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[Phalla] indie series: Snitch - FBI (Snitch) Victory

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  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    OoOooOoOoOoO

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    OoOoOoOoOOo

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    OOOOOOooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Y'all have SHIT aim.

    ooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Welp. See y'all at pax

  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    that went well

    And thanks for the parting comment which could taint the game ahava :P

    conversions?

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  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    conversions?

    Always CD

  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    All PMs are out. If you think you should have gotten one, please let me know.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Never have I felt better about not voting with the herd, but boy, that sure lends an entirely different complexion to the wagon on Gizzy.

  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    ...this seems to have gone poorly.

  • FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    Well. That sure was something.
    At least I was right in trusting Ebum I guess.
    :neutral_face:

  • SepahSepah Registered User regular
    Wow. So, the village specials were networked, and one of the village specials got converted? Is that what we're thinking?

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    mafia likely targeted ebum because of the abrupt swing away from him, havs is luck

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  • FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    Is there really any merit to the conversions thing?
    I read Ketbra's "confirmed conversions are in the game" as a snide reply to Ebum's "I made them an offer they couldn't refuse." and then Ahava just seems to be commenting on that.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    I can confirm that ebum was trying to swing the vote off him by pm; I'd like to think that's a misunderstanding but if I were writing this game, given the theme, I'd definitely have considered this being a cultist-friendly setup.

    I'd also have considered a serial-killer type snitch who, for whatever reason, also wants to get rid of the other snitches. This, I think, is less likely from Obi, but the snitch-cult hypothesis has some chance of being true.

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    There cannot be cultists because the point of the game is the vote record and the vote record has no value if a person's alignment is not consistent.

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    There cannot be cultists because the point of the game is the vote record and the vote record has no value if a person's alignment is not consistent.

    Sure it does. It swaps the theme of the game such that we're rewarded for detecting alignment switches via the vote record. Same idea, different angle to come at it from.

    That said, I doubt the conversion idea mostly because the favor-point mechanic seems to be assuming that we really want to have at least two favors to call in before it gets useful, but has entries for much higher totals. As such, it'd be really hard to reach them without a regular-sized mafia.

    Plus, as we saw in Niceville, just throwing a cultist out there alone is really tough for the village to pin down if the leader plays it at all well.

    So chances are something got misinterpreted there or the bad-guys have a Favor system of their own and converting people into snitches is one of the things they can buy. If so, it's probably not cheap.

  • CesareBCesareB Registered User regular
    I think the conversion talk is a pointless distraction. Possible but just barely that ebum converted ahava from a standard villager into the lieutenant but otherwise I'm gonna say no.

    Auralynx I really need some favor and I wasted last night's vote. Sorry bud.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    See, if it were coming from bad-guys I'd agree, but given who brought it up and the specialcaust we just had, I'm trying to find an explanation for it.

    You're going to be disappointed if you think I'm worth a favor as a vote target, however.

  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Well, on the bright side, at least I know how much favor I have now

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
  • LucedesLucedes Registered User regular
    well, i know i have a maximum possible favor of 1, at this point.

    i'll vote for kime again,
    because it seems like a solid strategy for me to focus on seering one person through vote record (if possible) and another with the seer power (if the first person's mafia).

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    The conversion conversation is converting the conversation into a conversation about conversions.

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  • MegafrostMegafrost Leader of the Decepticons Registered User regular
    Convenient.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Lucedes wrote: »
    well, i know i have a maximum possible favor of 1, at this point.

    i'll vote for kime again,
    because it seems like a solid strategy for me to focus on seering one person through vote record (if possible) and another with the seer power (if the first person's mafia).

    I don't know about that Lucedes. Capfalcon seems to have that covered, if we can trust him.

    As it is, it's pretty apparent that ebum must have declared his specialness to a snitch.
    That late swing would only have been forced if he had used this, and the snitch must have been alerted to it to switch their kill target to the previous vote leader 15 minutes before vote close.

    Of the players that voted late to save ebum, there are kime, cesareB and Flarne.
    Flarne's vote smells suspect due to virtually declaring that ebum is a special, as that's the only argument a villager can make.
    However, of the three, cesareB is the only one that has any chance of having voted for a mafia, even before the ebum call (Flarne voting ebum, kime not having placed a vote yet).

    It also correlates with TA's voting patterns.
    I have known TA to vote purely for mafia when playing mafia, and cesareB/Megafrost lines up with cesareB's one Favor Megafrost/ebum-> Ketbra vote record.
    This may not be the case here, but if he were trying for the vig power, this is something I would definitely see TA doing.

    So basically I'm saying that cesareB, Megafrost and TA are all snitches.

    I also stuffed up and guarded last night, expecting to be horribly murdered. But then those death results happened. So there's not much point staying on Drez -_-

  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    a) We should probably let the conversion thing alone, as there's not a ton we can do about them if they even exist. My fault for thinking "out loud," as it were.
    b) I'm pretty sure all it would really have taken for the mafia to lock in on ebum was what he posted in thread, but some PMs went out, that's for sure.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Well, even if ebum didn't pm those players to switch specifically, them voting makes it plain that they were online at the time, and more likely to be able to change the mafia target.

  • PredaPreda Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    First, vote count.

    Day 1
    7 Gizzy- Megafrost (5) , Phyphor (29), Enlightenedbum (32), Ketbra (33), Flarne (34), lonelyahava (35), Preda (36)
    3 Enlightenedbum- Preda (14), Baidol(15), Slym (27), kime (30)
    2 Megafrost- TA (7), CesareB (16)
    2 MrT- Cythraul (2), Drez (9)
    1 lonelyahava- Lucedes (1)
    1 Phyphor- MrT (3)
    1 Preda- Hedgethorn (6) Hedgethorn(10) (corrected redacted vote)
    1 Assuran- Sepah (8)
    1 Hedgethorn- Auralynx (11)
    1 Kime- Capfalcon (12), Ketbra (26)
    1 drez- discrider (13)
    1 Baidol- Assuran (17), Kime (23)
    1 Ketbra- Gizzy(18)
    1 Auralynx- ebum (19), Bedlam (25)
    1 CesareB- Shalmelo (20)
    1 Flarne- jpants (21)
    1 Langley- INATP (22)
    1 IATP- Langley (24)
    0 Lucedes- lonelyahava(4)
    0 Slym- Kime (28)
    0 Bedlam- Flarne (31)

    Everyone voted

    Day 2
    6 Ketbra- shalmelo (10), Enlightenedbum (15), Phyphor (19), CesareB (24), Flarne (25), kime (26)
    4 Enlightenedbum- Preda (2), Bedlam (14), Slym (20), Flarne (21), Ketbra (23)
    2 Drez- discrider (1), Cythraul (16)
    2 CesareB- Drez (11), TA (17)
    2 kime- Lucedes (4), Capfalcon (22)
    1 shalmelo- kime (3), Langley (21)
    1 Hedgethorn- Megafrost (6)
    1 Flarne- jpants (7)
    1 Assuran- Sepah (8)
    1 Preda- Hedgethorn (12)
    1 Sepah- Assuran (13)
    1 TA- Auralynx (18)
    0 Auralynx- lonelyahava (5)
    0 Megafrost- CesareB (9)

    Not voted: INATP.

    Preda on
  • PredaPreda Registered User regular
    Second, possible useful information. Day 1 I switched from Ebum to Gizzy because Ebum claimed in PM that if I would do that he would have me gain a favour point. Tonight I wasn't on at vote close (I arrived 10 minutes late, the allarm clock failed me...), but I recieved the same offer again.
    Since he was a special that could be more than a wild claim.
    I don't know how he would comply that thou...

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    I'm good with voting for !CesareB again. I may be misinterpreting his posts and messages, but I think it's likely he is a snitch.

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Okay, let's try CesareB.

  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    ]shalmelo is frequently mafia. Also I'm not sure a day one swing is worth voting the other guy out. They're more likely just both village. There's a chance Either are mafia but I don't think it's any higher than anyone else.


    I told you guys!

  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    If they were networked, why would ketbra and ebum vote for each other? I don't think they were

  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    I have known TA to vote purely for mafia when playing mafia
    discrider

    Oh yeah what are you gonna do about THAT huh B)

  • MegafrostMegafrost Leader of the Decepticons Registered User regular
    TA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZAY-78zhmw

    Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

  • MegafrostMegafrost Leader of the Decepticons Registered User regular
    No actually I'm gonna pile on CesareB like the rest.

  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    I'm 2/3rds of the way to knowing Preda's alignment, so I'll just stay the course for now.

    All of kime's vote switching is raising my suspicions, though. Five votes in two days is curious, to say the least.

  • LucedesLucedes Registered User regular
    man, capfalcon does have it covered!
    in that case, i got nothing.

    uh... TA.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Preda wrote: »
    Second, possible useful information. Day 1 I switched from Ebum to Gizzy because Ebum claimed in PM that if I would do that he would have me gain a favour point. Tonight I wasn't on at vote close (I arrived 10 minutes late, the allarm clock failed me...), but I recieved the same offer again.
    Since he was a special that could be more than a wild claim.
    I don't know how he would comply that thou...

    It would make flavourful sense that the vanillager big boss could hand out Favor, but probably not to many people simultaneously.

  • CapfalconCapfalcon Tunnel Snakes Rule Capital WastelandRegistered User regular
    Kime for president!

    Or, wait. The other thing. Cement shoes. That sounds right.

  • FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    The reasoning for Cesare seems a bit thin. But I guess we don't have much else right now.

    I've wanted to poke Bedlam from day1 but I keep having to break your dumb ties.

  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Your ties are dumb!

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  • FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    Ties are dumb in general. Casual clothing forever.

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