How do they feel operating robotic arms for car factories?
How do they feel operating robotic arms for robot factories?
How smart does a machine need to qualify for sentience? Maybe those robot arms are already sentient?
Why are these questions being raised when the main character of the story has had seemingly no personal development at all even though this comic has been running for like a decade now?
The half-dozen alternate egos the main character has split around the cast of characters appearing and disappearing represent personal demons the entity known as Marten has
Why does a comic strip that's never set out to be anything other than a drama comedy strip with intentionally random humor have to answer these questions?
Wouldn't a lot of character development look weird in a strip where roughly 7-8 months of time has passed over the course of 10 years?
Why does the "we don't like robots" storyline automatically have to be about racism? Did JJ say it was about racism? Couldn't it just as easily be a metaphor for ableism? Also, since when is the "some people don't like robots" storyline "new?" There were a couple of strips centered around Momo that touched on that issue.
Why does a comic strip that's never set out to be anything other than a drama comedy strip with intentionally random humor have to answer these questions?
Wouldn't a lot of character development look weird in a strip where roughly 7-8 months of time has passed over the course of 10 years?
Why does the "we don't like robots" storyline automatically have to be about racism? Did JJ say it was about racism? Couldn't it just as easily be a metaphor for ableism? Also, since when is the "some people don't like robots" storyline "new?" There were a couple of strips centered around Momo that touched on that issue.
Because when you introduce more complex issues and start making references to sentient robots and the Civil Rights movement, it stops being a light-drama comedy with random humor.
It's a really weird, abrupt shift in tone and content that doesn't fit with the vast majority of the rest of the strip. The few times it's come up have raised more questions than answers, and every time more information gets revealed it seems to contradict that the majority of the characters in this post-singularity society live completely banal lives indistinguishable from the experiences of middle-class westerners.
Like if you apply any critical thinking to the world at all it just falls apart.
And if you apply any critical thinking to Calvin and Hobbes it becomes a horribly depressing strip about a mentally ill kid nobody's willing to help.
It's still one of the best, funniest syndicated comic strips ever written.
The argument is based off the idea that the perspective for most of the story, dull midwestern dramas, clashes with the science fiction elements
Calvin and Hobbes doesn't have that problem because the existence of an imaginary tiger friend ties together the fantastical and the banal. It isn't some weird side thing so much as the entire point.
I feel the criticism is overblown with how much of an issue it is to folks, but it's not something of the quality of Calvin and Hobbes and the execution has some problems.
And if you apply any critical thinking to Calvin and Hobbes it becomes a horribly depressing strip about a mentally ill kid nobody's willing to help.
If that's what you're getting out of Calvin and Hobbes, I think you've really missed both the context and authorial intent of the strip. That isn't critical thinking.
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And if you apply any critical thinking to Calvin and Hobbes it becomes a horribly depressing strip about a mentally ill kid nobody's willing to help.
If that's what you're getting out of Calvin and Hobbes, I think you've really missed both the context and authorial intent of the strip. That isn't critical thinking.
That isn't what I get out of Calvin and Hobbes at all, which was kind of the point.
In Calvin and Hobbes, there is the occasional strip that implies something's wrong with Calvin that could be addressed with help, like the one where Uncle Max asks Calvin's Mom if she's worried about Calvin because of his attachment to his imaginary friend, and the one where Calvin imagines himself as an alien during "show and tell" when one of the kids asks their teacher if he belongs in a "special school." But that's not what Watterson wanted to do with the strip.
Likewise, I don't think JJ ever intends on making his strip into a big thing about post-singularity-ness and has constructed his strip to support this. There is, in fact, a completeconversation about why nobody's all hyped up about the singularity. He only occasionally touches on the issue of AI civil rights, and when he does, it's generally not a particularly long storyline.
So, to make a long story short, that was my snippy way of saying I think you've missed the context and authorial intent of the strip in a way that masquerades as critical thinking, but really actually isn't.
I hate this storyline because that robot going to all these different locations is fucking wrecking my theory that QC is some Beckettesque traumady that all takes place in a one square block radius in the middle of a vast empty wasteland
I recently finished going through Voyager on Netflix, with the whole Doctor's struggle for rights and all that. Made me think, like, sure, most people watching the show would agree that the Doctor is a real dude who deserves real rights and the opportunity to do what he wants. But, if you give him those rights, then what motivation is there to keep producing holo-docs? What happens if you ship out 500 of the guys, and within six months 450 of them have quit to go become opera singers? Do you start pumping them out by the thousands, just to keep the handful that actually want to do what you made them for? And completely flood out the market for human opera singers in the process?
Seems like the only ethical and practical option is to never make human-level sentient AIs at all, at least not in any real numbers.
I recently finished going through Voyager on Netflix, with the whole Doctor's struggle for rights and all that. Made me think, like, sure, most people watching the show would agree that the Doctor is a real dude who deserves real rights and the opportunity to do what he wants. But, if you give him those rights, then what motivation is there to keep producing holo-docs? What happens if you ship out 500 of the guys, and within six months 450 of them have quit to go become opera singers? Do you start pumping them out by the thousands, just to keep the handful that actually want to do what you made them for? And completely flood out the market for human opera singers in the process?
Seems like the only ethical and practical option is to never make human-level sentient AIs at all, at least not in any real numbers.
Or at the very least, don't make them with the intention of using them as tools
A tool doesn't need to have aspirations and inner thoughts and feelings, and giving a tool those things is counterproductive at best and cruel at worst
If you're gonna make a robo surgeon then all you need for it to know is the sum total of human medicine, and have the appendages to manipulate whatever surgical instruments it would need
Giving it the capacity to appreciate opera is less than pointless.
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The half-dozen alternate egos the main character has split around the cast of characters appearing and disappearing represent personal demons the entity known as Marten has
Wouldn't a lot of character development look weird in a strip where roughly 7-8 months of time has passed over the course of 10 years?
Why does the "we don't like robots" storyline automatically have to be about racism? Did JJ say it was about racism? Couldn't it just as easily be a metaphor for ableism? Also, since when is the "some people don't like robots" storyline "new?" There were a couple of strips centered around Momo that touched on that issue.
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Because when you introduce more complex issues and start making references to sentient robots and the Civil Rights movement, it stops being a light-drama comedy with random humor.
It's a really weird, abrupt shift in tone and content that doesn't fit with the vast majority of the rest of the strip. The few times it's come up have raised more questions than answers, and every time more information gets revealed it seems to contradict that the majority of the characters in this post-singularity society live completely banal lives indistinguishable from the experiences of middle-class westerners.
Like if you apply any critical thinking to the world at all it just falls apart.
It's still one of the best, funniest syndicated comic strips ever written.
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i dunno what more you need to say that it is a subtle metaphor for racism
Then truly will the WHOMP! dream be fulfilled
The argument is based off the idea that the perspective for most of the story, dull midwestern dramas, clashes with the science fiction elements
Calvin and Hobbes doesn't have that problem because the existence of an imaginary tiger friend ties together the fantastical and the banal. It isn't some weird side thing so much as the entire point.
I feel the criticism is overblown with how much of an issue it is to folks, but it's not something of the quality of Calvin and Hobbes and the execution has some problems.
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If that's what you're getting out of Calvin and Hobbes, I think you've really missed both the context and authorial intent of the strip. That isn't critical thinking.
And it is mine
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A great way to cap off a thrilling cave adventure is to return home by a method that will probably kill 80% of your pals.
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That isn't what I get out of Calvin and Hobbes at all, which was kind of the point.
In Calvin and Hobbes, there is the occasional strip that implies something's wrong with Calvin that could be addressed with help, like the one where Uncle Max asks Calvin's Mom if she's worried about Calvin because of his attachment to his imaginary friend, and the one where Calvin imagines himself as an alien during "show and tell" when one of the kids asks their teacher if he belongs in a "special school." But that's not what Watterson wanted to do with the strip.
Likewise, I don't think JJ ever intends on making his strip into a big thing about post-singularity-ness and has constructed his strip to support this. There is, in fact, a complete conversation about why nobody's all hyped up about the singularity. He only occasionally touches on the issue of AI civil rights, and when he does, it's generally not a particularly long storyline.
So, to make a long story short, that was my snippy way of saying I think you've missed the context and authorial intent of the strip in a way that masquerades as critical thinking, but really actually isn't.
Calvin is often shown being actually ruffed up from Hobbes tackling him. His mom even comments in it sometimes
Clearly he is getting beaten up at school and the fantasy of Hobbes tackling him to say hello is a way to mitigate the emotional pain that causes
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Seems like the only ethical and practical option is to never make human-level sentient AIs at all, at least not in any real numbers.
Or at the very least, don't make them with the intention of using them as tools
A tool doesn't need to have aspirations and inner thoughts and feelings, and giving a tool those things is counterproductive at best and cruel at worst
If you're gonna make a robo surgeon then all you need for it to know is the sum total of human medicine, and have the appendages to manipulate whatever surgical instruments it would need
Giving it the capacity to appreciate opera is less than pointless.
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But once it ends it will be printed.
The quandary.
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Wow, nice.
I get it the way I want without the strange curious looks one would expect
Chuck him off the goddamn roof
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Arya and the Hound from GoT in the second panel? Looks like it.
There are tons of things hidden in the background of every battlepug