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[PA Comic] Monday, May 5, 2014 - Hearthboned
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The comic dose also pose an interesting mechanic for the game: Persistent field effects. That could change up the dynamics of the game, but of course they would have to be tested really well to make sure they weren't OP.
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You will be so thrilled you may cry out the very name of the card, or at least some pithy expression utilizing part of same.
For example: The Hunter Explosive-trap secret only costs like 2 to play, but it has the power to clear the board early game. It has equal devastation as consecrate, and yet Consecrate costs 4 to play.
Secrets get extra budget due to the fact that the opponent determines when to trigger it (sometimes can't be helped or often unknowingly) but the point is that the caster doesn't necessarily get the effect when he wants it. They must also all cost the same for a class or you'd know what they are based on their cost, which limits what they can do to some extent.
In short, they're annoying to both play and play against.
I don't know of any competitive paladin decks that use secrets. There really isn't much of a place for 1-drops in the paladin meta, and certainly not for their secrets.
Mage secrets have come and gone, but mages are pretty damn low in the meta right now, and the decks that are in the meat don't really use secrets. Mage secrets were a bigger deal before the freeze spell and pyro nerfs in the freeze/stall/double pyro decks, and even then they were usually just running things like Ice Block and Ice Barrier to help with the stall, and those are two of the least frustrating secrets since they don't kill your minions or copy a big minion you just played or anything like that.
Edit: What Menasor said. Explosive Trap rarely works out to be as effective as "Consecrate for 2" since your opponent will usually trade against anything on your side before triggering it, giving you less value out of it.
Today, I was caused physical pain as a side effect of my uncontrollable mirth.
Comedy mithril.
People don't care about the spirit of competition. They care about finding absurd loopholes to fuck you through.
I felt BAD for it.
The hunter deck is not a good thing. Even playing it... it's just bad mechanics.
you're trying to make the joke too complicated, dude. It works better as is, because a lot of folks who read the comic don't play this game.
Kinda like in this comic...
Coincidence?
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I sort of think you already know this, but I'm going to reply to your post taking it at face value.
Imagine a massive game of Rock-Paper-Scissors, arranged as per Hearthstone's ranked play: when you win a match you gain a star, when you lose a match you lose a star, when you gain enough stars you gain a rank, and you play only against people of the same rank.
Suppose further that for some reason (scissors are the coolest! scissors are cheap! I hear scissors are easy!) 80% of the players choose "scissors" as their first play.
What would happen?
Well, the 10% who picked rocks would shoot up the ranks. They'd keep on meeting people playing scissors, and keep winning, until they got past all the scissors. The 10% who picked paper would keep losing, and they'd go to the forums saying "nerf scissors" and talk about how unbalanced the game is, and about how they've chosen the paper class, and they really identify with paper, and should have a chance at winning with it. Some of them might think "if you can't beat them, join them", and switch to scissors, leading to even more scissors. And as for the scissors players, some of them, by luck, would get winning streaks (let's assume if you both play scissors you have a 50/50 chance of winning) and start to rise. When the lucky scissors players rose far enough, they'd meet all the Rock players who'd shot past them, and hit a wall. Some of them would be so committed to scissors by this point they'd just keep banging their scissors against the rocks. But when everyone you meet is playing rock, when you know the right time, the right thing to do is to switch to paper. You know, that underpowered class that scissors chopped up into little bits? Just the thing to wrap up some rocks. The better people were at switching class, they higher up they'd get, so whilst at the bottom you had a big fat band of scissors, and above that a smaller band of rocks, and above that a smaller band of paper, at the very top you'd get all sorts all mixed together, and if a top level paper player met some scissors, they'd have a think about whether that meant it was time to switch to rock, or that if everyone else is meeting scissors and switching to rock the smart thing to do might be to stay paper...
So. Approaching Hearthstone having decided on your class in advance and that you "disenchant cards for all but three classes" is like approaching a game of Rock-Paper-Scissors and vowing only ever to play Paper. Or at the very least, saying "No Hunters, though. Just on principle" means you're never going to play scissors.
I thought they seemed cool - and from scanning the set, not OP - but I wasn't playing at the time.
Anyway, my point is if Hearthstone has 'traps' now, fear not... your equivilant to Jace, the Mind Sculpter can't be far behind.
What's the punchline behind the Healon Drah card? I feel like it's a reference to some other joke that has the format "You X and Y and X and Y." Or am I overthinking this?
If I'm understanding how MTG traps work (instants that are cheaper in particular circumstance?), they're more like Yu-Gi-Oh traps. They're cards that are played in advance, and can only activate on certain conditions. So in hearthstone, there are cards like:
Explosive Trap: When your hero is attacked, deal 2 damage to all enemies.
Currently, the only way to deal with secrets is with the spell card Flare. Which is a hunter exclusive card.
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So basically Secrets are what Traps originally were.
I need to re-listen to MaRo's Zendikar podcast. I forget what the reasons wre that Traps were changed. In a way it makes more sense the way it ended up since you can have no idea a 'trap' is even coming.
But since HS doesn't have Instants, this makes sense for them.
But yeah. They are basically Traps.
Decks should have a ranking or something so that when you are starting out you aren't paired with someone who has a vastly superior deck with epics and rare cards.
That's like letting a end game gear PVP player into the starting zone to face melt noobs. It's not fun for the beginner. Why would I spend money on the 'possibility' of good cards and still have a bad experience?
If you got a good deck, click on ranked, not casual.