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Shaming Myself Into Exercise: [Armbands and Technology Halp]

ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
So

Nike Fuelband?

Jawbone Up?

Fitbit Flex/Force?

Something else?

Any of these worth it? Any of them shit? Any of them really good?

I have an iPhone 5s to synch with. I like the idea of the sleep tracker even though it's just going to make me mad at myself.

Which one is best in life?

Also, I'm a bit gassy this afternoon. Any recommendations?

But mostly the first thing, though.

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  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    If you really want to go for the shame angle, I just recently read about Gym Pact, which has you put your money where your mouth is. If I understand it right, you outline your weekly exercise commitment (your pact) and somehow put some amount of real money on the table toward it. Do your exercise, keep your money; don't, and lose it.

    Compulsive gambling meets exercise. What could go wrong?

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    I would go so broke

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  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    Well I can't help you with the gizmo side of things, but Fitocracy is a great incentiviser for gaming minded folk.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Yeah, I did Fitocracy for a while but I kind of got bored with it.

    I dunno. If it had graphs and stuff my nerd would have gone into overdrive.

    I suppose I could do it myself but I'm already exercising what more do you want from me? Gawl

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  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    I am having success doing what I can with Nerd Fitness right now.

    The fundamentals of it borrow from some of the more demanding and intense fitness regiments (high protein, paleo-esque diet, strength training over cardio, etc), but the goals are incredibly achievable the workouts are minimalist in nature so other than just being lazy there's very little reason not to stick to it.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    I am having success doing what I can with Nerd Fitness right now.

    The fundamentals of it borrow from some of the more demanding and intense fitness regiments (high protein, paleo-esque diet, strength training over cardio, etc), but the goals are incredibly achievable the workouts are minimalist in nature so other than just being lazy there's very little reason not to stick to it.

    Coolies. I might look into that.

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    My wife has the Fitbit, and she seems very happy with it. It apparently does all the things it advertises.

    However, it is not magical, so it can not compel you to exercise.

    If you don't want to do it, then you will always find reasons not to.

    There is a app, My Fitness Pal, for the iPhone that works very well for tracking food. It even has a barcode reader to making logging food easier. Also, its free.

    I have been in your place many times before. Always thinking, if I just had X then I would totally be motivated to work out. Be that a gym membership, a workout trinket, new workout clothes, new shoes, weights or exercise equipment at home. It all ends up as money spent, clutter accumulated, exercise not done!

    I have had some success though. My wife & I did Nutrisystem a year ago for 4 months. The food is... edible. the program is expensive, but if you stick to the plan and don't cheat, it does work. There is no magic to it, its just a forced calorie reduction diet. The trick is that they take the thinking out of it for you. But, my wife & I lost 100lbs together before we could not stand it any more and went back to normal food.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Nice, congrats!

    Yeah, I'm just trying to find a way to get myself motivated to exercise. I do okay with the diet part and I'm not terribly overweight (6'4", 215lbs), just out of shape... though my blood pressure is magically good, so that's cool. I seem to always get going for a few weeks or months and then get sick and then stop completely. What I really need to do is stop seeing a missed day as a total failure. I quit smoking with the same mentality, why can't I apply it to exercise?

    Also, I just love gadgets, so one of these armband things would just be neat :P

    I took a peek at MyFitnessPal and it looked neat. I'll have to give it another look. The barcode scanner sounds like a nice addition to the normal apps like that where you have to figure it all out yourself.

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  • RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    Some motivation for me when I was doing the things is to find other people you enjoy being miserable with. Find a running or gym buddy. Then you get to hold each other to a routine.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    One of the big things is to just commit to going to the gym/exercising as often as possible. Even if you only jog for 30 minutes, progress is progress. Fitocracy is also good if you're an achievement whore.

  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    Nike+Move app tracks your movements with your phone. I've been consistently outpacing myself each week because I want the graphs in it to get better than the last week. Plus I don't have to wear a dumb bracelet, just keep my phone in my pocket.

  • DirtmuncherDirtmuncher Registered User regular
    If you like games you could try Ingress (unfortunately its on android).
    Its a geolocation based alternate reality mmo that's spans the globe.
    The point of the game is capturing and connecting portals that are everywhere around you. But you can only capture a portal when your near it (within 40 meters). So you have to walk / bike around. Its also very social because you need to team up to make higher lvl portals and make longer connection.
    It won't make you buff but it will keep you walking and biking.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    That sounds like a pretty cool thing.

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  • DirtmuncherDirtmuncher Registered User regular

    Chanus wrote: »
    That sounds like a pretty cool thing.

    They said they would be bringing it to IOs "soon". But no timeframe has been given.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Having played a few MMOs in my time, I tend not to hold my breath when I hear that word. :P

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  • Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    Just as a side note, most of the stuff available (fuelband, fitbit, jawbone, ect..) are activity trackers not exercise trackers. By that I mean they are very good of giving you an idea of how often and for how long you are active throughout the day, but they are mostly terrible at telling you how active you were. Most of them don't track excercise stats, are terrible at calculating things like calories burned, and will often misjudge intense activities for laziness. Just as a few examples:
    • If you go running you wont get info on how fast you ran, what your splits/pace was, what your heart rate was, ect...
    • Doing things like yoga/weight lifting wont really show up as exercise because you aren't moving very fast or very often, even though they are obviously great workouts.
    • Because they aren't tracking things like heart rate, they are pretty much universally terrible at judging how many calories you have burned.

    Having said all that I own a fuelband and I love that it lets me look back each week at how many days I was moving around a lot, and how many days I sat on my ass all day. And even though it's not great at exercise tracking, I strap it to my foot when I bicycle and it seems to do a decent job of telling me that on those days I had periods of more intense activities for certain lengths of time. Plus I am obsessed with completion and they created a ton of achievements that you can get, which has really made me become more active in my quest to collect em all if you will. Except for "every damn day" which sounds like a sweet achievement but fuck having to go 365 days straight without having 1 lazy day.

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  • taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    Personally, i've found smart scales to be much more useful for weight loss/shaming you into exercise. The fitbit aria for example, plots your BMI, Body fat % and Weight every time you weigh yourself on a graph you can view from the app or website, that graphs starts climbing, shit's gotta change, and its awesome seeing your body fat decrease as you build muscle. But then again I hit the issue Jebus mentioned where not a single form of exercise I do (Weights, squash, rock climbing etc) could be accurately tracked by anything sooo yeah.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Hmm. Definitely something to ponder. On the one hand I suppose stuff like that would motivate me to move around, but it doesn't sound like they'd really do the things I'd want them to.

    Maybe I should just stop being lazy slug. :P

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  • Mad JazzMad Jazz gotta go fast AustinRegistered User regular
    Honestly, the biggest (and only, really) thing that has worked for me is finding something that I actually like doing. Until I found the exercises I really liked and wanted to get better at, I would do the same "work out for a little while but quit" thing.

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    I personally use Nike+ on my iPod touch + one of those arm band cases to track my runs and while I like the feedback being able to see my distances and times I think you may be approaching this the wrong way. No amount of technology tracking your fitness is going to make you enjoy it. You should try to find a type of exercise that you enjoy.

    For example,
    I HATED working out with machines or traditional dumbbell/plate style weights. It just wasn't for me. As a result I NEVER worked out (literally I started for a couple months then stopped for about 10 years.) I joined a gym that was a kettle bell/indian club/body weight HIIT (High intensity interval training) gym and found that it was a lot more enjoyable (you won't find it at the big box gyms so you'll have to do a bit of research if its something you're interested in.) The thing I enjoyed about it was that with relatively short sessions (25 - 35 minutes) you could accomplish a lot more on the basis that you weren't using one machine then waiting for someone to get off your next one, and there was a cardio challenge to the HIIT side of it that you don't tend to get with 'regular' weight lifting.

    Another example was with cardio. I hated running on a treadmill, but that is how I started. I did it because I *had* to (going through recruitment for a few military style careers) and found it difficult to stay on top of it. I started running with some friends in the park and that was fun but made it difficult to run alone when their schedules didn't allow them to join. Once I started getting ready to run Tough Mudder I started running trails with my team. Much harder at first, but also much more interesting. It feels like a more animalistic form of running because you have to dodge roots, jump over things, etc. Since then I generally only run trails and do so on a regular basis. It's something I can do whether I'm with people or alone, although I definitely recommend taking someone with you on your first few runs because it can be dangerous if you're not used to the level of attention you need to pay. Most places have some kind of trail not too far from town so you don't have to pay for one of the big mud runs. Of course I don't recommend it as a first run and I'm sure the 'get muddy and have to pay attention to a lot of little hazards the whole time you're running' isn't for everyone but what I'm trying to say is that even within something as simple as running there can be varying degrees of complexity that can help you develop an interest in something that you would otherwise have trouble motivating yourself to do.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    What if what I hate is doing anything at all? :P

    Seriously, though, I did P90 for a couple months (not P90X but the babby version) and I liked most of it but it's really intense and once I stopped doing it, convincing myself to pick it back up is just really difficult because I know how hard it is. There were a few parts of it that I just couldn't do and I never really felt like I was getting closer to a point where I could do them. I would be using heavier weights for the lifting parts and keeping up a better pace for the cardio stuff, but then would hit these roadblocks where I'd just have to kind of futz through a section because I wasn't getting any better at them.

    Kind of like trying to do a pull-up where it doesn't really work to do, like, 1/8th of a pull-up this week and 1/6th of one next week, and eventually get there.

    I dunno... maybe I just need to look into different things and find a way to make a plan that works for me. I think the major issue is I'm really, really good at talking myself out of doing things I don't feel like doing right now... and then I never end up doing them.

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  • Mad JazzMad Jazz gotta go fast AustinRegistered User regular
    I've had that same problem with P90x and Insanity. I like them, but they're kinda boring. The things that I like that got me in shape were discovering that I love to play ultimate, and that I love rock climbing. Almost 100% of my exercise now is directly related to one of those two things (and I originally started climbing as cross training for ultimate, so I guess related to one thing).

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  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    I dunno... maybe I just need to look into different things and find a way to make a plan that works for me. I think the major issue is I'm really, really good at talking myself out of doing things I don't feel like doing right now... and then I never end up doing them.

    There are so many different ways for people to keep themselves motivate, so I do think a big part of reaching success is finding what's right for you in particular.

    If you're good at talking yourself out of doing things, what about modifying the situation so that you're talking someone else into doing things? Do you have a friend who really needs to get in better shape? Ideally someone who needs it even more than you do, and who wants to get better but has trouble staying motivated? Become that person's training buddy. Now if it's time for the Saturday morning workout, if your mind starts finding reasons why you don't really have to do that workout, you won't be able to escape all the reasons your friend really needs you.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    It's a good idea but I kind of like to be in my own headspace when I exercise so having a partner there would kind of ruin that.

    I've tried doing stuff with the Lady occasionally but it's just not a good fit for me.

    I sure do have a ton of excuses, huh?

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Take a payed class in something that looks fun. A lot will try out what they're offering for free or fairly cheap to see if you like it too.

    The biggest motivator I've had is knowing that if I don't go to my class I've effectively just thrown money away.

  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    I tried the Sports Active "game" on my PS3, and it mostly worked as advertised though the bands would lose signal occasionally. Workouts were balanced well and alternated between cardio and strength.

    Really the best advice is to find something you enjoy and block time every day/week to do it.

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    It's a good idea but I kind of like to be in my own headspace when I exercise so having a partner there would kind of ruin that.

    I've tried doing stuff with the Lady occasionally but it's just not a good fit for me.

    I sure do have a ton of excuses, huh?

    I'm fighting this myself

    starting to feel like it's time for me to fit into the regime, rather than finding a regime that fits for me.

    Right now, "fits for me" means "lazy as fuck" so pretty much no exercise regime is a good fit...

  • k-mapsk-maps I wish I could find the Karnaugh map for love. 2^<3Registered User regular
    From someone who went from ABSOLUTELY nothing to running consistent 5Ks (which I realize is not a lot, but is significant coming from a subhuman state), what helped me is to make the most foolproof exercise plan possible. Ask yourself, what is the path of least resistance that you can take to start exercising?

    For me, the devil was in the details. For instance, even though I can use the gym at my school for free, I pay extra to go to a gym closer to my house. It's a steep price to pay over the 0 I would pay for my school's facilities, but it's still totally worth it because: 1) it makes the logistics of going to the gym easier because I don't need to plan ahead; 2) they have an indoor track; and 3) I have the peace of mind of not seeing or being distracted by people I know. Each item doesn't seem like much in of itself, but when you add them up it could mean the difference between "ah, fuck it I'll eat a pizza and masturbate" and "fiiine, let's just see what happens if I go". Look to see if there are small things impeding you from exercise, and destroy them. The easier it is, the less principal willpower you'll need to start.

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Far better than trying to shame yourself into exercise is to make exercise fun.

    That is how I got myself up and active. I had a very, very sedentary lifestyle. I was in a complete desk job, and given that my favourite activity was PC gaming, I was at my desk at home too.

    So I wanted to do exercise. But I didn't want to do "exercise" the buzzword, like running (BORING), gym (BORING, STUPID, AND EXPENSIVE), home workouts (BORING, EXPENSIVE).

    I solved it by getting started with tae kwon do, and getting back into basketball. I now exercise hard four times a week, two of each activity for a couple of hours each time. It doesn't even feel like I'm exercising because i'm having fun. Much better than forcing yourself to stare straight ahead while you mechanically flail about in a gym or at a park somewhere.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    I think I need to make more than a few lifestyle changes to make this all work... and that's sort of been a stumbling block.

    I need to get up earlier so I don't only have the minimum amount of time necessary to get ready for work. I'd like to exercise in the morning when the Lady is still asleep and the house is quiet and there aren't distractions. At least until I'm comfortable with a routine, I really don't want to be around other people. It's part silly embarrassment but it's also just distracting and I can't focus on what I'm doing.

    But I can't do that if I'm staying up late for no good reason all the time... etc etc etc

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  • hsuhsu Registered User regular
    Two things you can do that take up no additional time during your day:
    1. Stand up desk ... with a bar stool for the occasional rest
    2. Stop drinking calories ... or at least stop drinking non-alcoholic calories

    I started both about 3 years ago, and the difference is definitely noticeable.

    I hardly ever do leg exercises, yet my legs, stomach, and lower back are still plenty strong, all because I stand up at work about 90% of the time. I thought that I'd use the bar stool occasionally, but I find I rarely use it; if I'm sitting down during the day, I'm probably eating lunch. The studies I've seen suggest that you'll end up burning an extra 1500-2000 calories per week by just standing up at work vs sitting.

    No drinking of calories should be obvious. Each can of soda is 140 calories, so 2 cans a day for a week is almost 2000 calories. That's like eating an extra lunch and an extra dinner every week. It takes a lot of exercise to burn off 2000 calories, so it's far better to just not drink them in the first place.

    Notice how that's a potential 4000 calorie difference, per week, without any extra time commitment.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    well, i don't drink calories except a tbsp of sugar between my two cups of coffee in the morning

    i tried giving that up but i love coffee too much and not all mornings mix well with black coffee

    so there's that

    standup desk wouldn't really work, but i used to go do a lap around the warehouse every hour or two... it would end up totalling about two miles a day... i should get back into that

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    If you don't like coffee without sugar, try buying a better brand of coffee. I find that when i'm at the office and have to drink the instant coffee there I have to pour sugar into it to make it drinkable, and often don't bother with it for that reason, but when I'm at home and able to make good coffee, I neither need nor even want sugar.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    It's not that I don't like it as much as I don't always like it.

    Also, there's something with the water here at work. Even brands I know are good taste not as good here. I should just start making it at home, but then I have to remember to bring the mug back and forth and oh man that's just a whole new set of issues :P

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Also, I'm not going to worry about one tbsp of sugar per day. I want to be healthier, I don't need to be Thor.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    NO, NORSE GODS ONLY.

    I agree with Dhal here, find stuff that you like to do, then do that as your exercise. I also rock climb, and usually go 4-5 times a week because I genuinely enjoy it, and as a result I get into good shape.
    I also run on occasion because I hate myself, but that's a different matter.
    I will say that a huge piece is to just commit to "going" to work out (even if it's in your garage etc.) and set a minimum "working out time". One of the hardest things about working out is fitting it into your schedule, so if you just make the commitment to show up and do something at the gym for a half hour, it will quickly become a normal piece of your schedule. Showing up is the hard part, working out is the easy part.

  • k-mapsk-maps I wish I could find the Karnaugh map for love. 2^<3Registered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    NO, NORSE GODS ONLY.

    I agree with Dhal here, find stuff that you like to do, then do that as your exercise. I also rock climb, and usually go 4-5 times a week because I genuinely enjoy it, and as a result I get into good shape.
    I also run on occasion because I hate myself, but that's a different matter.
    I will say that a huge piece is to just commit to "going" to work out (even if it's in your garage etc.) and set a minimum "working out time". One of the hardest things about working out is fitting it into your schedule, so if you just make the commitment to show up and do something at the gym for a half hour, it will quickly become a normal piece of your schedule. Showing up is the hard part, working out is the easy part.

    Hey, self-hate is a much underrated great personal motivator in all aspects of life. Not enough love for self-hate.

  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    One of the most important things about getting healthy is not needing outside stimuli to push you into it.
    None of my friends who depend on a gym buddy keep going for long

    Armbands are shit, if you want health it's all about your food and your actions. Clothing is also pointless. I've been weightlifting in a $5 singlet and $10 shorts for 3 years

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    I did yoga yesterday.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    I thought you said you wanted to exercise? B)

    If it's real yoga that can be a good workout, and for extra fun try hot yoga sometime.

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