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US Government Shutdown: Operation Slime Down
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They've had 4 frickin' years to plan for this. FOUR YEARS. This is not one of those deadlines you play chicken with unless you're really excited about getting fined. Also, the fines only ramp up over time, so if you're a bit late, it's not the end of the world.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/19-times-democrats-tried-to-negotiate-with-republicans-20131007?mrefid=mostread
The employer delay was tough politically and not preferable, but it had to be done. The rules and regs just came out this summer, giving pretty much zero time for employers to get their IT together enough to meet the reporting requirements. Remember they have been working on the Exchanges since 2010 and they're barely functional. It was way too onerous on the employers to force them to meet the requirements laid out by January. There would have been a riot.
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I read this whole thing. I got curious about the band. I found...this:
http://www.fox10tv.com/news/robodrum-performs-on-studio-10
It's gotta be Dutschke's band. Yikes.
Except that Republicans within the House believe that a clean budget extension bill can pass, and that Boehner is completely full of shit when he says he wants to fund the government again but just doesn't have votes to do it without Democrat concessions.
It's says a lot about Boehner that he says that over and over again but never actually tries putting a clean budget extension up for a vote.
Excluding the corporate workforce from the exchanges nukes the underwriting for the insurance companies and will cause them to increase premiums on people who how now legally obligated to buy insurance under penalty of law
Everywhere, everywhere throughout the health insurance world, premiums are higher for people who our out of work or otherwise without access to employment benefits, including wives and children who cannot work
by excusing corporations but mandating presumably non-working or individuals who are otherwise unable to obtain employer based healthcare, you are condeming them to inordinarily higher premiums unless they are poor enough to get a credit
The exchanges don't cap premiums. They only stimulate competition. The only price controls on premiums are the credits, which will not be given to a lot of people who aren't particularly rich... over 400% of poverty, which is what, 40, 50 grand a year in New York City?
yeah, I guess if the only option is sitting around then they might as well just ignore the problem
people deciding to talk about an issue and do something about it never changes anything
on an unrelated note,
So that's not going to be taken as "look at the stupid shit this shutdown is causing" but instead "look at how awful the democrats are being by being whiny and pedantic about the shutdown"
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Seriously, you do not know what you're talking about. The "corporate workforce" is not excluded. EVERYONE still must have insurance. The employer delay means large employers don't have to PROVIDE it for their employees until 2014, but the employees still have to have it. If they can't get it through work then they get it through other means.
Blame Obama Backfires as Disapproval of Republican Shutdown Tactics Surges to 70%
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/07/americans-disapprove-gop-tactics-approve-obamas-handling-week.html
it doesn't look like everyone's opinion is set in stone as to who to blame for this
It's nice to live in a state where they put in the effort to cooperate with this and get their shit mostly together.
It took a couple days for the website to get un-wanged from the launch traffic, but it seems to be fine now.
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Exactly. All those people still have to get insurance, they just have fewer options than they will come open enrollment in 2014. And as far as having four years already to plan, that really isn't that much time for a full corporate restructure. Contrary to popular belief, it can take many years to get changes down the pipe if you want to preserve your current profits and sales.
Does that mean those corporations shouldn't have completed their stuff by now? Of course not. They should have got their acts together and tried to wrap up this year. Does that make the extension some kind of blasphemy? Not at all. It's really a non-issue, all those needing insurance have places to get it right now, at this moment, via the exchanges or through individuals looking directly with their preferred carriers (or continuing on existing corporate plans where already available). The only thing that happens with the corporate extension is that new options will be delayed a year.
They are apples and oranges.
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