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[PA Comic] Monday, April 1, 2013 - How To Turn Time Into Bones

GethGeth LegionPerseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
edited April 2013 in The Penny Arcade Hub
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    _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Well said.

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    KroenenKroenen Registered User regular
    That was my problem with MH as well.

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    BertezBertezBertezBertez Registered User regular
    Lady Gabe makes me feel confused.

    ...but I would say that

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    ShamisOMallyShamisOMally Registered User regular
    Uh oh

    FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!

    *Dives behind cover as the rest of the gaming world shows up*

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Those monsters are so sad about not being hunted.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited April 2013
    I can't stop looking at Tycho's ass in panel two.

    -edit-

    also, his loincloth thing vanished between panels.

    MuddBudd on
    There's no plan, there's no race to be run
    The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
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    AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    Perhaps maybe the Fool of April yes? Ha ha ho, it is to laugh.

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    GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    Perhaps maybe the Fool of April yes? Ha ha ho, it is to laugh.

    Today is the perfect day to express your sincere opinion on something like that. I think they absolutely found it dull.

    This post was sponsored by Tom Cruise.
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    GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
    _J_ has been rescued by Malyonsus.

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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    That isn't a loin cloth. It's an epic pube beard.

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    HjorvarthrHjorvarthr Registered User regular
    Monsters for a birthday comic

    I'll take it!

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    JayeEmmJayeEmm New HampShireRegistered User regular
    I don't want to hunt those monsters, I want to hug them.

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    Black_HeartBlack_Heart Registered User regular
    I would like Monster Hunter more if the games weren't still using a Playstation 2 engine and models that have been reskinned for the 8th time. Capcom refuses to make an actual new MH game when they can just recycle the same game endlessly and people will pay full price for it.

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    lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    I just think MH's grind is just too hardcore. The amount of time you have to devote to get a full set from each monster. Also, I'm just not into the 30 min boss fights anymore. Yes, yes, this things become 15 mins affair when you're that good. Alas, I'm not that good.

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    theResetButtontheResetButton Registered User regular
    I would like Monster Hunter more if the games weren't still using a Playstation 2 engine and models that have been reskinned for the 8th time. Capcom refuses to make an actual new MH game when they can just recycle the same game endlessly and people will pay full price for it.

    Damn. I pulled up a trailer, and you're not kidding. I'm not that uppity about graphics, but that's the definition of "phoning it in".

    Keep honking: I'm also honking.
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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    That isn't a loin cloth. It's an epic pube beard.

    Fine, his Merkin is missing.

    There's no plan, there's no race to be run
    The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
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    GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
    theResetButton has been kidnapped by spool32 and is being held for ransom! Solve the riddle to set em' free, or I'll hand em' over to Clamps!

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    So I feel there's been deceit
    I helped sell a ton of copies
    Yet all I'm known for is a RECEIPT
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    DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    I would like Monster Hunter more if the games weren't still using a Playstation 2 engine and models that have been reskinned for the 8th time. Capcom refuses to make an actual new MH game when they can just recycle the same game endlessly and people will pay full price for it.

    Uh, Tri was a whole new engine, with all new monsters. They rebuilt weapon/monster collision from the ground up. So I don't know what you're talking about, except that the core gameplay is the same. Except that they also added underwater fights to Tri, and MH4 has vertical surfaces and monster climbing.

    So... yeah, what you said isn't actually true! I guess you still use big weapons to fight monsters. It is a Monster Hunter game.

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    GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
    Delzhand has been kidnapped by Henroid and is being held for ransom! Solve the riddle to set em' free, or I'll hand em' over to Clamps!

    This is not a romantic coupling
    though I'm in a PAIR
    My GAMES bring many happiness
    though I am known for my DESPAIR
    Which forumer am I?

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    GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
    Delzhand has been rescued by Henroid.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    As dumb as that was to do, I was totally stoked when I realized I knew the answer to that riddle. Yay!

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    GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
    Black_Heart has been kidnapped by Iron Weasel and is being held for ransom! Solve the riddle to set em' free, or I'll hand em' over to Clamps!

    SPIRACLES are his passion
    Chelicerae another one
    To him CHITIN is a fashion
    Why should chordates have all the fun?
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    kingworkskingworks Registered User regular
    If Gabe didn't like the game and only played it 30 minutes, how come he gave it a check on the PAR game guide?

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    GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
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    GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
    kingworks has been kidnapped by theResetButton and is being held for ransom! Solve the riddle to set em' free, or I'll hand em' over to Clamps!

    My existence was a CHARITABLE thing
    An act both nice and kind
    But I had to go for I could not bear
    That brat STEPSON of mine
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    lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    kingworks wrote: »
    If Gabe didn't like the game and only played it 30 minutes, how come he gave it a check on the PAR game guide?

    Probably changed his mind? It happens! Also, I thought the check was more along the lines, we are playing these games not like YOU SHOULD BUY THESE GAMES.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I have less issue with his opinion of the game, I mean whatever MH isn't for everybody and they tend to start off really slow so it's not like I blame him, especially given his rationale in the news post.

    So much as the fact that I think they forgot to write a joke.

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    Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    There are jokes in PA comics?

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    The news post was an interesting and fair read.

    It's true; MH is kinda its own thing, and really doesn't spend a lot of time making accommodations. If you're in to what it has to give, it's great. If you're not, it's not.

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    ShamisOMallyShamisOMally Registered User regular
    edited April 2013
    Soooo he played it for 30ish minutes and then gave up?

    Not to be "That guy" but Monster Hunter only truly becomes fun when you start fighting monsters the size of ATV troop land carriers and 747's

    I'd argue the game doesn't really become "Fun" until you start fighting Royal Lundroth and Barroth's, the first large monsters in the game where you need to know actual situational awareness and just can't ROLL ROLL ROLL when they start to barely turn towards you.

    Only then do all the games true mechanics come out, which is why Barroth is considered the "Wall" in new monster hunter games, because the game stops being a cakewalk at that point

    EDIT: Yes, I am aware this only really occurs by hour 6+ in the game, but like I said, this is the game becomes incredibly fun and not just fighting oversized bears and ostriches

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    If a game needs 6+ hours of notfun invested to receive any fun, that makes it a bad game.

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    ShamisOMallyShamisOMally Registered User regular
    edited April 2013
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    If a game needs 6+ hours of notfun invested to receive any fun, that makes it a bad game.

    Explain the popularity of EVE online

    Also those six hours of "Not fun" it teaching you all the basics of the game, which is incredibly complex deep down, and you literally have to master what one of 5+ openers you will move, which of the 5+ combo's you will execute, and judging on how a monster flinches which of up to 7+ evade maneuvers you should be pulling off, all of this for the games 10+ weapons

    Again, Barroth is a wall cause you just can't run up and smack him, you actually need to use the incredibly deep combat system

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    Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    If a game needs 6+ hours of notfun invested to receive any fun, that makes it a bad game.

    Surprised he loved Ni no Kuni then.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 2013
    I would argue that I thought Tri started getting good earlier, at the Great Jaggi. That's the first full-fledged hunt.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    I think different people find different things in video games fun and some people find the slow learning entertaining and some people do not.

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    ToonaphishToonaphish Registered User new member
    I'm going to call it guys, this is just one big April Fool's Day joke.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 2013
    It's definitely not ideal that Monster Hunter takes awhile to get into.

    But there is a lot of stuff it has to teach you, and I can't really think of a "better" way to handle the early game learning phase.

    I definitely wouldn't say it's 6+ hours though, I'd say 2-3 maybe? And even that may seem like a lot of immediate downtime once you start the game, but you only ever really have to do it once, and then once you're past that the game has hundreds of hours of stuff to offer. Or if you're insane like me, thousands.

    EDIT: But yeah, again, MH isn't for everybody and I absolutely acknowledge that. I can easily look from outside and see loads of stuff that would probably bug different people about the game, despite my absolute love of it.

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    I very much doubt that anyone new to MH would be able to or even want to get in the meat of the game if the first village quest was "Go Hunt a Rathian."

    The situation actually reminds me of another PA comic:
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    You start small because for the uninitiated and unprepared, Monster Hunter devours your dreams.
    It's perfectly okay to have tried it and simply not to be able to get into it too, though. It tends to click or it doesn't.

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    johnwolfjohnwolf Registered User new member
    Video games are just like Books or Movies when it comes to attracting their audience. For gabe, he likes games, books, or movies that imeditly grab his attention. For Tycho, he's willing to look past the boring begining to see what the game/movie/book has to offer. I realy like MH but at least he understands that it's because of HIS likes and dislikes that he can't get into the game. Like i say all the time, If you only play CoD all day, then this game isn't for you.

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    pwn493pwn493 Registered User regular
    Monster Hunter 3's graphics are pretty poor, but the monsters' animations are very nice. Monsters become haggard as the battle progresses; they salivate, pant and limp. They also vocalize, stumble and roll around, which makes them seem like real animals.

    Another thing I like about monster hunter is how the mechanics reenforce the struggle necessary in taking down a large animal. I like playing with the great sword (which can take 1.5 seconds to swing), and trying to get one step ahead of the monster in order to get a hit. A good hunt will actually tire me out, because I tense up when my character is swinging or trying to dodge.

    Monster Hunter does a huge number of things wrong though, and I while I understand that MH is a game series that doesn't care if you like it, I wish they would at least try to address these issues...
    - I wish you could kill a cool monster in the solo campaign within 1 hour out of the gate
    - Harvesting and combining is cool, but don't force me to spend 10 years listening to everyone in town (i.e. the dialog is overly verbose)
    - Underwater battles lack a sense of depth, so it's very hard to tell when something is in range
    - The dialog box in the Wii U version is stupid small

    I still absolutely love the game though. Nothing beats fighting a Barroth for 20 minutes and then cutting off its stupid club tail.

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