I would be interested in seeing what a Gears collection would look like without all the UE3 "tropes" (ugh hate that word) hampering it
I mean, the art assets they used for Gears 1-3 were already really damn good - just using the higher res textures with a better lighting model, better character and monster models, and 1080p60 on UE4 would be fucking awesome.
They could also take the "best" control scheme / character movement system from the entire series (almost undeniably gears 3) and string all three games together into an epically long campaign, with gears 3 multi as the multiplayer mode.
Finally, if they want to REALLY make it work, they could put a new epilogue or stinger mission on the end of the campaign that opens up the door for Gears 4... and this mission would be a true "next gen" experience, with environments, characters and everything else dialed up to whatever they are aiming for... so more like a demo that threads the needle between 3 and 4, especially since 3 as it stands ended pretty conclusively.
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I would be interested in seeing what a Gears collection would look like without all the UE3 "tropes" (ugh hate that word) hampering it
I mean, the art assets they used for Gears 1-3 were already really damn good - just using the higher res textures with a better lighting model, better character and monster models, and 1080p60 on UE4 would be fucking awesome.
They could also take the "best" control scheme / character movement system from the entire series (almost undeniably gears 3) and string all three games together into an epically long campaign, with gears 3 multi as the multiplayer mode.
Finally, if they want to REALLY make it work, they could put a new epilogue or stinger mission on the end of the campaign that opens up the door for Gears 4... and this mission would be a true "next gen" experience, with environments, characters and everything else dialed up to whatever they are aiming for... so more like a demo that threads the needle between 3 and 4, especially since 3 as it stands ended pretty conclusively.
You could probably just do the last bit, sell it for $30 standalone and it would still sell like hotcakes.
Nah. The reaction to Judgment, much like Halo 4 has resulted in a fractured fanbase. A lot of the old guard were turned off or felt excluded by the newer stuff.
Red vs Blue instead of Cog vs Locust and straight up Horde really pissed a lot of people off... so it might not be hotcakes.
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Nah. The reaction to Judgment, much like Halo 4 has resulted in a fractured fanbase. A lot of the old guard were turned off or felt excluded by the newer stuff.
Red vs Blue instead of Cog vs Locust and straight up Horde really pissed a lot of people off... so it might not be hotcakes.
which is why you don't include judgement in the trilogy re-release, and you double down on what people like about Gears.
Plus, an epic, beautiful horde mode for GoW Trilogy, that uses Azure instead of Peer to Peer, therefore eliminating any host wonkery? That will literally print money.
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I would probably down for the Halo/GoW HD collection (weird to call it that since all those games were in HD). they could also port over fable HD, fable 2 & 3 as a collection. also, crackdown! gimme crackdown 1 with updated, next gen cel-shaded graphics and 4 player co-op. you can leave crackdown 2 on last gen though... I won't miss it.
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I would probably down for the Halo/GoW HD collection (weird to call it that since all those games were in HD). they could also port over fable HD, fable 2 & 3 as a collection. also, crackdown! gimme crackdown 1 with updated, next gen cel-shaded graphics and 4 player co-op. you can leave crackdown 2 on last gen though... I won't miss it.
That's a carryover from last gen's up-ports.
We may end up with
Gears of War: Definitive Edition
or
Halo Quadrilogy: Legendary Edition
But probably not HD - that made more sense when upporting God of War or Shadow of the Colossus.
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Halo 1, 2, 3 and 4 and multi all available as separate purchases... for 25 a pop. Or buy the whole thing for 60 up front.
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they already failed at updating halo 1's multiplayer, as halo anniversary was literally just HD halo CE with 9 classic maps for halo reach.
It would be criminal if they skipped reach and ODST. maybe do two collections, the halo collection and then a spinoff collection that puts reach, ODST, and halo wars on one disc.
Nah. The reaction to Judgment, much like Halo 4 has resulted in a fractured fanbase. A lot of the old guard were turned off or felt excluded by the newer stuff.
Red vs Blue instead of Cog vs Locust and straight up Horde really pissed a lot of people off... so it might not be hotcakes.
which is why you don't include judgement in the trilogy re-release, and you double down on what people like about Gears.
Plus, an epic, beautiful horde mode for GoW Trilogy, that uses Azure instead of Peer to Peer, therefore eliminating any host wonkery? That will literally print money.
Just because it's not included in the trilogy re-release doesn't mean that people will forget that it's there. :P
I'd love to see Crackdown 3. Plus. Crackdown had vague mentions during the One launch period, so I wouldn't be surprised to see something in that franchise fairly soon. The hilarity of killing zombies actually making more stronger zombies appear was amazing too.
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they already failed at updating halo 1's multiplayer, as halo anniversary was literally just HD halo CE with 9 classic maps for halo reach.
It would be criminal if they skipped reach and ODST. maybe do two collections, the halo collection and then a spinoff collection that puts reach, ODST, and halo wars on one disc.
That's also what I was thinking.
Halo: Master Chief Saga
Halo: Expanded Universe
edit: and honestly I don't think it would be smart for them to try re-releasing every multiplayer style across the series. Pick the most refined one, like 3 or 4, and make that the baseline with a core set of really good maps from across the series, the most popular game types, and dedicated servers.
If there are 7 different multiplayer games, there will be shit for a playerbase.
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Just because it's not included in the trilogy re-release doesn't mean that people will forget that it's there. :P
I'd consider it an intelligent "reboot" more than anything else.
When you decide to start up an old franchise on a new platform, you get a lot of say on what to do with that first game, and I think creating a good, cohesive "hook" to carry 3 over to 4 would be more than enough to get people back on board.
I mean, people loved Batman Begins, and that was preceded by Arnold as Mr. Freeze.
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there was a rumored Halo 2 anniversary, wouldn't be surprised if 343 was told to make the for XB1 instead of 360. probably halo 5 this fall, and then halo 2 next fall. maybe as a 20$ downloadable (but after halo ce anniversary was shipped on disc, probably more likely to get a physical release).
Just because it's not included in the trilogy re-release doesn't mean that people will forget that it's there. :P
I'd consider it an intelligent "reboot" more than anything else.
When you decide to start up an old franchise on a new platform, you get a lot of say on what to do with that first game, and I think creating a good, cohesive "hook" to carry 3 over to 4 would be more than enough to get people back on board.
I mean, people loved Batman Begins, and that was preceded by Arnold as Mr. Freeze.
Yeah, I think Rod being back on board will really help here. He'll definitely make sure things get back on track and I'm sure as little as possible will be said about Judgment. I bought and played Judgment, even had some fun with the multiplayer, but taking things back to how they were in Gears 3 is the right thing to do. I'm full of all kinds of hope for this new Gears game.
Not until the end of the month, January 30th. Could make a big difference from me. I'm not xpecting my tax money until Jan 31st at the earliest, and loaded up an amazon gift card to purchase it. I may contact amazon to see if they'll price match and extend the offer a few days. Also, it appears amazon has a few xbox one games for $50 instead of $60.
Am I the only one that finds it odd that there is no mention or sign on the Xbone that Tomb Raider, the first major release since launch, is coming out tomorrow ? Not only can it not be pre ordered and downloaded, but "Xbox bing Tomb Raider" pulls up the Angelina Jolie movie, then "Xbox bing tomb raider game"gives me a documentary about the making of the reboot on the 360.
Not only that, but the add/preview I have for the game doesn't load on Xbox one, it says there's an error.
I would love to see a price as well, or a count down to launch
Does anyone else who has Peggle 2 notice that it crashes without fail almost hourly? I've played it the least of all my games and it has definitely crashed the most, like 20 times and I've only played it for 4 hours. It just happened to me then as I was about to win a high score challenge, I'm almost done with playing it because it's so unreliable.
Also it's kind of weird that fable anniversary edition isn't coming to one
probably a combo of the bad press from the inferior port and that squeenix probably isn't dropping a lot on marketing either.
but I expect they'll advertise once it's in the store.
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probably a combo of the bad press from the inferior port and that squeenix probably isn't dropping a lot on marketing either.
but I expect they'll advertise once it's in the store.
Annoyed they put the XBO port into lesser hands, but I bet once I start playing the game I won't notice the differences, especially since I don't own a PS4.
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probably a combo of the bad press from the inferior port and that squeenix probably isn't dropping a lot on marketing either.
but I expect they'll advertise once it's in the store.
Annoyed they put the XBO port into lesser hands, but I bet once I start playing the game I won't notice the differences, especially since I don't own a PS4.
What if you had both and just didn't care? :P
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Microsoft has announced plans to join Facebook's Open Computing Protocol, and is going to release all of their hardware/software/schematics/etc for Azure to the community. So, if you wanted a more up-to-date look at what exactly Azure looks like right now from an infrastructure perspective, this is a pretty great teardown.
Microsoft is initially donating two designs: a Compute blade and a JBOD blade. The Compute blade packs in two Xeon ES-2400 v2 chips onto a motherboard and two compute blades can sit aside one another in a single 1U server slot. Each blade supports 6 DIMM slots, and comes with an Intel storage controller, one PCIe slot, and networking support for a single or double Dual 10G Mezzanine card or Dual 4X SAS 6G Mezzanine cards.
The company also published a design for a JBOD (Just a Bunch of Disks) blade which can cram in up to 60TB of HDDs into a single sled. Microsoft says this design pattern can cram in up to 96 servers into a 52U rack (48 1U dual-blade server slots, plus networking).
This is a 12U rack. It occupies about 23.6 x 13.8 x 25 inches of space. Azure is basically a whole bunch of these, crammed into shipping containers (at a density of roughly 2500-3500 servers per shipping container) and all sitting in big ol' secured warehouses, hooked up to dedicated power/cooling/connectivity.
Am I the only one that finds it odd that there is no mention or sign on the Xbone that Tomb Raider, the first major release since launch, is coming out tomorrow ? Not only can it not be pre ordered and downloaded, but "Xbox bing Tomb Raider" pulls up the Angelina Jolie movie, then "Xbox bing tomb raider game"gives me a documentary about the making of the reboot on the 360.
It's like they aren't even trying
I got it Friday, Gamestop called me and I was like, well, I guess I can buy ONE MORE game on disc. It's wonderful!
probably a combo of the bad press from the inferior port and that squeenix probably isn't dropping a lot on marketing either.
but I expect they'll advertise once it's in the store.
Annoyed they put the XBO port into lesser hands, but I bet once I start playing the game I won't notice the differences, especially since I don't own a PS4.
Xbox One
Lowest Frame-Rate 24fps
Highest Frame-Rate 30fps
Average Frame-Rate 29.84fps
PlayStation 4
Lowest Frame-Rate 33fps
Highest Frame-Rate 60fps
Average Frame-Rate 50.98fps
Dropping below 30 FPS is really poor and pretty shocking frankly, which either indicates a poor porting job or the power discrepancy is bigger than some are making out.
if anything I think it's simply developers learning to walk on the newer consoles. we know games like forza look amazing on xbone and hits 60fps and 1080p consistently. I personally don't get rustled jimmies from a lower fps but I sympathize with those who do. it's not a problem a next gen console should be having, but I am sure a year down the line the differences will begin to shrink as devs learn to make games on both.
remember the PS3 was notoriously difficult to develop for at first which lead to some inferior ports as well, but eventually it evened out as developers learned the architecture.
if anything I think it's simply developers learning to walk on the newer consoles. we know games like forza look amazing on xbone and hits 60fps and 1080p consistently. I personally don't get rustled jimmies from a lower fps but I sympathize with those who do. it's not a problem a next gen console should be having, but I am sure a year down the line the differences will begin fo shrink as devs learn to make games on both.
remember the PS3 was notoriously difficult to develop for at first which lead to some inferior ports as well, but eventually it evened out as developers learned the architecture.
But it never really did
The PS3 version has been getting lesser ports than the 360 version like 90% of the time, up to and including 2013
I can probably count on two hands the multiplat games that perform better on PS3 than 360 - Burnout Paradise, Saints Row 3 and 4, BioShock Infinite, L.A. Noire, GTAV...
Hell, even Tomb Raider itself was better on 360 than PS3
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Yeah, I have been playing XCOM on PS3 and the game runs noticeably worse (significantly so IMO) than it did on the 360. Dealing with the ant farm can be infuriating as the FPS can totally tank. So it's not actually a problem that goes away.
I also find "Just a bad port" a difficult explanation when it's a common thing across multiple multiplatform games. Something MS really needs to address early on.
I feel like that's not true, I can only remember it really being a problem in the early days (the first AC I remember being much worse on PS3). i don't mean the PS3 got better versions, but that both versions performed simiarly. of course, post PSN hack, games on PS3 have been more susceptible to modding and cheating in online games. but I was under the impression that most multiplat games performed great on both in recent times? I played a few games on both 360 and PS3 last gen and rarely noticed a difference.
in any case, it can clearly output at 1080p and do 60fps. it's up to devs to do quality ports rather than shove out whatever. BF4 managed to do both and it had a shitshow of a launch across 5 consoles. maybe if devs spent more time on the games in question, we'd get a better quality build of the game.
in the end, I am sure I will enjoy TR fine even at 25-30fps. and to be honest, I prefer a steady framerate over one the fluctuates wildly.
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I mean, the art assets they used for Gears 1-3 were already really damn good - just using the higher res textures with a better lighting model, better character and monster models, and 1080p60 on UE4 would be fucking awesome.
They could also take the "best" control scheme / character movement system from the entire series (almost undeniably gears 3) and string all three games together into an epically long campaign, with gears 3 multi as the multiplayer mode.
Finally, if they want to REALLY make it work, they could put a new epilogue or stinger mission on the end of the campaign that opens up the door for Gears 4... and this mission would be a true "next gen" experience, with environments, characters and everything else dialed up to whatever they are aiming for... so more like a demo that threads the needle between 3 and 4, especially since 3 as it stands ended pretty conclusively.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
You could probably just do the last bit, sell it for $30 standalone and it would still sell like hotcakes.
Red vs Blue instead of Cog vs Locust and straight up Horde really pissed a lot of people off... so it might not be hotcakes.
which is why you don't include judgement in the trilogy re-release, and you double down on what people like about Gears.
Plus, an epic, beautiful horde mode for GoW Trilogy, that uses Azure instead of Peer to Peer, therefore eliminating any host wonkery? That will literally print money.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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That's a carryover from last gen's up-ports.
We may end up with
Gears of War: Definitive Edition
or
Halo Quadrilogy: Legendary Edition
But probably not HD - that made more sense when upporting God of War or Shadow of the Colossus.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Halo 1, 2, 3 and 4 and multi all available as separate purchases... for 25 a pop. Or buy the whole thing for 60 up front.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
It would be criminal if they skipped reach and ODST. maybe do two collections, the halo collection and then a spinoff collection that puts reach, ODST, and halo wars on one disc.
Just because it's not included in the trilogy re-release doesn't mean that people will forget that it's there. :P
I'd love to see Crackdown 3. Plus. Crackdown had vague mentions during the One launch period, so I wouldn't be surprised to see something in that franchise fairly soon. The hilarity of killing zombies actually making more stronger zombies appear was amazing too.
That's also what I was thinking.
Halo: Master Chief Saga
Halo: Expanded Universe
edit: and honestly I don't think it would be smart for them to try re-releasing every multiplayer style across the series. Pick the most refined one, like 3 or 4, and make that the baseline with a core set of really good maps from across the series, the most popular game types, and dedicated servers.
If there are 7 different multiplayer games, there will be shit for a playerbase.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
I'd consider it an intelligent "reboot" more than anything else.
When you decide to start up an old franchise on a new platform, you get a lot of say on what to do with that first game, and I think creating a good, cohesive "hook" to carry 3 over to 4 would be more than enough to get people back on board.
I mean, people loved Batman Begins, and that was preceded by Arnold as Mr. Freeze.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Yeah, I think Rod being back on board will really help here. He'll definitely make sure things get back on track and I'm sure as little as possible will be said about Judgment. I bought and played Judgment, even had some fun with the multiplayer, but taking things back to how they were in Gears 3 is the right thing to do. I'm full of all kinds of hope for this new Gears game.
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It's probably time for a new main protagonist too, methinks.
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Not until the end of the month, January 30th. Could make a big difference from me. I'm not xpecting my tax money until Jan 31st at the earliest, and loaded up an amazon gift card to purchase it. I may contact amazon to see if they'll price match and extend the offer a few days. Also, it appears amazon has a few xbox one games for $50 instead of $60.
You forgot Smiling Jack and Wakka
ohh and all the generic baddies they fight are so voiced by dimaggio, like in the arkham games
It's like they aren't even trying
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I would love to see a price as well, or a count down to launch
Does anyone else who has Peggle 2 notice that it crashes without fail almost hourly? I've played it the least of all my games and it has definitely crashed the most, like 20 times and I've only played it for 4 hours. It just happened to me then as I was about to win a high score challenge, I'm almost done with playing it because it's so unreliable.
Also it's kind of weird that fable anniversary edition isn't coming to one
but I expect they'll advertise once it's in the store.
Annoyed they put the XBO port into lesser hands, but I bet once I start playing the game I won't notice the differences, especially since I don't own a PS4.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
What if you had both and just didn't care? :P
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This is a 12U rack. It occupies about 23.6 x 13.8 x 25 inches of space. Azure is basically a whole bunch of these, crammed into shipping containers (at a density of roughly 2500-3500 servers per shipping container) and all sitting in big ol' secured warehouses, hooked up to dedicated power/cooling/connectivity.
I got it Friday, Gamestop called me and I was like, well, I guess I can buy ONE MORE game on disc. It's wonderful!
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Unfortunately, it seems the xbone version actually regularly drops below 30 FPS.
Dropping below 30 FPS is really poor and pretty shocking frankly, which either indicates a poor porting job or the power discrepancy is bigger than some are making out.
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It's a last gen game and I highly doubt the Xbox One can't match the PS4 version's performance
The fact that it was put into lesser hands, and made less of a priority, though? That says something more dire than anything on the technical side
remember the PS3 was notoriously difficult to develop for at first which lead to some inferior ports as well, but eventually it evened out as developers learned the architecture.
But it never really did
The PS3 version has been getting lesser ports than the 360 version like 90% of the time, up to and including 2013
I can probably count on two hands the multiplat games that perform better on PS3 than 360 - Burnout Paradise, Saints Row 3 and 4, BioShock Infinite, L.A. Noire, GTAV...
Hell, even Tomb Raider itself was better on 360 than PS3
I also find "Just a bad port" a difficult explanation when it's a common thing across multiple multiplatform games. Something MS really needs to address early on.
in any case, it can clearly output at 1080p and do 60fps. it's up to devs to do quality ports rather than shove out whatever. BF4 managed to do both and it had a shitshow of a launch across 5 consoles. maybe if devs spent more time on the games in question, we'd get a better quality build of the game.
in the end, I am sure I will enjoy TR fine even at 25-30fps. and to be honest, I prefer a steady framerate over one the fluctuates wildly.
Nooooooo
XCOM and Far Cry 3 were games I actually had to run out and buy 360 versions of because the PS3 versions were so fucking atrocious