did decades ago.
    Nobody knows she did that though.

    I'm sure the police know.

    The coroner too.

    Oh and the dude's family who were sitting right there when it happened.

    But yeah that kind of thing just never comes up unless it happens in public with cameras and stuff.

  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    Selina had no idea the Batmobile had a back seat? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    The fact that nobody says "hey you know Cyclops was being mind controlled by the Phoenix is maybe important" is also totally weak

    That's the kind of thing you need to bring up during your trial where you have plead innocent. It does not give you Carte Blanche it ignore the entire legal system. And really, "the Phoenix made him do it" is a fantastic defense for a guy who wanted the Phoenix to show up and intentionally got in the way of the guys who were trying to stop it.

    I would think the legal system would be sorta complicated here.

    I would think Cyclops renounced his american citizenship when he went and built his own country.

    Anyway in Ultimate Wolverine Black box and Quicksilver make long overdue reappearances.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    If Cyclops renounced his American Citizenship, then at best he's an international criminal for murdering a US citizen.

  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    though if he was ambassador for utopia he woul dhave diplomatic immunity

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  • sweetcreamscoopssweetcreamscoops Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Anyway what other comics have been good this week!

    Threshold, for the love of God, READ THRESHOLD!

  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Same deal as a Head of State, I believe

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    mts wrote: »
    though if he was ambassador for utopia he woul dhave diplomatic immunity

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyK8nopOwqs

  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    Man, I hate this new cyclops.

    Being a civil rights activist and part of an oppressed minority doesn't make you immune to the rule of law.

    He isn't saying 'I can get away with murder because I'm a mutant.' Hell, he was in jail, willingly, for a while because of what he did.

    He's basically saying 'Alright, I really can't afford to be in jail right now because my people are crazy-oppressed and they need my help. Either accept that or get ready fer a fight.'

    Not saying he's entirely correct, but hes not being "Murder with Impunity!" man or anything.
    Lawndart wrote: »
    Batman: Li'l Gotham #7 reveals one of the long-hidden secrets in Batman's Bat-arsenal:
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    Ack, at first I thought she was in the front seat and being drawn with a really, really thin body and no arms.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    exactly what i was thinking @Fearghaill

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    If Cyclops renounced his American Citizenship, then at best he's an international criminal for murdering a US citizen.

    Look I don't want to use a metaphor here because no matter what it would be ridiculous but lets be clear here but lets take a look at what happened. The official leader of a Nation killed someone. There are a ton of things that make things more complicated but just going with that how was this ever simple?

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Man, I hate this new cyclops.

    Being a civil rights activist and part of an oppressed minority doesn't make you immune to the rule of law.

    He isn't saying 'I can get away with murder because I'm a mutant.' Hell, he was in jail, willingly, for a while because of what he did.

    He's basically saying 'Alright, I really can't afford to be in jail right now because my people are crazy-oppressed and they need my help. Either accept that or get ready fer a fight.'

    Not saying he's entirely correct, but hes not being "Murder with Impunity!" man or anything.

    This is the main push of the issue. Cyclops is saying "I don't care that you have my brother as your token mutant leader, cops are pulling guns and being violent to new mutants who did nothing and you aren't doing a damn thing about it"

    That's why Eva is telling her role model to listen to Scott, because the Avengers have first hand proof of it being the case right in front of their eyes.

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I was all excited to come start posting stuff in this thread because I had time to read all my comics today and I especially wanted to talk about how good Uncanny X-Men #3 was


    but now I hate all of you

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    The fact that nobody says "hey you know Cyclops was being mind controlled by the Phoenix is maybe important" is also totally weak

    those pages don't make up the entirety of the confrontation, there is a bunch of stuff before. The stand-off takes up almost the entire issue.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    Man, I hate this new cyclops.

    Being a civil rights activist and part of an oppressed minority doesn't make you immune to the rule of law.

    Well, when you believe the laws are unjust kind of the whole idea is to break them.

    Cyclops did surrender himself at the end of AvX, he was willing to let himself be punished for actions wether he considered himself responsible or not.

    But his treatment in prison and more importantly the treatment of other mutants around him convinced him that this new race of mutant kind needed to be saved.

    Now, it's obviously incredibly arrogant that Cyclops thinks he is the only one capable of doing this but he's not attacking anyone, he has not taken up arms against any goverments or people, he has simply acted (so far) to extricate new mutants from compromising situations.

    Cyclops is a completely fascinating character right now, and the reason he is so is because he so straddles that line between sympathetic cause and potentially unsympathetic actions. It's the same dynamic that made Magneto one of the most fascinating characters in the Marvel universe for large stretches of the last 30 years and it's working beautifully here again.

    For as much as I had been looking forward to this specific book, I was a little let down by the first 2 issues. But this allayed every fear I have, I loved this issue and am now as fully onboard with this as I am with All New X-Men.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Uncanny is such a weird book for me to read

    I am not really rooting for Scott's squad. I think the Uncanny Avengers and Logan's crew are in the right, personally.

    But it is well written and taking characters I do like in interesting direction.

    Overall I like it, but it is weird reading a story where I hope bad shit happens to the protaganist.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    also this issue assured me that Bendis does in fact understand Magneto because I was REALLY WORRIED about that for the first two issues.

    And Bendis has written him well before so I it was more of a "hrmmmm" but I have faith once again now.

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Question on Magneto's plan:
    So he didn't tell scott so that Scott's response at the ambush was genuine so that if there were any psychics they wouldn't realize they engineered the situation. OK, I get that.

    Yet he makes contact with SHIELD while not wearing his blocking helmet, and isn't worried they wouldn't have scanned him for his intentions?

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    Question on Magneto's plan:
    So he didn't tell scott so that Scott's response at the ambush was genuine so that if there were any psychics they wouldn't realize they engineered the situation. OK, I get that.

    Yet he makes contact with SHIELD while not wearing his blocking helmet, and isn't worried they wouldn't have scanned him for his intentions?

    honestly I think you can chalk that up to
    artistic license, for the full bald-head reveal.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Solar wrote: »

    we took out the Avengers without lifting a finger! Fear our mighty plot device!

    also I'm not sure how it's a "plot device" given that that it's been established since the first issue thats how Eva's powers work? Also the whole plan was for Magik to port them out the moment the Avengers made a move, Eva just acted first. Scott never intended to fight them.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Man, I hate this new cyclops.

    Being a civil rights activist and part of an oppressed minority doesn't make you immune to the rule of law.

    Well, when you believe the laws are unjust kind of the whole idea is to break them.

    Which would be a fine story to tell if
    A. I personally thought the law was unjust (Standing trial for a murder witnesses saw you commit is not an unjust law) and
    B. If "the other side" wasn't represented by a ton of superheroes who I can't say are acting in the wrong.
    Cyclops did surrender himself at the end of AvX, he was willing to let himself be punished for actions wether he considered himself responsible or not.

    But his treatment in prison and more importantly the treatment of other mutants around him convinced him that this new race of mutant kind needed to be saved.

    Now, it's obviously incredibly arrogant that Cyclops thinks he is the only one capable of doing this but he's not attacking anyone, he has not taken up arms against any goverments or people, he has simply acted (so far) to extricate new mutants from compromising situations.

    Last I checked murder and escaping prison were grievous crimes, and you do not get a free pass on grievous crimes just because your doing humanitarian work. Seriously, any other person on earth would still be in jail, so why does Cyclops get special treatment. (Aside from the diplomatic stuff).

    It'd be one thing if he holed p somewhere and was directing things from afar, but he's not. He's running around, doing whatever he wants, and the moment anyone tries to enforce the laws he broke, he gets ready for a fight.
    Cyclops is a completely fascinating character right now, and the reason he is so is because he so straddles that line between sympathetic cause and potentially unsympathetic actions. It's the same dynamic that made Magneto one of the most fascinating characters in the Marvel universe for large stretches of the last 30 years and it's working beautifully here again.

    For as much as I had been looking forward to this specific book, I was a little let down by the first 2 issues. But this allayed every fear I have, I loved this issue and am now as fully onboard with this as I am with All New X-Men.

    IMO, the way he's written makes him entirely unsympathetic. But that's just my opinion.

    Undead Scottsman on
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