[Infamous: Second Son] I can't stand the rain.

Muffinatron

The paper trail has the PSN account link button now... it is getting absolutely hammered by traffic though

Edit: Took 10 or so tries but I got it done.

GnomeTank

So this game is one of the best looking games I've ever played. It puts me in a weird mental space, because as a PC gamer, I know my PC is capable of this and more, but on very few occasions do we actually see it even on the PC's incredible hardware. I have theories about this (mostly revolving around lowest common denominator situations), but it is what it is. Here's to hoping Second Son marks a break point where we'll start to see better looking games across the spectrum. I'm really excited to see what developers are capable of in a year or two, as they are able to take advantage of developing for a relatively unified architecture (if not set of API's) across the platforms.

ED!

Big Classy wrote: »

Also is it possible to get both evil and good upgrades on the same run or do you get locked out of the other?

You are not locked out in theory. Enemies and civvies respawn, enabling you to swing the Karma meter back in the other direction. However you need to be at the required level of Karma to unlock powers, and so (not sure) it might be only feasible to unlock a total Karma set of powers.

I wish it were easier. . .I would love the time dilation of Neon (and the branching powers - Time Dilation resets out of a Neon Dash) on a Bad Karma run.

Sagroth

Beat it in the early morning hours, got all shards. Haven't marathoned a game like this in ages. Excellent game. Best in the series by a large margin. Wish they'd get Paper Trail working, though. I'm nearly out of things to do!

Maddoc

Through incredible persistence I was able to get my shit linked to Paper Trail.

So it might be worth trying to brute force it to link.

Viskod

Blowing up D.U.P. Towers and walls never gets old. Also I sat down to play this for an hour this morning at 8 am and now it's almost 1pm?

Open world games don't usually grab me like this but I just love running around looking at the city.

I am suddenly envious of people that live in Seattle.

mxmarks

God can you imagine if the graphics are that good now, that you want to visit cities? It will be like the movie industry.

Tax breaks and funding for setting your game in beautiful Dover, Delaware!

Maddoc

Only works for some cities.

A realistic portrayal of Detroit would just scare the shit out of everyone.

nusu

Oh my poor hard drive. So many screen shots already. Like this:

https://twitter.com/spubiga/status/447408841982894080

GnomeTank

When do agents, stencil arts and audio logs show up on your map? I see people with them on the map, but they don't show up for me. I can't get any more control of most of the districts I've cleared because I can't find those things.

ED!

My only disappointment is that it's going to take Rockstar how long to come out with their offering for the system. . .my hope is 2016 see's a return to Red Dead, but I'm not too optimistic.

GnomeTank

Man, I hope we get a next gen Red Dead. RDR is still one of my favorite games from the last generation.

cooljammer00

Maddoc wrote: »

Only works for some cities.

A realistic portrayal of Detroit would just scare the shit out of everyone.

At least then you wouldn't have to worry about realism, offending the population, or having the city turn to rubble by the end.

David_T

GnomeTank wrote: »

When do agents, stencil arts and audio logs show up on your map? I see people with them on the map, but they don't show up for me. I can't get any more control of most of the districts I've cleared because I can't find those things.

Have you taken out the DUP trucks?

Muffinatron

Just finished it off. Loving it. Last battle might have been a lot easier if my R1 button didn't keep sticking. Need to get that sorted out.

Wish I'd retrieved more blast shards before doing the last mission too, upgraded a few concrete powers when I was in the battle but didn't have to do anything massive upgrade wise.

GnomeTank wrote: »

When do agents, stencil arts and audio logs show up on your map? I see people with them on the map, but they don't show up for me. I can't get any more control of most of the districts I've cleared because I can't find those things.

You have to blow up the DUP command centers in the area (They're big truck-trailer type things on the first peninsula-y bit)

You should have to do one really early on, just after you cross the bridge into Seattle, they show up on your map as a rectangle with D.U.P in the middle

Rhesus Positive

I'm not letting myself buy Second Son until I finish 2. Just picked it up again this afternoon, and I'm surprised I ever stopped; this series is so much fun.

curly haired boy

Viskod wrote: »

Blowing up D.U.P. Towers and walls never gets old. Also I sat down to play this for an hour this morning at 8 am and now it's almost 1pm?

Open world games don't usually grab me like this but I just love running around looking at the city.

I am suddenly envious of people that live in Seattle.

yeah that's what struck me the most

fallout 3 was not exactly a 'visit sunny D.C.' ad, but Second Son made me fall in love just a little with Seattle.

Muffinatron

Cleared all the zones now, I've got it to the point where I'll need to switch over to a new game and play through as Evil to get the other trophies (apart from the comet drop trophies, they're alluding me a bit). Going to wait until I've got the Paper Trail stuff done before I switch though.

For anyone worried about post-game:

You'll have D.U.P. raids on districts to contend with as well as the patrolling a.p.c.s moving around

GnomeTank

So I answered my own question about the extra side mission markers.

You need to complete the initial "get three relays" mission before agents/stencils/logs/hidden cams open up, DUP mobile command or otherwise.

never die

So I had a blast with this game, enjoyed every moment, from the different powers, the story (while predictable, was fun), the city, etc. My only complaints are I apparently accidentally shot down a drone unto the last boss area, and thus wasn't able to get it until the last thirty miniutes of the game. I guess my only complaint was how short the game was, it felt like I went through it too fast, and I even managed to 100% the game. Also,

I was really sad with how little time you have to play with the concrete powers, as they are a lot more fun they I thought it would be.

Muffinatron

never die wrote: »

Also,

I was really sad with how little time you have to play with the concrete powers, as they are a lot more fun they I thought it would be.

You get to use them all through post-game. I find they're ok in a battle situation but the vertical-traversal is dire. I'll usually get into a fight with D.U.P. with Video or Neon then when shit gets real, steal some Concrete off one of the bodies and bring the pain.

Viskod

There's a Frasier Easter Egg in the Lantern District. I was pleasantly surprised to find one.

never die

Muffinatron wrote: »

never die wrote: »

Also,

I was really sad with how little time you have to play with the concrete powers, as they are a lot more fun they I thought it would be.

You get to use them all through post-game. I find they're ok in a battle situation but the vertical-traversal is dire. I'll usually get into a fight with D.U.P. with Video or Neon then when shit gets real, steal some Concrete off one of the bodies and bring the pain.

What really is there to do post-game though? All I really have left is the paper trail part, which I still have yet to get to connect.

jeffinva

Whew finally linked my accounts for Paper Trail. Had to brute force the sucker for 15 minutes.

I guess the quest objective appears in-game now?

Edit: it helps to logon to PSN first in your current browser session, so that when the profile page on their ARG site finally loads you can just keep trying to submit the "link your account" link.

Muffinatron

never die wrote: »

Muffinatron wrote: »

never die wrote: »

Also,

I was really sad with how little time you have to play with the concrete powers, as they are a lot more fun they I thought it would be.

You get to use them all through post-game. I find they're ok in a battle situation but the vertical-traversal is dire. I'll usually get into a fight with D.U.P. with Video or Neon then when shit gets real, steal some Concrete off one of the bodies and bring the pain.

What really is there to do post-game though? All I really have left is the paper trail part, which I still have yet to get to connect.

I still had to clear out a few zones and get some blast shards. Plus I found the raids entertaining to destroy with extreme prejudice. I suppose it's not as good as actual story missions but I enjoyed it.

Hopefully Sucker Punch will add some DLC, perhaps some of the conduits you let loose at the end cause trouble in Seattle and Delsin has to deal with them?

never die

Muffinatron wrote: »

never die wrote: »

Muffinatron wrote: »

never die wrote: »

Also,

I was really sad with how little time you have to play with the concrete powers, as they are a lot more fun they I thought it would be.

You get to use them all through post-game. I find they're ok in a battle situation but the vertical-traversal is dire. I'll usually get into a fight with D.U.P. with Video or Neon then when shit gets real, steal some Concrete off one of the bodies and bring the pain.

What really is there to do post-game though? All I really have left is the paper trail part, which I still have yet to get to connect.

I still had to clear out a few zones and get some blast shards. Plus I found the raids entertaining to destroy with extreme prejudice. I suppose it's not as good as actual story missions but I enjoyed it.

Hopefully Sucker Punch will add some DLC, perhaps some of the conduits you let loose at the end cause trouble in Seattle and Delsin has to deal with them?

I actually think going to a different area might be fun too, but maybe too time consuming for a dlc. Maybe a new area of the city, a smaller part, or something like that?

Also raids?

Muffinatron

never die wrote: »

Muffinatron wrote: »

never die wrote: »

Muffinatron wrote: »

never die wrote: »

Also,

I was really sad with how little time you have to play with the concrete powers, as they are a lot more fun they I thought it would be.

You get to use them all through post-game. I find they're ok in a battle situation but the vertical-traversal is dire. I'll usually get into a fight with D.U.P. with Video or Neon then when shit gets real, steal some Concrete off one of the bodies and bring the pain.

What really is there to do post-game though? All I really have left is the paper trail part, which I still have yet to get to connect.

I still had to clear out a few zones and get some blast shards. Plus I found the raids entertaining to destroy with extreme prejudice. I suppose it's not as good as actual story missions but I enjoyed it.

Hopefully Sucker Punch will add some DLC, perhaps some of the conduits you let loose at the end cause trouble in Seattle and Delsin has to deal with them?

I actually think going to a different area might be fun too, but maybe too time consuming for a dlc. Maybe a new area of the city, a smaller part, or something like that?

Also raids?

Yes, raids. After I'd cleared out all the sections of the city I kept getting pop-ups saying "D.U.P. is raiding [district]".

Go there, and you'll find the place is swarming with D.U.P. in the location where the command center used to be

David_T

Muffinatron wrote: »

never die wrote: »

Also,

I was really sad with how little time you have to play with the concrete powers, as they are a lot more fun they I thought it would be.

You get to use them all through post-game. I find they're ok in a battle situation but the vertical-traversal is dire. I'll usually get into a fight with D.U.P. with Video or Neon then when shit gets real, steal some Concrete off one of the bodies and bring the pain.

I actually like the vertical traversal with concrete, because you don't need buildings. Boost jump with L1, then boost hover three times. If you're not where you need to be, land on something, jump off and boost hover again.

I mean, it's no video, for all your traversal needs, but it feels like old school InFamous.

Darth_Mogs

Yes, yes, I love this game exactly as much as I expected which was so much.

Is it weird that I fucking love tagging? Because I fucking love tagging. Excellent use of the controller in a strange way.

Maddoc

So unfortunately, the Paper Trail stuff seems to be broken in such a way that it causes issues in the actual game too.

When you complete part one, it tries to connect to the paper trail website and the game has had absolutely no luck with that for me.

Uselesswarrior

So as someone who really enjoyed Infamous 1, but then couldn't make it through Infamous 2 because it was largely just more of the same, I'm curious what they've done to the core gameplay since 2 to make it worth coming back to?

Muffinatron

Started my evil play through on expert, going pretty well. Due to the fact I'm used to the control scheme and everything now I'm actually finding it a bit easier if anything, that and getting evil karma is so much easier when you just have to butcher civilians.

One thing I hadn't noticed before was that the lightbar on the DS4 changes with your alignment, white for neutral through to bright blue or bright red for hero and infamous respectively.

I also found that some of the phone conversations you have change a little based on your previous actions.

Maddoc wrote: »

So unfortunately, the Paper Trail stuff seems to be broken in such a way that it causes issues in the actual game too.

When you complete part one, it tries to connect to the paper trail website and the game has had absolutely no luck with that for me.

It took a few tries but I managed that bit. At least you don't have to run through the entire mission again, you just have to go to the start point and press up on the d-pad. Good luck getting any further though because there's 4 things you need to do on the paper trail website, I only managed to get 1 to load, had no luck since.

Fig-D

Its a shame Paper Trail isn't working, because the rest of the game was a blast. I'll probably give it a break for a week before starting an Evil playthrough. I hadn't played a game from start to finish in a couple days like that in a long while.

Muffinatron

Papertrail website is working absolutely perfectly right now.

So the key is to stay up until 3:45a.m. and go on then...

I should probably go to bed.

Edit:
Did the online stuff, onto the second in-game mission... but I'll leave that for tomorrow.

If anyone gets stuck here's a clue:

Email address

Maddoc

Not quite perfectly

There's a problem with the second section they're still trying to fix

Going to give it a try tomorrow

CarbonFire

Finished up my Normal Evil playthrough, and holy crap Delsin is an even bigger dick than Cole ever was. Some of his actions felt a little incongruous with his general demeanor and disposition, to the point I think they should have made him more of an asshole early on in the game.

Took around 13 hours, not rushing, and finished at around 85% complete. Enjoyed it from beginning to end, so much so that I'm jumping right back in for an Expert Good playthrough, because I hate myself :rotate:

Big Classy

I am sending so much time just chasing DUP patrol trucks and random gangs.

Dhalphir

Uselesswarrior wrote: »

So as someone who really enjoyed Infamous 1, but then couldn't make it through Infamous 2 because it was largely just more of the same, I'm curious what they've done to the core gameplay since 2 to make it worth coming back to?

I don't understand why "more of the same" prevents you from playing a game when "the same" was something you really enjoyed.

Bubby

Dhalphir wrote: »

Uselesswarrior wrote: »

So as someone who really enjoyed Infamous 1, but then couldn't make it through Infamous 2 because it was largely just more of the same, I'm curious what they've done to the core gameplay since 2 to make it worth coming back to?

I don't understand why "more of the same" prevents you from playing a game when "the same" was something you really enjoyed.

By that logic why should someone spend $60 on more of the same when they can just replay the first game? Repetition sucks, I couldn't get into Infamous 2 for the same reason, they hardly added or changed anything.

jeffinva

Big Classy wrote: »

I am sending so much time just chasing DUP patrol trucks and random gangs.

I spent an hour dismantling DUP structures and fences.