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We're now 1 week away from the big event. Do any of you guys have a budget or upper limit you are going to spend on pins at East? I've tried to work it out in my head, figuring at least 2, maybe 4, of each pin, and then my head explodes. $300? $500? Just keep swiping your card until it gets declined?
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PAX East 10th Anniversary Pin x 2 $30.00
Scarf $25.00 (Merch 2014 Pin #1)
PAX East 2014 Set x 2 $60.00
PAX East 10th Anniversary Pin x 2 $30.00
????? $10.00 (Merch 2014 Pin #2)
PAX East 2014 Set x 2 $60.00
PAX East 10th Anniversary Pin x 2 $30.00
????? $10.00 (Merch 2014 Pin #3)
Ellie x 3 $45.00
MC Frontalot x 3 $30.00
The Behemoth x 40 $200.00
Table Titans x 3 $45.00
Broodhollow x 3 $30.00
Camp Weedonwantcha x 3 $30
Which adds up to $695.00 (Minimum), more if the Bandland Pins are more than $10 each, I figured Val might be $15 just because I don't know. I'm not sure of the exact price on all of these, if anyone knows the prices for sure, please share!
So... multiple that by two... $1400!
2x East Core
2x Pax Ann.
(1x Merch)
7x Behemoth
1x Broodhollow
1x KI Fightstixk
1x Last of Us (maybe)
That is maybe $145 or so. No way am I getting every pin and 2,000 extra. I might attempt for the free ones if I feel like wasting time.
I might be tempted to get a few extra East sets for later down the road.
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I was under the impression that the Table Titans pin was a kickstarter exclusive.
It's the only reason I pledged as high as I did.
If I could have just gotten it for $15 at the booth I never would have put in such a high pledge.
I have to say I'm going to be pretty upset if I just spent so much more money for that pin than I needed to.
As for my budget...
I have to get stuff for my group, so I believe I'm getting a minimum of 6 sets of everything I can get my hands on so we all have at least 1 for our collection and 1 for trade.
I can't even begin to calculate what I'll likely spend
We don't know what the price will be, but yes, Scott has said that the pin will be at the booth until it sells out. We can assume going forward, that any non-PA kickstarter pins' will total at least 1000.
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Since there were so many questions on how many pins they had to order I specifically ask 300 or 1000 and they confirmed 1000 about a week ago.
Also, remember you can always lower your pledge on the Kickstarter.
I just don't know if it's worth pledging $100 to the kickstarter for that pin... I don't care about special cover treatment and a print... I just want the book and the pin. I already dropped my pledge amount when I saw what the beholder dice bag looked like...
I'm tempted to try my luck at the booth or with a trade.
I feel like it's going to be hard to get these low run pins like the 10th anniversary and stuff because people are going to buy multiple.
The only pin I think that sold out was Skull Fart, right? Chainsawsuit is STILL available, and Pigglesworth was available after PAX for at least a few days iirc. Stripsearch is a different monster, but maybe Katie will have some at East. (will any other StripSearchers be there?)
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At ECCC last weekend, both Amy and Erika had pins for sale on Friday. I did not notice any of the others (Abby, Katie, Mackensize, Tavis) selling but they might be saving them for East. I purchased one from Amy during the last few hours of the show on Sunday and she still had a few left, so I assume she will have some. I see Amy, Maki and Tavis will also be at East. Not sure if anyone else.
That's probably true. Pretty much the only reason I'm going to PAX East is to collect pins (from Seattle).
Merch Booth - $200
Vending Machines - $200
Bandland + Ellie - $100
I'm not in a group, so I want to get extra stuff to trade for whatever's gonna be at Aus.
I say all of this until next Friday when all bets are off. Haha.
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Edit: I forgot the Behemoth pins.
I spent less at Behemoth because they raised the price from $5 to $10 each. Most of the Bandland purchasable ones were $15 instead of $10, so that was a little more than I had thought it would be. Overall, I guess I'm a little under budget.
PAX East Sets - 120
10th Anniversary - 60
Vending Machines - 140
Ellie - 30
MC Frontalot - 20
Kris Straub - 30
Katie Rice - 30
Scott Kurtz - 15
I didn't expect to, really. There is always more there that I want than I first thought of. I got a lot of sketches this time, and bought the PATV DVDs.
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They said that they were basically making nothing on them at Prime. They also said that they felt like they were undercutting other companies trying to sell pins(which could be true if they did care about that) so they raised it to $10.
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This is what I heard from somebody on the expo hall floor too. If it's true I think it's a pretty lame move by PA, but who knows?
Honestly it could have been a combination of the two. One thing that we need to prepare for is the more popular these pins get, the more expensive the vendors may sale them for. Not saying that it will happen…but it is always a possibility. The pins at Prime that you could buy were all $10 or less. The pins at East were 10-$25, and most vendors were $15 instead of $10. My point being that we still bought the pins we had to.
The more popular this gets, the easier it will be for vendors to raise the price on us.
Just a potential look into the future..
While I don't like prices going up myself, I understand it. The up side everyone should acknowledge, is that this make pin trading that much more real and something that will be around for a long time. It also keeps the values of pins at a decent rate.
Personally I would stop pin trading if pins were worth nothing or super easy to get. The exclusivity and difficulty in getting pins is what makes it so fun to do.
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At a minimum order of 1000, these cost maybe $1.50 to produce. I believe PA would tell Behemoth to mark it up a bit to stop undercutting sales, but not that they were not making money at $5. $10 and a random purchase makes those a lot more lame going forward.
This is misleading in a way. I originally thought this myself, but after talking to Scott for an hour on Saturday I found it was not the case.
The pins might cost PA $1.50 to make, yes, but Scott said that PA charges a licensing fee to have the Pinny Arcade printed on the back...and he said it was a decent chunk of money. With that being said, at $10 a pin he said that they really weren't making much on the pins and that they were more for the fans that it brings in and being part of the PA trading program.
If the artists truly aren't making much money off of the pins it is their choice if they decide that the pins have to come with another sale in my opinion. Yes...it sucks in those instances if you don't want the merch, but the simple solution is to find someone who is going to buy the merch and ask if they will buy you a pin if you give them money. It is honestly no different then spending $99 to get the merch pin.
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I meant that $10 and getting a random pin in the Behemoth machines is less fun. No problem at all with the idea of adding it on to a book sale or whatever.
I pumped a ton of cash into the Behemoth machines at Prime, and didn't care what I got since they were just a fun, cheap way to get a mitt full of pins to walk around and trade with people. At double the price, I don't think I'd do that again.
You did see much less actual trading going on around the machines. There was only once that I was ask if I would trade "x" for "y" at the Behemoth machines. I do personally wish also the price hadn't gone up, but I completely understand the reasoning for it.
Totally understand the reasoning, but at $10, take out the random buy aspect is all I'm saying.
Just ran the numbers, I ended up spending $686 on Pins (used my debit card to purchase 2 MC Frontalot Pins which had a surcharge of $1), much less than anticipated. The lower amount was mainly because of The Behemoth price hike and the lower amount of new Pins they had, it made them easier to acquire and trade for I think. The bulk of my spending was at the PA Merch Booth, infact 65.59% (approximately two-thirds) of all the money spent on Pins went there.
Good lord man, how many pins did you buy?
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