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[PA Comic] Friday, June 28, 2013 - What You Wish For
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Seriously, when Linux copies your design paradigm and Apple doesn't, you should know that you're on to something good and you shouldn't ruin it.
I've noticed this cycle and I think it's due to the following; Microsoft like to release a new and massively updated Windows version pretty regularly. When they make a major change everyone hates it due to 2 main reasons:
1 - People hate or are afraid of change so they reject the new OS out of hand and hate it for whatever the new change is, it's not entirely objective
2 - As MS have made such massive changes or entirely rebuilt the software there will be bugs and UI inefficiencies (this is no different to any other new software release included the beloved OSX, which I find my Mac regularly gets patched just as much as my windows machine does)
Then MS release a new and improved version that fixes what every one hates, the big bugs everyone complained about are gone and enough time has passed for people to accept the new changes and then they like/love it. The cycle from what I know has roughly been people in general liked or dislike the following:
Win 95/98 (basically the same) - Disliked
Win 98 Second Edition (a whole new version) - Liked
Win ME - Disliked
Win XP - Liked
Win Vista - Disliked
Win 7 - Liked
Win 8 - Disliked
Win ??? - Will probably be liked
That's what I've observed in general, however I'm open to debate on whether I'm right or not.
Edit: Before anyone points it out, yes there will always be people that love or hate any Windows regardless. This can be a result of both rational and irrational reasons.
You seem to have left out Windows 2000.
because I'm fine with windows 8 and really don't care theres no start button because theres like 5 shortcuts that do the same thing
I didn't include 2000 as it was part of the professional NT line. It's not in the same release line as the home consumer versions of windows I listed.
Windows 8 does this but only for "Metro" apps (or whatever they're calling that now; the ones that only run in the new desktop style that nobody seems to like) because breaking backwards compatibility with old Windows software would be suicidal for Microsoft.
Also I gotta say that I was not pleased to spend forty bucks on the Windows 8 upgrade only to have to spend another five bucks on Start8 to make it usable again.
I upgraded from Win 7 to Win 8 on my uber PC. I like it a lot, there are some issues mostly with driver support, but that's a third party issue that's getting regularly fixed. I have no problem with the tile interface or the location of options. I like it a lot, I had dual booted between 8 and 7 but I found I just stopped using the 7 install so I archived the drive and boot right into 8 now.
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Just makes no sense to me to have a big button interface on a non-touch system.
Or which gives you less control over it than any version of Windows since 3.0 (when they dropped DOS Executive for Program Manager), while strictly limiting what programs can show up as buttons at all, requiring you to clutter your desktop with shortcuts or type the name of the program you want... the very thing Program Manager and the Start Menu were supposed to make unnecessary.
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There are really simple ways to get around/bypass the metro interface, and Win 8 has better performance then 7, so don't sweat it too much.
This is really my main quibble. I have a tablet I use for work with Win8 on it, and I love it. It's very intuitive. However, my home laptop is a lot more game and program intensive, and is NOT a touch screen, but unfortunately came with Win8 installed on it. It's not ball-shatteringly bad like some of their previous offerings have been, but it seems extremely pointless - I can use it but I'm not particularly fond of it.
And on the operating system argument, well there are things in life I get excited about having to learn from scratch:
The myriad of console and dashboard controls on a new car
The peccadilloes of a new girlfriend
The menu of a nice restaurant
and their are other things I just can't/couldn't/won't get excited about the prospect of having to learn from scratch:
How to use my legs
How to speak the English language
How to use a god-damned computer
They're these things what make clouds or something.
BRB.
Hmm, according to Outlook, a Peccadillo is a "minor offense".
I like a clean desktop with a minimum of icons on it. When I first tried Windows 8, I started by deleting all the tiles I knew I wouldn't use like News and Sports and Weather and Stock Ticker and all the other bloatware bullshit. I was left with like 5 tiles. At that point, what the hell is the purpose of the Metro interface?
What that tells us is that you hate new things, then get used to it.
The real problem is tile was implemented poorly. Pop us appear no were near where their relevant on the screen, lack of consistence .
Tiles are faster, more informative and more user friendly then clicking on a button to see a list then go into the list to get to another list.
That was the point of my original post and I wasn't talking about what I did and didn't like personally, but the general public perception of releases. I actually liked both Vista and Win 8. I preferred 7 over Vista quite a lot though.
I made a slight edit to my original post so that was clearer.
How is it faster or more informative for a menu to take up the entire screen instead of a corner of the screen? If I'm just trying to launch Photoshop or a game or whatever, it is much, much faster for me to pull up a list of programs and select it from the list, rather than being transported to a full-screen experience full of moving and blinking icons, with a completely different interface than the rest of the OS.