Apparently it's been in the news recently and a lot of non-first party studies.
You might want to read your articles:
Critics, unsurprisingly, dispute this. Julian Vasquez Heilig, an associate professor at the University of Texas in Austin and a coauthor of the critical Linda Darling-Hammond paper, notes that the Mathematica sample compares TFA students both to traditionally certified teachers and to other teachers trained in alternative certification programs, some of which require as little as 30 hours spent on an online program before being sent into the classroom.
"Let's say you go to Reagan airport, and Delta says you have three options: one pilot who has had 30 hours of training, another who's had five weeks of training, and another who's been piloting for five years and has been piloting this plane for a whole year. Which pilot do you want?" Vasquez Heilig asks. "When they compared the TFA teachers to the certified teachers, they weren't better. There's no significant result. So they're comparing five weeks to 30 hours."
Q. Help Me Tell Him!: I found out a few weeks ago that I'm expecting a child. My husband has two children from a previous marriage. About two years ago I got pregnant and my husband went into a violent depression. He didn't speak to me for weeks except to tell me how I had ruined his life. Then, when I miscarried he celebrated. I started bleeding in the grocery store, and he fell to his knees and "praised God" for this wonderful blessing. After months of therapy, we decided to try to make the marriage work, under the agreement that we would never have a child together. However, I now find myself pregnant again. And, I want this baby as much as I wanted the last one. The trouble is, I decided back then that I would never want a child with my husband. There is a very good chance that my husband will divorce me and leave a man-shaped hole in the front door as he grabs his two kids and runs as far away as he can. I am not ready for the end of the marriage I have put so many years and so much work into. But, I'm even more not ready to hear my husband try to talk me into an abortion—which is not an option. And, I think it would be traumatic for my stepchildren to watch me carry a baby to term and then put it up for adoption. They are well old enough to know what's happening. Plus, I could never part with my child. I have to tell him. But how?
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lady you have identified that there is a problem now expand the scope of that a little
Q. Help Me Tell Him!: I found out a few weeks ago that I'm expecting a child. My husband has two children from a previous marriage. About two years ago I got pregnant and my husband went into a violent depression. He didn't speak to me for weeks except to tell me how I had ruined his life. Then, when I miscarried he celebrated. I started bleeding in the grocery store, and he fell to his knees and "praised God" for this wonderful blessing. After months of therapy, we decided to try to make the marriage work, under the agreement that we would never have a child together. However, I now find myself pregnant again. And, I want this baby as much as I wanted the last one. The trouble is, I decided back then that I would never want a child with my husband. There is a very good chance that my husband will divorce me and leave a man-shaped hole in the front door as he grabs his two kids and runs as far away as he can. I am not ready for the end of the marriage I have put so many years and so much work into. But, I'm even more not ready to hear my husband try to talk me into an abortion—which is not an option. And, I think it would be traumatic for my stepchildren to watch me carry a baby to term and then put it up for adoption. They are well old enough to know what's happening. Plus, I could never part with my child. I have to tell him. But how?
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lady you have identified that there is a problem now expand the scope of that a little
I am running my hand through my hair and letting out a sustained breath at this.
My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
This reminds me, I need to talk to my doctor about a vasectomy.
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My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
WHAT ABOUT EQUALITY, HUH SPOOL?
spool lives in texas. im pretty sure the dowry there is still like 4 cows and a goat, so it only makes sense to start collecting now on the down payment
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THATS RIGHT, FIRST EVER LOLTEXAS POST MADE IN [CHAT] WHAT WHAT WHAT
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My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
WHAT ABOUT EQUALITY, HUH SPOOL?
Man do you know how expensive my boys are going to be with this shit when they get to dating seriously? I need to claw back some of this cash now, so I can save for when the patriarchy demands I pay up.
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My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
This reminds me, I need to talk to my doctor about a vasectomy.
Have you considered getting your testicles removed?
My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
WHAT ABOUT EQUALITY, HUH SPOOL?
spool lives in texas. im pretty sure the dowry there is still like 4 cows and a goat, so it only makes sense to start collecting now on the down payment
Four longhorns and a Remington pump action. Get it right, god.
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i am always creeped out by how good of a job the makeup department on Sunny does with the McPoyles
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My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
WHAT ABOUT EQUALITY, HUH SPOOL?
Man do you know how expensive my boys are going to be with this shit when they get to dating seriously? I need to claw back some of this cash now, so I can save for when the patriarchy demands I pay up.
My parents must have been pretty strategic in making sure I was fat and awkward during the ages of being born and when I really should have started taking responsibility for how disappointing I am.
My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
This reminds me, I need to talk to my doctor about a vasectomy.
Have you considered getting your testicles removed?
I've considered it along the same lines as removing my limbs: Only to save the world and even then it's iffy. I'd need assurance you homps would still go down in flames.
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a friend of mine in Texas went into city hall to file for her marriage license -
ONE STOP SHOP
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So this feckin' guy at lunch asks us all if we saw BrBa last night.
Nobody had.
So he then proceeds to give a watery retelling of the entire episode from tip to taint.
My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
WHAT ABOUT EQUALITY, HUH SPOOL?
Man do you know how expensive my boys are going to be with this shit when they get to dating seriously? I need to claw back some of this cash now, so I can save for when the patriarchy demands I pay up.
Tell your man children that if they are desirous of a mate they must first club the buffalo.
IE get a job you welfare queens.
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My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
WHAT ABOUT EQUALITY, HUH SPOOL?
Man do you know how expensive my boys are going to be with this shit when they get to dating seriously? I need to claw back some of this cash now, so I can save for when the patriarchy demands I pay up.
My parents must have been pretty strategic in making sure I was fat and awkward during the ages of being born and when I really should have started taking responsibility for how disappointing I am.
i'm sure they spent a fortune in rpg sourcebooks, metal minis and hesher cds
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My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
WHAT ABOUT EQUALITY, HUH SPOOL?
Man do you know how expensive my boys are going to be with this shit when they get to dating seriously? I need to claw back some of this cash now, so I can save for when the patriarchy demands I pay up.
Tell your man children that if they are desirous of a mate they must first club the buffalo.
IE get a job you welfare queens.
I'm pretty sure clubbing the buffalo means something different than that.
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My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
WHAT ABOUT EQUALITY, HUH SPOOL?
Man do you know how expensive my boys are going to be with this shit when they get to dating seriously? I need to claw back some of this cash now, so I can save for when the patriarchy demands I pay up.
Tell your man children that if they are desirous of a mate they must first club the buffalo.
IE get a job you welfare queens.
I'm pretty sure clubbing the buffalo means something different than that.
its when a neckbeard is breaking it down on the dance floor while DJ gooby is dropping base on stage.
Bless your heart.
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TehSlothHit Or MissI Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered Userregular
My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
WHAT ABOUT EQUALITY, HUH SPOOL?
Man do you know how expensive my boys are going to be with this shit when they get to dating seriously? I need to claw back some of this cash now, so I can save for when the patriarchy demands I pay up.
Tell your man children that if they are desirous of a mate they must first club the buffalo.
IE get a job you welfare queens.
I'm pretty sure clubbing the buffalo means something different than that.
c'mon now, I thought we had an understanding you would put discussion of all that bdsm stuff in spoilers.
My daughter was bitching about how her boyfriend is bad at convincing his parents to let him do things (he has no license yet) and how they always just say no and don't listen to any reasons for anything and have no patience. As a frame of reference, he is the last of their four children. I was taking her to be dropped off to see a movie with him and as I stopped to get her a bit of cash for herself (along with "tell your stupid boyfriend to buy you lunch and bring back most of these dollars") I paused in the aisle of the store and I say:
"OK look. You cannot ever repeat this. Ever. EVER. But sometimes when your mother and I think about your brother who is 13... we are like oh my god five more years of this? noooooo so perhaps you should consider that your boyfriend's parents are at this point just really, really tired of being asked for things."
I have no idea if it helped or what lesson I taught but oh well!
WHAT ABOUT EQUALITY, HUH SPOOL?
Man do you know how expensive my boys are going to be with this shit when they get to dating seriously? I need to claw back some of this cash now, so I can save for when the patriarchy demands I pay up.
Tell your man children that if they are desirous of a mate they must first club the buffalo.
IE get a job you welfare queens.
I'm pretty sure clubbing the buffalo means something different than that.
I would hope you taught your boys not to think of women as bags of meat, Spoolsmith.
Apparently it's been in the news recently and a lot of non-first party studies.
You might want to read your articles:
Critics, unsurprisingly, dispute this. Julian Vasquez Heilig, an associate professor at the University of Texas in Austin and a coauthor of the critical Linda Darling-Hammond paper, notes that the Mathematica sample compares TFA students both to traditionally certified teachers and to other teachers trained in alternative certification programs, some of which require as little as 30 hours spent on an online program before being sent into the classroom.
"Let's say you go to Reagan airport, and Delta says you have three options: one pilot who has had 30 hours of training, another who's had five weeks of training, and another who's been piloting for five years and has been piloting this plane for a whole year. Which pilot do you want?" Vasquez Heilig asks. "When they compared the TFA teachers to the certified teachers, they weren't better. There's no significant result. So they're comparing five weeks to 30 hours."
You might wanna read the studies linked in the articles before citing one critic's weak metaphor of teaching to flying a plane (two things less alike I could never think of) as a complete retort and read the study from the department of education affiliated source (http://www.mathematica-mpr.com/)
Do you know... I've never heard a good argument for why I need to care about the suffering of animals in mass meat production environments, outside of the secondary impact on human consumers (ie. antibiotic overuse, sanitary conditions, etc).
Have you ever heard a good argument for why you need to care about the suffering of human beings?
Good question. I'd have to go with my giew that humans are endowed with enough capacity and potential that preserving their lives -- and improving their quality of life -- is an intrinsic duty of all Other Humans.
I don't find that to be my view of animals because (afaik) they don't have nearly the potential or capacity of humans. In the case of cattle/other animals slaughtered for their meat: they do more good for humanity* dead than alive, and so killing and eating them is justifiable.
I mean, we don't seem to have a problem with killing billions of microbes every hour of every day, or (usually) euthanizing strays because they're both a nuissance and because they'd probably die anyway if allowed to continue living. Why differentiate between the cute and cuddly ones... and the microscopic or mange-riddled ones?
(I understand that this post is practically begging for probing and will do my best to reply in a timely manner... but I'm about to start work here at the library, so that may not be possible until I leave at 10:00.)
*Working under the assumption that such large-scale farming of cattle can be done sustainably... which at present I don't think is the case because of the environmental impact of industrial cattle farming methods.
**And to be clear, I wouldn't go out of my way to harm an animal, or to allow others to based on some of the research I've heard about linking animal abuse to negative psychological pathologies.
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Apparently it's been in the news recently and a lot of non-first party studies.
You might want to read your articles:
Critics, unsurprisingly, dispute this. Julian Vasquez Heilig, an associate professor at the University of Texas in Austin and a coauthor of the critical Linda Darling-Hammond paper, notes that the Mathematica sample compares TFA students both to traditionally certified teachers and to other teachers trained in alternative certification programs, some of which require as little as 30 hours spent on an online program before being sent into the classroom.
"Let's say you go to Reagan airport, and Delta says you have three options: one pilot who has had 30 hours of training, another who's had five weeks of training, and another who's been piloting for five years and has been piloting this plane for a whole year. Which pilot do you want?" Vasquez Heilig asks. "When they compared the TFA teachers to the certified teachers, they weren't better. There's no significant result. So they're comparing five weeks to 30 hours."
You might wanna read the studies linked in the articles before citing one critic's weak metaphor of teaching to flying a plane (two things less alike I could never think of) as a complete retort and read the study from the department of education affiliated source (http://www.mathematica-mpr.com/)
you guys both might want to stop phrasing things this way as it makes you look like 13 year olds
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this cant be real
I am running my hand through my hair and letting out a sustained breath at this.
I don't even know where to start, here.
This reminds me, I need to talk to my doctor about a vasectomy.
spool lives in texas. im pretty sure the dowry there is still like 4 cows and a goat, so it only makes sense to start collecting now on the down payment
it...
...it's not like i even wanted to ban you
~uguuu
Such cruelty in the face of my disability.
Man do you know how expensive my boys are going to be with this shit when they get to dating seriously? I need to claw back some of this cash now, so I can save for when the patriarchy demands I pay up.
Have you considered getting your testicles removed?
Four longhorns and a Remington pump action. Get it right, god.
Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
Doesn't count because i disagree with that statement.
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My parents must have been pretty strategic in making sure I was fat and awkward during the ages of being born and when I really should have started taking responsibility for how disappointing I am.
I've considered it along the same lines as removing my limbs: Only to save the world and even then it's iffy. I'd need assurance you homps would still go down in flames.
ONE STOP SHOP
Nobody had.
So he then proceeds to give a watery retelling of the entire episode from tip to taint.
Browns fans.
That's because he only owned the finest of assault rifles.
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Seems practical for a small town
Tell your man children that if they are desirous of a mate they must first club the buffalo.
IE get a job you welfare queens.
i'm sure they spent a fortune in rpg sourcebooks, metal minis and hesher cds
just because i awesomed your post doesnt mean i like you or anything!
so tsundere
kawaii emoshunal baggige
rly 8000 yeer old demon in child body
wow
Texan Republicans claim to want small government.
But here is incontrovertible proof that you need a license to even have a restroom.
Was there at least a bayonet on the end?
I'm pretty sure clubbing the buffalo means something different than that.
I've answered every single person from my boss to the stranger sitting next to me in class with "no, and don't say a fucking word about it"
they were all incredibly understanding
it is this generation's finest programming after all
Nah, but he had an grenade launcher doohickey.
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its when a neckbeard is breaking it down on the dance floor while DJ gooby is dropping base on stage.
c'mon now, I thought we had an understanding you would put discussion of all that bdsm stuff in spoilers.
twitch.tv/tehsloth
All the better to blow up the Alien Queen's eggs.
I would hope you taught your boys not to think of women as bags of meat, Spoolsmith.
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@Feral
Good question. I'd have to go with my giew that humans are endowed with enough capacity and potential that preserving their lives -- and improving their quality of life -- is an intrinsic duty of all Other Humans.
I don't find that to be my view of animals because (afaik) they don't have nearly the potential or capacity of humans. In the case of cattle/other animals slaughtered for their meat: they do more good for humanity* dead than alive, and so killing and eating them is justifiable.
I mean, we don't seem to have a problem with killing billions of microbes every hour of every day, or (usually) euthanizing strays because they're both a nuissance and because they'd probably die anyway if allowed to continue living. Why differentiate between the cute and cuddly ones... and the microscopic or mange-riddled ones?
(I understand that this post is practically begging for probing and will do my best to reply in a timely manner... but I'm about to start work here at the library, so that may not be possible until I leave at 10:00.)
*Working under the assumption that such large-scale farming of cattle can be done sustainably... which at present I don't think is the case because of the environmental impact of industrial cattle farming methods.
**And to be clear, I wouldn't go out of my way to harm an animal, or to allow others to based on some of the research I've heard about linking animal abuse to negative psychological pathologies.
Food is a basic necessity and a comfort for many people. Nothing odd with them enjoying and defending habits they grown up with from birth.
you guys both might want to stop phrasing things this way as it makes you look like 13 year olds
or not
who can say really