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So, lets talk about the $2500 cost of wifi at PAX South for exhibitors
I'm an indy, tiny company, got into PAX South last minute and we're so excited and grateful to show up. Booth cost was very reasonable, we show up and ask for wi-fi.... and its $2500 for the cheapest option. If you need a landline, its $8000. These are the cheap options, 5 mbps wifi and 6 mbps landline.
I was floored. Of course I refused. Thats potentially more than I'm going to make at the entire show. We made things work with bad cell reception and mobile hot-spots that kept getting interference and dropping out, but we got LUCKY. 2/3 of our cellphones had no reception, and the third worked. If it hadn't, we wouldn't have been able to take credit cards. That's literally all were doing with the wifi anyway, it's just to take credit cards on the ipad.
At the end of the first night, we had our exhibitor pow-wow / luncheon, where we all get together and talk about our projects, meet new people, and do general networking. It was a great idea, but I can tell you that in my tables the cost of internet was all anyone was talking about.
(PAX South itself was a great show. I assume these prices were set by Freeman, the company setting up the show and not PAX, although I really have no idea. If it was Freeman, I'd appreciate you look into replacing them.)
I was floored. Of course I refused. Thats potentially more than I'm going to make at the entire show. We made things work with bad cell reception and mobile hot-spots that kept getting interference and dropping out, but we got LUCKY. 2/3 of our cellphones had no reception, and the third worked. If it hadn't, we wouldn't have been able to take credit cards. That's literally all were doing with the wifi anyway, it's just to take credit cards on the ipad.
At the end of the first night, we had our exhibitor pow-wow / luncheon, where we all get together and talk about our projects, meet new people, and do general networking. It was a great idea, but I can tell you that in my tables the cost of internet was all anyone was talking about.
(PAX South itself was a great show. I assume these prices were set by Freeman, the company setting up the show and not PAX, although I really have no idea. If it was Freeman, I'd appreciate you look into replacing them.)
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But my real issue is with the cell reception, or lack thereof, inside the convention center where PAX South was helf this year. I literally walked around all day with full bars and 4GLTE, but I couldn't use any data inside. The moment I walked outside I was hit with a wall of texts/missed calls.
T-mobile and Sprint were garbage inside the convention center. I think Verizon was okay, but I honestly started to think that PAX event coordinators had purposefully chosen a "dead zone" venue.
This was really the only real issue I had with the new location for PAX.
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Talked to a vendor there about the terrible cell reception, his reasoning was since everyone now has 4G, those frequencies become oversaturated and impossible to have a reliable connection on. So he ends up using 'last-gen' technology for their internet needs. At the show he used an older 3G phone to make transactions, and in the past when 3G was current-gen he used an EDGE phone.
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Limiting by MAC on a wired connection is a bit silly, but maybe to identify. Was there anything preventing your once device being a wired router?
We are not talking BYOC, we are talking VENDORS on the floor. Not sure about pax, but since BYOC does not need secured connections, there is no need for the setup and testing of Secured Tunnels. Unless your customers don't mind everyone in the convention center having access to their credit card numbers.
Detecting a spoofed address is easy, the mac is not just a number it means some thing which includes manufacture of network adapter and model number, all you have to do is query the network adapter on the other end and bam, you can see spoof, finding out what is behind the spoof is not, its doable but not easy, any idiot can tell a spoof from a real mac, ok not any idiot, anyone who has taken a single security class. You don't thinks someone who sets up secure networks can do this in there sleep ? As far as SSL goes, if your a credit card company and still using SSL your probably 6 months away from going out of business, most have gone to TLS which will not work over ICS. Come to think of it, SSL Certs wont work over ICS without generating and error either, and IPSEC drops the second it detects ICS, so I am not sure what your point is?
Best I can recommend is to be prepared to have no internet connection unless you bring it yourself, and even then it's likely that every cell tower near the convention will be flooded with traffic.
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Not that it matters all that much, but a spoofed MAC address doesn't leak info about its original address. If I am sending one out, you don't have any way to tell it's not legitimate unless there are multiples. As far as ICS goes, my knowledge of it is limited, but looking for info it appears to be nothing more than a software NAT. That means it should support anything that goes over at least TCP just fine.
Either solution, using ICS or using a router with a white listed MAC should work. However, it's probably against the terms you sign to get it.
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All adapters can be queried, even spoofed ones. Since it is a spoof it does not return an answer or returns an incorrect one, the second it does not return and answer it is shut off. These are all things people have been trying since 2006. One of the reasons they cost so much is that all these and more are tested before the network releases from air gap.
Geth, close this thread.