I just want to be clear, because I think I'm being misrepresented a little.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be voting out people we think are suspicious. I'm saying that absent other information, it's better to vote out people ahead of you, or more precisely, people that make it more likely for you personally to be the champion.
Further, it's not beneficial for a small number of people to be way ahead going into the last day.
I'm interested to know why QS and Assuran are more suspicious that Lucedes, because right now it seems like there's a lot of people protecting her for no reason, and voting for others for no reason.
The dilemma, as I see it, is that it is entirely possible that there is no seer. We aren't meant to know that the race leader is mafia or not, with any certainty. Villagers can only know that they are not mafia, and make educated guesses regarding things like vote records and behavior. So, every villager wants to make certain that he wins, as that is the only 100% way to be sure that their win condition is being satisfied. This incentivizes things like attacking race leaders, with some preference based on villagers judgement calls regarding the likelihood of one of the leaders being a mafia.
If we average 3 eliminations per day, especially of people higher up, people in the bottom 12 right now all have a chance at winning.
There is a chance of significantly higher kill numbers, as we have 2 guaranteed, the chance of people crashing on their own, and the likelihood the race leaders have of being attacked and suffering an elimination.
I just said he wasn't active yesterady per the rules (that is no posts or vote). If there is no replacement available, if I'm reading this correctly he will be removed as this would be the second day.
It is expected that players do at least two of the following three things each day to be considered sufficiently active: make at least two posts, make a vote, submit private actions. A warning will be sent on the first day that this requirement is not met, and a replacement will be made on the second consecutive day of inactivity or third day overall. If there are no replacements available, then the inactive player will be eliminated from the game. Inactive players will make no attacks and their actions will follow Balanced / Standard race settings.
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
So frustrating to search on the phone, but Phyphor is usually more helpful in games like this I think.
just to clarify in terms of "third day overall"
Player is inactive on day 1
Player is inactive on day 2
No replacements are available.
Is said player removed at the end of day 2/beginning of day 3?
I read it as "if a replacement is available they will come in on the third day" but wanted to make sure.
I just said he wasn't active yesterady per the rules (that is no posts or vote). If there is no replacement available, if I'm reading this correctly he will be removed as this would be the second day.
You're right. I'm confused and thought his Day 2 vote was for Day 3.
Consequently, I'll join the MrT voters, as I think he's probably up to something.
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Sir FabulousMalevolent Squid GodRegistered Userregular
Yes hello I got a new job and it is crazy because the person who used to have my job made promises he couldn't keep.
I hear that MrT is the hot vote for today, yessirr.
Yes hello I got a new job and it is crazy because the person who used to have my job made promises he couldn't keep.
I hear that MrT is the hot vote for today, yessirr.
Yeah, I am unexpectedly back on nights after changing jobs so I could not be working nights anymore.
"Oh, no, I can only fit you in part-time," somehow led to 40 hours a week overnight. Suffice it to say that I'm not super-happy with how this move turned out.
just to clarify in terms of "third day overall"
Player is inactive on day 1
Player is inactive on day 2
No replacements are available.
Is said player removed at the end of day 2/beginning of day 3?
I read it as "if a replacement is available they will come in on the third day" but wanted to make sure.
A player will be removed from the game after two consecutive days of inactivity or after being inactive for three days at any time throughout a game. Granted, the latter condition doesn't matter as much in a game with a set, short length, but that's just a standard condition in my games.
if i were the mafia, i would 100% try to vote me out.
it saves them from having to use their power on me, and it's pretty damn easy to gun for the frontrunner.
it's also really easy to get the village to find any prominent figure suspicious.
i mean, usually i try not to post this much, villager or mafia, just based on the "squeaky wheel gets voted out" principle.
being #1 at racing makes this... well... difficult.
re: logic. part information gathering , part wrong place wrong time and part "you aren't making as much sense as usual"
you were one of the competing wagons with Trust. Albeit if things stayed tied Trust would have still died. You put in a late vote for Gizzy when it was clear she was going down. You are putting out logic that doesn't quite feel right to me at least. I feel like you tend to have more cohesive arguments when you are village, but maybe the tactics argument is just lost on me.
Information is gained either way you turn out.
Now if one gets enraged by "doesn't feel quite right to you". Well information is gained as said, it will be known that said stuff was said in earnest as opposed to an attempt to mislead.
edit: also you aren't doing poorly in the races...which doesn't help
So, this seems fairly similar to my Mario Kart game. Mafia didn't have a straight kill, cause that would just be broken. Same win condition, mafia take 1st, village loses. Stupid easy if there is an unrestricted kill, but it does seem like there is some kind of mafia elimination as Egos has highlighted.
I've looked at it a few ways and haven't quite matched up a lot of my theories, but I'll go with !QuestionablySane out of the votes since he was "behind" the last two nights mafia victims.
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Did he post in between you sending pms? Maybe he's completely inactive?
what's this in reference to? He is sending in race orders at least, but that isn't enough to stay active.
e: I don't see any votes or posts from him yesterday (one of which he was required to do along sending in an action):Day Start ---Day End
So unless he does one of the following within the next few hours, he is gone. Right? Or am I reading the inactivity rules incorrectly.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be voting out people we think are suspicious. I'm saying that absent other information, it's better to vote out people ahead of you, or more precisely, people that make it more likely for you personally to be the champion.
Further, it's not beneficial for a small number of people to be way ahead going into the last day.
I'm interested to know why QS and Assuran are more suspicious that Lucedes, because right now it seems like there's a lot of people protecting her for no reason, and voting for others for no reason.
Confusion will be my epitaph
No time to really post today.
There is a chance of significantly higher kill numbers, as we have 2 guaranteed, the chance of people crashing on their own, and the likelihood the race leaders have of being attacked and suffering an elimination.
because 1/4 of the playerbase is likely mafia and others expect him to make a last minute reach for activity*.
or aren't paying attention/actively being lazy
Plus, I'm pretty sure Egos was mistaken about that, as he appears to have been active per the rules both days so far, so far as I'm aware.
Player is inactive on day 1
Player is inactive on day 2
No replacements are available.
Is said player removed at the end of day 2/beginning of day 3?
I read it as "if a replacement is available they will come in on the third day" but wanted to make sure.
You're right. I'm confused and thought his Day 2 vote was for Day 3.
Consequently, I'll join the MrT voters, as I think he's probably up to something.
I hear that MrT is the hot vote for today, yessirr.
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Yeah, I am unexpectedly back on nights after changing jobs so I could not be working nights anymore.
"Oh, no, I can only fit you in part-time," somehow led to 40 hours a week overnight. Suffice it to say that I'm not super-happy with how this move turned out.
to be safe
A player will be removed from the game after two consecutive days of inactivity or after being inactive for three days at any time throughout a game. Granted, the latter condition doesn't matter as much in a game with a set, short length, but that's just a standard condition in my games.
What?
People wagoning people for no reason and specifically not talking about the arguments.
it saves them from having to use their power on me, and it's pretty damn easy to gun for the frontrunner.
it's also really easy to get the village to find any prominent figure suspicious.
i mean, usually i try not to post this much, villager or mafia, just based on the "squeaky wheel gets voted out" principle.
being #1 at racing makes this... well... difficult.
also, stop revealing my strategy!
you were one of the competing wagons with Trust. Albeit if things stayed tied Trust would have still died. You put in a late vote for Gizzy when it was clear she was going down. You are putting out logic that doesn't quite feel right to me at least. I feel like you tend to have more cohesive arguments when you are village, but maybe the tactics argument is just lost on me.
Information is gained either way you turn out.
Now if one gets enraged by "doesn't feel quite right to you". Well information is gained as said, it will be known that said stuff was said in earnest as opposed to an attempt to mislead.
edit: also you aren't doing poorly in the races...which doesn't help
I've looked at it a few ways and haven't quite matched up a lot of my theories, but I'll go with !QuestionablySane out of the votes since he was "behind" the last two nights mafia victims.
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