There's a big difference between "the city" in the sense of a town of 50,000+ people and "the city" in terms of NYC.
I loved living in Chicago and San Fran but the few times I visited NYC I got the sense that it was not for me.
I think I'd quite like Boston or NYC, though the weather would irritate me. Boulder's delightful, though.
Boulder is awesome. My bro lives there doing very Boulder things (teaches piano lessons, plays jazz gigs at local venues, runs a summer music, dance & yoga camp for 6-12 year olds, etc.) I always have a blast when I come visit.
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I have to admit I haven't gotten out of this place nearly enough in the past month. Largely because, living with my best friends, most nights I am hanging out with them here or having other people over to spend time with us here.
On the upside, this apartment is a fantastic place to be trapped for long amounts of time.
I definitely feel I would not like to live anywhere smaller than San Francisco in the near future.
Chicago feels perfect for me right now. If I were somewhere a bit more suburban I would start to feel suffocated pretty quickly.
I may be relatively strange, though, in that I feel much more comfortable being surrounded by people, even strangers.
My parents, who still live in the town I grew up in that has exactly 0 streetlights, always talked about how city living is awful because you have no privacy because it's so crowded.
I've actually found the exact opposite to be true. There are so many people in the city they just don't give a fuck about you whereas, in small towns, your business becomes everybody else's pretty quickly.
It depends what kind of privacy they want.
It's probably talking about "sitting outside and relaxing and having a drink" when most old people talk about it. If you do something like that in NYC, you'll probably be arrested, or you'll definitely have people going "what the fuck?"
1) Many buildings have rooftops. They are perfect for this.
2) many outdoor / sidewalk cafes on slower streets give you nice scenery, some relative calm, and a place to sip on a tasty beverage.
I am not knocking the porch - I enjoy my time on the porch with my dad and some whiskey quite a lot - but there are most definitely replacements for it here. Not the same, but good in their own way.
I think the disconnect here is what people would consider "nice scenery"
Looking at an asphalt and concrete path for, at least me, would be annoying. Looking at my fire pit and maybe have a neighbor hang out and talk to for a bit is a bit better. I think that's what most country bumpkins mean when they say "privacy". But I dunno, both have their ups and downs with regards to privacy depending on what they really mean.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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I definitely feel I would not like to live anywhere smaller than San Francisco in the near future.
Chicago feels perfect for me right now. If I were somewhere a bit more suburban I would start to feel suffocated pretty quickly.
I may be relatively strange, though, in that I feel much more comfortable being surrounded by people, even strangers.
My parents, who still live in the town I grew up in that has exactly 0 streetlights, always talked about how city living is awful because you have no privacy because it's so crowded.
I've actually found the exact opposite to be true. There are so many people in the city they just don't give a fuck about you whereas, in small towns, your business becomes everybody else's pretty quickly.
It depends what kind of privacy they want.
It's probably talking about "sitting outside and relaxing and having a drink" when most old people talk about it. If you do something like that in NYC, you'll probably be arrested, or you'll definitely have people going "what the fuck?"
They are plenty of places to sit outside and have a drink. If you're doing it illegally, they'll give you a ticket but not arrest you (usually; it depends on neighborhood, your skin color, and how far away from the quota they are for the month).
Anyway. My parents never specified what kind of privacy they meant but they don't drink. I think it's just the general idea that, because you live in a small town in the middle of the woods, that you enjoy a certain degree of privacy. To some extent, sure, but this is also largely illusory since the few people around tend to be acutely aware of your presence.
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I definitely feel I would not like to live anywhere smaller than San Francisco in the near future.
Chicago feels perfect for me right now. If I were somewhere a bit more suburban I would start to feel suffocated pretty quickly.
I may be relatively strange, though, in that I feel much more comfortable being surrounded by people, even strangers.
My parents, who still live in the town I grew up in that has exactly 0 streetlights, always talked about how city living is awful because you have no privacy because it's so crowded.
I've actually found the exact opposite to be true. There are so many people in the city they just don't give a fuck about you whereas, in small towns, your business becomes everybody else's pretty quickly.
It depends what kind of privacy they want.
It's probably talking about "sitting outside and relaxing and having a drink" when most old people talk about it. If you do something like that in NYC, you'll probably be arrested, or you'll definitely have people going "what the fuck?"
1) Many buildings have rooftops. They are perfect for this.
2) many outdoor / sidewalk cafes on slower streets give you nice scenery, some relative calm, and a place to sip on a tasty beverage.
I am not knocking the porch - I enjoy my time on the porch with my dad and some whiskey quite a lot - but there are most definitely replacements for it here. Not the same, but good in their own way.
I think the disconnect here is what people would consider "nice scenery"
Looking at an asphalt and concrete path for, at least me, would be annoying. Looking at my fire pit and maybe have a neighbor hang out and talk to for a bit is a bit better. I think that's what most country bumpkins mean when they say "privacy". But I dunno, both have their ups and downs with regards to privacy depending on what they really mean.
I think you underestimate how beautiful the scenery of a city can be.
edit: and the hike we took to get there was pretty damn interesting and naturey.
Sorry, hard to tell, I don't know trail like the back of my hand. Just from a cursory glance it looked like you skedooted to suburbia and got on a small trail that overlooked the farmland portion of it. But yeah there are some nice areas like that near you I'm sure. I'm litereally surrounded by it.
For you? Going out to eat and having a thousand choices is amazing.
For me? Going out to nature-stuff and having a thousand choices is amazing.
Different strokes.
This is why me, personally, strike out against those people that go "everyone should live in a city, you're all dumb if you don't and making the earth suck rabblerabblerable" (we all know who I'm talking about there I hope).
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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it's simple math bowen
we have more culture
you have more rocks and sticks
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I definitely feel I would not like to live anywhere smaller than San Francisco in the near future.
Chicago feels perfect for me right now. If I were somewhere a bit more suburban I would start to feel suffocated pretty quickly.
I may be relatively strange, though, in that I feel much more comfortable being surrounded by people, even strangers.
My parents, who still live in the town I grew up in that has exactly 0 streetlights, always talked about how city living is awful because you have no privacy because it's so crowded.
I've actually found the exact opposite to be true. There are so many people in the city they just don't give a fuck about you whereas, in small towns, your business becomes everybody else's pretty quickly.
It depends what kind of privacy they want.
It's probably talking about "sitting outside and relaxing and having a drink" when most old people talk about it. If you do something like that in NYC, you'll probably be arrested, or you'll definitely have people going "what the fuck?"
1) Many buildings have rooftops. They are perfect for this.
2) many outdoor / sidewalk cafes on slower streets give you nice scenery, some relative calm, and a place to sip on a tasty beverage.
I am not knocking the porch - I enjoy my time on the porch with my dad and some whiskey quite a lot - but there are most definitely replacements for it here. Not the same, but good in their own way.
I think the disconnect here is what people would consider "nice scenery"
Looking at an asphalt and concrete path for, at least me, would be annoying. Looking at my fire pit and maybe have a neighbor hang out and talk to for a bit is a bit better. I think that's what most country bumpkins mean when they say "privacy". But I dunno, both have their ups and downs with regards to privacy depending on what they really mean.
I think you underestimate how beautiful the scenery of a city can be.
I've been to the city before. It smells, the sounds annoy me, and I'd rather not live there and probably wouldn't enjoy it.
That isn't to say I didn't enjoy my time there. It was different, enjoyable, I had fun doing what I wanted to do, but when that thing was done I didn't want to stay there.
The options were great though, we don't have many. Like if my girlfriend wanted to get her animes in, we'd be shit out of luck, there's no animes here.
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This is why me, personally, strike out against those people that go "everyone should live in a city, you're all dumb if you don't and making the earth suck rabblerabblerable" (we all know who I'm talking about there I hope).
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anyway the point is not so much CITY CULTURALLY SUPERIOR ÜRBANMENSCHEN but rather that these have costs and cities are less costly than close-to-rural suburbia
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one thing i do like about going home, if there is even one thing, is that the silence, compared to the city anyway, is audible
like, i have so much ambient noise that i just tune out because you have to, but once you're out of it
you're like whoa
i'm listening to silence
and then you accidentally spill the bong and everyone yells at you and i feel like i am back home in the city again
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anyway the point is not so much CITY CULTURALLY SUPERIOR ÜRBANMENSCHEN but rather that these have costs and cities are less costly than close-to-rural suburbia
If it were up to me, I'd totally go bearded mountain man.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
part of me finds it incredibly frustrating to live somewhere like nyc with a mere-mortal budget
I think the key to NYC is being part of an incredibly wealthy family (so you have a fallback option), or, at least be upper middle class so you won't be too fucked if you get let go and need to crash in your parent's basement.
If you're a poor it's pretty much the worst.
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Boulder is awesome. My bro lives there doing very Boulder things (teaches piano lessons, plays jazz gigs at local venues, runs a summer music, dance & yoga camp for 6-12 year olds, etc.) I always have a blast when I come visit.
On the upside, this apartment is a fantastic place to be trapped for long amounts of time.
I think the disconnect here is what people would consider "nice scenery"
Looking at an asphalt and concrete path for, at least me, would be annoying. Looking at my fire pit and maybe have a neighbor hang out and talk to for a bit is a bit better. I think that's what most country bumpkins mean when they say "privacy". But I dunno, both have their ups and downs with regards to privacy depending on what they really mean.
They are plenty of places to sit outside and have a drink. If you're doing it illegally, they'll give you a ticket but not arrest you (usually; it depends on neighborhood, your skin color, and how far away from the quota they are for the month).
Anyway. My parents never specified what kind of privacy they meant but they don't drink. I think it's just the general idea that, because you live in a small town in the middle of the woods, that you enjoy a certain degree of privacy. To some extent, sure, but this is also largely illusory since the few people around tend to be acutely aware of your presence.
gotta nuke somethin'
I think you underestimate how beautiful the scenery of a city can be.
Gotta nuke somethin'
The architecture is right there! and it would make my job a lot easier!
Sorry, hard to tell, I don't know trail like the back of my hand. Just from a cursory glance it looked like you skedooted to suburbia and got on a small trail that overlooked the farmland portion of it. But yeah there are some nice areas like that near you I'm sure. I'm litereally surrounded by it.
For you? Going out to eat and having a thousand choices is amazing.
For me? Going out to nature-stuff and having a thousand choices is amazing.
Different strokes.
This is why me, personally, strike out against those people that go "everyone should live in a city, you're all dumb if you don't and making the earth suck rabblerabblerable" (we all know who I'm talking about there I hope).
we have more culture
you have more rocks and sticks
I've been to the city before. It smells, the sounds annoy me, and I'd rather not live there and probably wouldn't enjoy it.
That isn't to say I didn't enjoy my time there. It was different, enjoyable, I had fun doing what I wanted to do, but when that thing was done I didn't want to stay there.
The options were great though, we don't have many. Like if my girlfriend wanted to get her animes in, we'd be shit out of luck, there's no animes here.
Hold on now, I was totally siding with you city folk until this post
Never underestimate the value of rocks and sticks
Nor the cultural experiences one can have in a place flush with said rocks and sticks
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oh cool a rock
oh cool another rock
oh cool this rock has dirt on it
AND THIS ONE HAS A POISONOUS SLUG UNDERNEATH IT
GUYS LET'S POKE IT WITH A STICK
That's how much better the city is.
i'm enjoying how smug and "i don't give a shit about this" Salmond is being on Question Time
"talking about what policy we'd have is a bit boring"
no shit, ukip
what's so morning about it
like, i have so much ambient noise that i just tune out because you have to, but once you're out of it
you're like whoa
i'm listening to silence
and then you accidentally spill the bong and everyone yells at you and i feel like i am back home in the city again
pretending?
If it were up to me, I'd totally go bearded mountain man.
It's okay ronya, we'll get all those country-folk stuffed into arcologies one way or another
I sure am glad that there's no one around to see me jerk it on this tree
Sup?
I mean I have to assume I've passed a few recently, but
The last time I know I for sure saw one was Thanksgiving
There must be, like, dozens on my walk-commute
But they are city trees
Doing their city tree thing
I don't like to stare
i did it for like the first two years and now i am better off but i also get a large amount of perks from my job
which is great! because it makes this thing i do for a large chunk of time each week actually enjoyable
CONFROM
shit i mean conform
CONFORM
I think the key to NYC is being part of an incredibly wealthy family (so you have a fallback option), or, at least be upper middle class so you won't be too fucked if you get let go and need to crash in your parent's basement.
If you're a poor it's pretty much the worst.
it is just generally sad vari how can u b so insensitiv
*focuses binoculars*
if you can manage that you'll be ok