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Finalized Console Tourney Rules and Info

Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
edited August 2004 in PAX Archive
This will be updated as I finish the rules for each game. Feel free to ask any and all questions you may have, and I'll try my best to answer them.

Please note that rules and tournament format are subject to change based on actual turn-out. The final tournament schedule might change as well if we need more time for a particular game.

Currently Scheduled Time Frames:

Saturday, August 28th
Halo: 10:00am to 12:30pm
Soul Calibur 2: 1:30pm to 4:30pm
Rainbow Six: 5:30pm to 8:00pm
Guilty Gear XX: 8:30pm to 11:00pm

Sunday, August 29th
Splinter Cell: 8:00am to 10:30am
Smash Bros. Melee: 11:00am to 1:30pm
Mario Kart DD: 6:00pm to 8:00pm

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Halo:

    Rules
    4 player teams
    Team Slayer, first to 50 kills
    100% Health with Shields
    Custom Weapon Set, no Radar
    Map selection decided day-of

    Format: Qualifiers
    Teams will be divided into pools, each containing 8 teams
    Each pool will be organized into an 8 team single elimination bracket
    Each match will be best of 1 game (tentative)
    The winner of each pool will advance to the semi-finals

    Format: Semi-Finals and Finals
    The winning teams from each pool will be re-seeded and placed into a new 32 team single elimination bracket
    Each match will be best of 3 games (tentative)
    Grand finals will be best of 5 games (tentative)

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Soul Calibur 2

    Rules
    X-Box version
    You may bring your own controller if you wish
    Standard VS Mode
    100% Health
    Best of 5 rounds
    50 second timer
    Neutral Guard on
    Spawn is banned
    Lizardman's command throw glitch is banned (throw itself is still legal)
    Winner keeps character, loser can change character if they wish

    If you pause the game for ANY reason short of a serious emergency, you automatically lose the round, no questions asked. This means you can sacrifice a round to set your controls if you failed to do so at the character select screen. This rule also applies if you reset the game or console.

    Format: Qualifiers
    Players will be divided into pools, each containing 8 people
    Each pool will be organized into an 8 player single elimination bracket (tentative)
    Each match will be best of 3 games
    The winner of each pool will advance to the semi-finals

    Format: Semi-Finals and Finals
    The winner from each pool will be re-seeded and placed into a new 32 player double elimination bracket
    Each match will be best of 3 games
    Winner's finals and loser's finals will be best of 5 games
    Grand finals will be best of 5 games (tentative)

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Rainbow Six: Black Arrow

    TBA

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Guilty Gear XX

    Rules
    PS2 version
    You may bring your own controller if you wish
    Best of 3 rounds
    99 second timer
    Ino's boss stage is banned
    All EX, Gold, and Black characters are banned
    Robo Ky, Kliff, and Justice are banned

    To minimize time spent changing controls, at the start of the match, choose the same characters the previous two players had chosen, then skip the VS loading screen (this speeds up loading because it doesn't need to access new files). At the start of the match, pause the game, adjust the controls as needed, then return to Character Select. If you play the game at home on a regular basis, I highly suggest you adopt this habit before the tournament itself.

    If you pause the game for ANY reason short of a serious emergency, you automatically lose the round, no matter what. This means you can sacrifice a round to set your controls if you failed to do so earlier. This rule also applies if you reset the game or console.

    Selecting any banned or EX/Gold/Black characters or setting the stage to Ino's boss stage and refusing to return to the character select screen results in an automatic win for your opponent. If this happens and you are in loser's bracket, you are out of the tournament.

    Format: Qualifiers
    Players will be divided into pools, each containing 8 people
    Each pool will be organized into an 8 player single elimination bracket (tentative)
    Each match will be best of 3 games
    The winner of each pool will advance to the semi-finals

    Format: Semi-Finals and Finals
    The winner from each pool will be re-seeded and placed into a new 32 player double elimination bracket
    Each match will be best of 3 games
    Winner's finals and loser's finals will be best of 5 games
    Grand finals will be best of 5 games (tentative)

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow

    Rules
    Teams of 2
    Neutralization game type
    Revenge mode on
    7 minute games
    Spy Lives=4
    Mercenary Lives=3
    10 second respawn

    Scoring will be tabulated at the end of the match to determine winner (first on time, but in the event of a tie, kills, defended ND133s and lives remaining will be used).

    Format:
    TBA

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Super Smash Bros. Melee

    Rules
    1 vs 1
    4 stock
    6 minute time limit
    Items set to Low

    Banned Items (tentative): Heart, tomatoe, food, star, hammer, cloaking device, party ball, metal box, red koopa shell, mushroom

    Banned Stages (tentative): Hyrule, Termina, Brinstar Depths, Yoshi 64, Icicle Mtn., Flatzone, Big Blue

    Failure to comply with these rules will result in an automatic loss. If this occurs doing qualifiers or if you are in loser's bracket, you are out of the tournament.

    Format: Qualifiers
    Players will be divided into pools, each containing 8-10 people
    Each pool will be organized into a 16 player single elimination bracket
    Each match will be best of 1 game
    The winner of each pool will advance to the semi-finals

    Format: Semi-Finals and Finals
    The winner from each pool will be re-seeded and placed into a new 32 player single elimination bracket
    Each match will be best of 3 games
    Winner's finals and loser's finals will be best of 3 games
    Grand finals will be best of 5 games

    Mario Kart: Double Dash

    Rules
    16 player races (2 players per team, 8 teams per race)
    Random character and Kart selection
    Standard Karts only
    150cc

    Format
    Top 4 teams will advance each round
    Finals will have the last 4 teams play for 1st and 2nd place

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Thread is now open for questions and comments.

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Are PS2->Xbox controller converters available for SCII?

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    I've talked to Binkley and Raj about this. I have mine, which works great with no input lag or any other crap, and they probably still sell them locally at Kick's for around $10. I need to check, but I'm willing to buy a few in advance if you'll pay me back.

    Here it is if you can find it locally or online:

    http://www.flashinlabs.com/fshop/videogames/xbox/xadaptps.gif

    Otherwise, I'll need to talk to Doctor K.

    Edit: The brand name is Boom, I do believe.

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  • KroenenKroenen Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Zig21 wrote:
    Thread is now open for questions and comments.

    SSB:M rules still not finished?

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    FUCK!!!! I knew I forgot something. :? Thanks for noticing.

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  • duderdude2duderdude2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Is the PAX website going to be updated with these rules?

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Hopefully. Doc K mainly wanted Smash rules, so I'll nag him on updating other stuff as well. They're mostly the same, but I didn't originally give him anything regarding qualifers or pools and whatnot. Plus I decided to unban Necrid.

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  • DeathByFireballDeathByFireball Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Sorry if this sounds ignorant, but is the Smash Bros. tourney going to be 1 on 1 or 4 person FFA?

    Edit: Also, will the Halo tourney allow us time to change our look sensitivity or will we just have to choose between "Default" and "Inverted" and be stuck with a sensitivity of 3?

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Smash will be 1 on 1. Just updated the rules with that info.

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  • Rufus_ShinraRufus_Shinra Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    two questions: 1) you said shroom is banned, is that both of them or just the big one?
    2) Are there really 256 people in the smash tourney?

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    1) Both are banned.

    2) Nope, now there're around 300+ entered.

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  • PinnochioPinnochio Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Zig21: Will you be able to enter the Soul Calibur II tournament? I mean seeing as your making all the rules, just curious. Kind of want to see you beat down everyone like you did at the LPNW 200 Man Lan ;).

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  • DeathByFireballDeathByFireball Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Will the Halo tourney allow us time to change our look sensitivity or will we just have to choose between "Default" and "Inverted" and be stuck with a sensitivity of 3?

    My team plays with anywhere from 5 to 8 sensitivity, so I just need to know if we need to get used to using 3.

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Pinnochio-Heh, there will be at least a few other players who can take me down. I'm not even the best Seattle player. SLA is, and he'll be running the console room as well. I just can't beat that guy.>_<

    DeathByFireball-I haven't decided yet, but it's definitely something I'd prefer to allow if time permits. I might try to have individual teams stick to a single TV station when possible.

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Updated Smash rules.

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  • duderdude2duderdude2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    I have a few questions about the Pandora Tournament. Will there be any safe-guards against cheaters? I don't mean to be picky, but anyone who's played Pandora online is surely familiar with the large array of glitches that can be exploited, with the teleportation glitch being the most prominent. Although I'm sure most people at PAX will play honestly, the ones who don't can ruin a match.

    Also, any idea on what levels will be used? Are they all fair game? And how will they be decided upon? Thanks.

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    I'll ask Doctor K about that. I don't even play SC.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited August 2004
    I've noticed that you seem to have it where we can't pick up or choose the banned items or stages. For the items, can't you just turn those off instead of making us mine our brains as to whether or not we can use a certain item before picking it up?

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    ........unless there's some logical reason to ban items and NOT turn them off, I'd be a cruel, heartless bastard for doing otherwise. :?

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  • duderdude2duderdude2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Hey Zig, any updates on my Pandora Tomorrow inquiry? :)

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Sorry, been busy this weekend. I'll try to get back to you on that by the end of today.

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  • BorfaseBorfase __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2004
    Do we have to play with a team member in the MKDD tourney? I hate playing with a second person. If this is the case, can we choose the team member or is it random?

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    You will be paired with a diseased orphan or homeless man randomly selected from a group we picked up off the street.

    But seriously, I'll get back to you on that.

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  • KyleGKyleG Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Just out of curiousity, why did you decide to include the Bunny Ears in Smash Bros.? I see that for the most part, items that give you an advantage without being based on your level of skill have been removed (life-giving items, weapons that require little dexterity, items that change the strength/weight/visibility of your character).

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    I didn't decide on items, actually. That was Takagi's job. I'll ask him when he gets back from Cali tomorrow.

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  • WhitePantherWhitePanther Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    When you ask about the bunny ears, can you also ask if Poke Floats and Rainbow Cruise are supposed to be banned? Makes sense given the others on the list.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited August 2004
    How soon will the Rainbow Six 3:BA rules be updated? also how are they going to do it since I really don't know how you can play against each other with out xbox live :? well how ever they do it is good enough fo rme

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  • Valkyrie FDValkyrie FD Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Hey Death, I know that the rules were completed awhile ago and dont know why they arent up. For the tourny their will be 2 rounds total conquest (Castle and Cafe) and 2 rounds Retreival (Streets of Milan and Ferry Boat). They final will be team survival (Airport 1) and total teams playing is 64 i believe.

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  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    1) Will "hidden" SC2 characters (i.e. Sophitia) be available for the tourney? Or only the default set of characters?

    2) Er, was I supposed to sign up beforehand for this? Or a come-as-you-will sort of thing? :oops:
    (edit) I prereg'd for PAX, if that means anything.
    (edit2) Though I don't recall if I actually chose (or even saw) any tourney options when I prereg'd... are there any options left open to me to get into the SC2 and (maybe) the SSBM tournies?

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Ledneh wrote:
    1) Will "hidden" SC2 characters (i.e. Sophitia) be available for the tourney? Or only the default set of characters?

    2) Er, was I supposed to sign up beforehand for this? Or a come-as-you-will sort of thing? :oops:
    (edit) I prereg'd for PAX, if that means anything.
    (edit2) Though I don't recall if I actually chose (or even saw) any tourney options when I prereg'd... are there any options left open to me to get into the SC2 and (maybe) the SSBM tournies?

    ALL SC2 characters are available, except Spawn is banned.

    And if you pick Sophitia, I'm kicking your ass.


    Also, when you pre-regged, you selected games to pre-register for.
    If you didn't, I think you can still sign up at the door. I don't know if they're limiting the amount of entrants, but I'm guessing no because we want this to be teh biggest SCII tourney EVAR.

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  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    B:L wrote:
    And if you pick Sophitia, I'm kicking your ass.
    Is that a "you asshole" kind of kicking my ass (wha'd I do? :?), or a "you're getting the beatdown of a lifetime" kind? :P

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Ledneh wrote:
    B:L wrote:
    And if you pick Sophitia, I'm kicking your ass.
    Is that a "you asshole" kind of kicking my ass (wha'd I do? :?), or a "you're getting the beatdown of a lifetime" kind? :P

    More of a I-hate-Sophitia-more-than-I-hate-Xianghua-because-I-hate-her-cheap-arse-style-that-eliminated-me-at-EVO2K4-so-I-will-show-you-no-mercy.

    Now, here's my weakness; if someone picks Raphael, I'LL pick Raphael :shock:

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  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    B:L wrote:
    Ledneh wrote:
    B:L wrote:
    And if you pick Sophitia, I'm kicking your ass.
    Is that a "you asshole" kind of kicking my ass (wha'd I do? :?), or a "you're getting the beatdown of a lifetime" kind? :P

    More of a I-hate-Sophitia-more-than-I-hate-Xianghua-because-I-hate-her-cheap-arse-style-that-eliminated-me-at-EVO2K4-so-I-will-show-you-no-mercy.

    Now, here's my weakness; if someone picks Raphael, I'LL pick Raphael :shock:
    You're going down, son. :twisted:
    that's probably a lie

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  • Zig21Zig21 Registered User regular
    edited August 2004
    Canada>>>>>>B:L

    As for Rainbow Six, that's being run by Ubi, so I have no idea what they're doing.

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