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I think the bottom line of this whole debate is that if you want to play MGS4 (at least in the foreseeable future) then you're going to have to play it on PS3. Is that such a bad thing?
You said AAA exclusives. That could be 3rd, 1st, 5th, or 20th party. I mentioned nothing about third or first, just total.
Please.
Uh, not particularly. My statement was pretty generalized. That is, before you started making personal attacks and waxing poetic on your personal console whims.
It's an expensive thing.
I think when MGS4, DMC4, FFXIII, GTA4, ME and GoW are the items under discussion, third-party exclusives are kind of implied. Explicitly.
You know what? You're absolutely 100% correct.
Congratulations, you win 10 internet points. I submit to your logic.
Not really. Gears of War and Mass Effect are heavily supported and published by Microsoft. MS has an investment in those games. So far, Sony and Konami have been quiet on Sony's involvement, if any, in MGS4.
I'm not really defending them. I can only work from personal experience, and I simply haven't seen the same reactions out of 360 owners that I have out of PS3 owners. Everyone that I know who owns a 360 probably wouldn't get their feelings hurt if Gears of War showed up on the PS3.
Alrighty.
Clueless about what?
Only if you don't want to play anything else on the PS3.
If Konami would have developed MGS3 Subsistance for the Xbox, they wouldn't have had to cut online functionality, much less even pay for it. Too bad their choice of system pretty much screwed those purchasers over.
Even if we're talking about ANNY triple-A exclusives then I think PS2 still has GCN beat. If you count timed exclusives, then PS2 has it beat up and down.
FFX, FFX-2, San Andreas, Killzone, etc...
It's really not as big of a list, unless we count timed ones as you said. PS2 was king of timed exclusives last gen. I'm just saying, AAA titles aren't the best way to measure console health...
...console health is measured by console sales and attach rate. ;-)
Pity
Unless PS3 sales REALLY slump (which is possible), we probably won't hear anything until after the PS3 release, though, because PS3 development is apparently pretty expensive, and I doubt they would risk hurting sales for that platform after all the money spent making the game specifically for it.
Would this disc change happen before or after the 3 hour codec conversation with Snake discussing life, freedom, self, the nature of the universe, the nature of war, the nature of man, the history of Japan and what the best type of cigarette is?
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Well I would sure hope so!
What he is trying to say is that the 360 is so last gen, and the PS3 is the real next gen.
Therefore MGS4 would never work on 360.
Duh.
uhh, don't you mean profit?
Console sales and attach rate = profit. Eventually.
What about both God of Wars, ICO, Jak and Dexters 1-3, Ratchet and Clanks 1-3, Sly Coopers 1-3, Shadow of the Colossus, Katamaris 1 and 2, Final Fantasy 12, both Kingdom Hearts, Dragon bloody Quest 8, Silent Hill 3, the above-mentioned Metal Gear Solid 3 (with 2 as a timed exclusive) the other GTAs as timed exclusives, Suikodens 3-5 (okay, 4 wasn't apparently much to brag about, but still...) and so on? If we're not just counting first-party, I'd say the PS2 is pretty dominant in this regard. Okay, this is implying only console exclusives in some cases, but if we're counting the PC, than even Halo doesn't technically count.
tell that to microsoft
They make a profit on every 360 sold already.
Someone told them before I could. Fiddlesticks.
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they do? news to me
besides which, xbox attach rate did fuck all for profit on the 360
Quite old news. I know you'll want a link, and well, I'm just too lazy to find one, but it is true. MS is in the black with 360 sales.
The 360 attach rate was 5 per in November, 2006. At the same time they were pulling profits on the 360.
LINKS!
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=11796
http://www.techspot.com/news/23612-microsoft-makes-tiny-profit-on-xbox-360-hardware.html
Metal Gear Solid: Guns of the Patriots: Dirty Eyebrows Edition.
PS2:
God of War 1 and 2
FFX and FFXII
Gran Turismo 3 and 4
MGS2 and 3
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus
I'd say Jak and the Ratchet series, but not everyone agrees, so I won't list them.
Virtua Fighter 4
Devil May Cry 1 and 3
Xbox:
Halo 1 and 2(well I don't agree with 2)
Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2
Jade Empire
Fable(maybe you wouldn't include it)
Morrowind
Still though, GCN had great games, but barely any.
SSBM
MP 1 and 2(not my cup of tea)
WW and TP
yeah i googled the links myself
and i meant attach rate for the original xbox
but you know it's kind of unimportant i don't really care
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I bet that MGS4 would be announced for the 360 up until six months after the PS3 release, which was a fair bet at the time when all the other PS3 games' exclusivity was being debated.
Thing is, I may not work there anymore by the time MGS4 comes out. Changing schools, longer commute, etc.
Guess I'll get him his money some other way. <_<
Most of those were just timed exclusives, since they ended up on the PC eventually (and Morrowind was just a port of a PC game).
As someone who can't be arsed to bother with 3 yet I really think you all are just arguing to say you argued.
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MGS4 and FFXIII are easily the PS3's most high-profile exclusives. MGS is deemed more likely to be ported.
Also, MGS3 is pretty awesome.
As someone who enjoyed MGS1 and MGS2, I have to say that MGS3 is really fucking good, and a huge step above both of those.
(I have a soft spot for the 2D Metal Gears, though.)
People can bitch about its gameplay but it has a great deal of memorable/popular characters and has good story-telling even if most people didn't get MGS2. Though you never quite get over looking up the voice actor for Liquid Snake, realising he did Leonardo in the original TMNT cartoon and that he's also gay. Not that theres anything wrong with that but still. Weird that Leonardo is semi gay.
Well, with the PS2 and PSP and of course now with the PS3, the new MGS games garner a whole lot of hype and attention, particularly it seems, for their graphics and stated features.
People get all hyped up about it. Especially the people that aren't really fans of the series, per se, which is weird.
Because when it comes out, they buy it in droves, and then a couple of years down the line when the awesome and improved sequel comes out, they say, "dur MGS sucks. bad camera + too much blah blah why doesnt it control like halo"
Wait, I forgot what we were talking about. I guess the moral of the story is, that MGS is a hype machine for Sony's systems initially, then people buy it and remember they don't like it, except for the fans of the MGS games who know what they're getting (like me), and then when the superior sequel comes out a few years later, only the MGS fans buy it (of which there are many, just not bazillions) and enjoy it for being a great game of a great series, as it is lost amidst the GTA/Halo/etc. hype.
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See, there's the ticket. 3 was one of the best games of last generation.
You speak the truth like a gentleman, good sir.
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It's ON baby! List wars!
PS2:
Gran Turismo 3
Gran Turismo 4
Onimusha 2
Onimusha 3: Demon Seige
Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams
Devil May Cry
Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistance
God of War
God of War II
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Shadow of the Colossus
Ico
Silent Hill 3
Okami
Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
Dragon Quest VIII
Jak & Daxter
Jak 2
Jak 3
Ratchet & Clank
Ratchet & Clank 2: Going Commando
Ratchet & Clank 3: Up Your Arsenal
Ratchet: Deadlocked
Rogue Galaxy
Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus
Sly 2: Band of Thieves
Sly 3: Honor Among Thieves
SOCOM
SOCOM 2
SOCOM 3
SOCOM: Combined Assault
GC:
Super Smash Bros: Melee
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2
Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Eternal Darkness
Resident Evil: Rebirth
Resident Evil Zero
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Super Mario Sunshine
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
F-Zero GX
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
Xbox:
Halo
Halo 2
Jade Empire
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II
Forza Motorsport
Project Gotham Racing 2
Note: Games are exclusive to one console, so PC doesn't count. Next gen systems, however, DO count (so Twilight Princess can't be added since it's on the Wii).
I could've listed the Disgaea and Shin Megami Tensei games for the PS2 as well, but I figured I'd be nice and try to reduce the PS2 list. I was also pretty generous with the GC list (personally I wouldn't include FF:CC or Eternal Darkness as AAA titles).