Are breasts the same as genitals? Feels like an incongruent analogy.
In terms of being locus of attraction they are equivalent.
I am entirely confident in saying that women do not lust after, or place anywhere near the amount of emphasis on, giant balls, in the same way that men are expected to do with breasts. Like, to a point where I feel I should be corrected for leaving even the slightest degree of doubt in that statement.
okay I read this like three times, and shouldn't gabe's second dialogue bubble read 'maybe I would play as the warrior if'
or maybe 'if he didn't look like this'?
it isn't really parsing for me as-is
I believe he's saying that while he's totally going to play the cartoonishly sexed up female, if the male were ridiculously sexed up he definitely wouldn't play him. Whereas had the warrior instead just been standard power fantasy he'd probably pick him every now and again. Which would make the point that comic Gabe loves sexed up female characters but not male characters. Something the creator of the game has even shown to have issue with! When some Kotaku guy criticized his art work he decided to imply he was gay. Because, you know, that's totes an insult.
Being very interested in how horribly behind (like 19th century level behind) the gaming hobby (all sub genres) is in regards to inclusion, gender roles and all that's related to that, and how it develops I find this strip spot on. I'm not going to start a discussion about it here as there are many excellent blogs that is working to the end of bringing this terrible situation to light. I just want to thank PA for taking a swing for the fight against ignorance and abuse. Again.
okay I read this like three times, and shouldn't gabe's second dialogue bubble read 'maybe I would play as the warrior if'
or maybe 'if he didn't look like this'?
it isn't really parsing for me as-is
People call characters like that sorcerer sexist, and people offer arguments against that ranging from "(I/sample person/other group) am/is/are not offended, why are you? (as silly an argument as "I have a sandwitch so you can't be starving") to "LOLOLTITS BACK IN THE KITCHEN." Gabe's answer here is a more reasonable, "Yes, you're right, but I'm a terrible person." He'd be uncomfortable if he was objectified in the same way, but when it's done to women his judgement is clouded because the giant bouncing boobs are doing exactly what the artist intended.
Wow, I read this comic like, three times before I noticed the dick bag.
What is wrong with my brain? I was just parsing it as, instead of having like, a proper dick he had like, a dick stalactite, because he was, you know, rock hard...
I'm just going to excuse myself from the thread now. :P
On the main page for the game (http://www.atlus.com/dragonscrown/) you can click the character models at the bottom of the page to see a walking animation. Both the Sorceress and Amazon (linked by @el_vicio above) appear to be utilizing some advanced DoA Beach Volleyball physics.
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I've definitely known about Dragon's Crown for a while. The game is hyper-sexualized or gender stereotyping / exploitative (I dunno which term to use really) but it's doing it to the guys and the women. There's precisely two characters who don't really fall into the trap; the wizard and the archer.
Edit - The art is absolutely ridiculous. It's too bad because what the game is seems fairly interesting.
The thing is, if the videogame industry at large was not already saturated with ridiculous female physiques, I could see Dragon's Crown being a legitimate "gratuitous-on-purpose" game.
Edit: more concisely, this would be a good counter-culture depiction if it were not precisely in line with the current culture.
I must be weird, but I don't see anything gay with that dwarf picture. I mean, I can see why someone would see it as gay, but it does not push my particular "ha! gaaaayyyy!" button.
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that is literally the degree to which her boobs fall out of her top
In terms of being locus of attraction they are equivalent.
I believe that's highly subjective.
Yes, male sexuality is much more difficult to quantify, so it seems like any point Mike and Jerry were trying to make is weakened by being inaccurate.
or maybe 'if he didn't look like this'?
it isn't really parsing for me as-is
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I thought he meant "but maybe I would"
only I assume most of the images aren't fan art at all!
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
this comic is kinda NSFW
little heads up would be nice
Geth doesn't care to conform to your human rules.
maybe not his dong, i mean thats not really realistically useable then is it
See it curves back at the bottom
The bulging sack at the back is just the tip
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I am entirely confident in saying that women do not lust after, or place anywhere near the amount of emphasis on, giant balls, in the same way that men are expected to do with breasts. Like, to a point where I feel I should be corrected for leaving even the slightest degree of doubt in that statement.
I believe he's saying that while he's totally going to play the cartoonishly sexed up female, if the male were ridiculously sexed up he definitely wouldn't play him. Whereas had the warrior instead just been standard power fantasy he'd probably pick him every now and again. Which would make the point that comic Gabe loves sexed up female characters but not male characters. Something the creator of the game has even shown to have issue with! When some Kotaku guy criticized his art work he decided to imply he was gay. Because, you know, that's totes an insult.
oh my god her head is so tiny
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What happened to the "Gabe is unsure about his sexuality" jokes anyway.
People call characters like that sorcerer sexist, and people offer arguments against that ranging from "(I/sample person/other group) am/is/are not offended, why are you? (as silly an argument as "I have a sandwitch so you can't be starving") to "LOLOLTITS BACK IN THE KITCHEN." Gabe's answer here is a more reasonable, "Yes, you're right, but I'm a terrible person." He'd be uncomfortable if he was objectified in the same way, but when it's done to women his judgement is clouded because the giant bouncing boobs are doing exactly what the artist intended.
What is wrong with my brain? I was just parsing it as, instead of having like, a proper dick he had like, a dick stalactite, because he was, you know, rock hard...
I'm just going to excuse myself from the thread now. :P
For reference, here are the images of the Sorceress from the actual Dragon's Crown website (probably NSFW):
http://www.atlus.com/dragonscrown/images/character/06_s1.png
http://www.atlus.com/dragonscrown/images/character/06_s2.png
On the main page for the game (http://www.atlus.com/dragonscrown/) you can click the character models at the bottom of the page to see a walking animation. Both the Sorceress and Amazon (linked by @el_vicio above) appear to be utilizing some advanced DoA Beach Volleyball physics.
Edit - The art is absolutely ridiculous. It's too bad because what the game is seems fairly interesting.
Edit: more concisely, this would be a good counter-culture depiction if it were not precisely in line with the current culture.
Incidentally, I thought this article about some of Dragon's Crown's artistic homages was interesting.