It's really named after a small child with leukemia he met at a pediatric burn ward he volunteers at biweekly, who is also named Hamlin. The boys favorite color was indigo blue and his dying wish was that he have something named after him.
Honestly if you're going to do something like use a non-standard color that requires you to get dyes custom ordered and all that shit giving it a simple name is probably world's better than PANTONE 17-4015 TPX blue.
With the revelation, a lot of the smarm that Hamlin seemed to have is, upon reevaluation, seemingly more like genuine concern and niceness once you remove the JimmyFilter.
Which is a pretty amazing development, from a writing standpoint, imho.
He's pompous, sure, but it doesn't mean he's an asshole.
And won't you guys feel bad when you find out it's actually named after the other, unseen Hamlin?
Maybe, but on the other hand, "our" Hamlin used it as an argument for trademark infringement, in front of a judge. He's complicit now, whatever his involvement at the outset.
Don't get me wrong, I'm as awed as anyone at what the writers have pulled off, revealing Chuck rather than Howard as the moustache-twirling villain in this situation. But yeah, naming colors after oneself is some straight villainy.
"Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are." - Bertolt Brecht
He's pompous, sure, but it doesn't mean he's an asshole.
And won't you guys feel bad when you find out it's actually named after the other, unseen Hamlin?
Maybe, but on the other hand, "our" Hamlin used it as an argument for trademark infringement, in front of a judge. He's complicit now, whatever his involvement at the outset.
Don't get me wrong, I'm as awed as anyone at what the writers have pulled off, revealing Chuck rather than Howard as the moustache-twirling villain in this situation. But yeah, naming colors after oneself is some straight villainy.
Yea, Jimmy was totally an asshole in that scene. He was very clearly trying to create confusion between his legal practice and HHM. The logos had to be read to be distinguished because Jimmy copied the geometry and colors which was Hamlin's argument. Jimmy is the one who made a big deal of the color thing.
Now at the time and from his perspective he had a valid reason to be an asshole to Hamlin. Now....well Hamlin actually kind of comes off as nice in the billboard scene with Kim. He has to respond or he risks the firm (along with Kim's job) but he still does it in a way designed to only get Jimmy to stop doing it. He never discusses damages or anything for it.
Wasn't all of Jimmy's asshole behavior preceded by Hamlin telling Jimmy that he wasn't allowed to use his own name in starting a legal practice? Are we assuming that was because of REDACTED, too? Because otherwise, that is a total dick move and justifies Jimmy being an asshole to Hamlin.
Regardless, my impression thus far is that Hamlin is still a dick (see: his treatment of Kim), just not as big a dick as we previously thought.
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Wasn't all of Jimmy's asshole behavior preceded by Hamlin telling Jimmy that he wasn't allowed to use his own name in starting a legal practice? Are we assuming that was because of REDACTED, too? Because otherwise, that is a total dick move and justifies Jimmy being an asshole to Hamlin.
Regardless, my impression thus far is that Hamlin is still a dick (see: his treatment of Kim), just not as big a dick as we previously thought.
I think you're misremembering.
Hamlin made a comment about how McGill's name in conjunction with using essentially the same logo, using Hamlindigo blue, and using Hamlin's suit and haircut could confuse clients. I think that's reasonable, Jimmy's intent to fuck with HHM was pretty clear!
Jimmy then ran away with that comment, talking about how Hamlin was trying to prevent him from using his own name. Hamlin rolled his eyes and started to reply, and got interrupted by Jimmy. Finally, the judge said that Jimmy using his name wasn't the issue at hand. The issue was the billboard as a whole, not the name in particular.
Now, there is another character who did explicitly tell Jimmy he shouldn't use the McGill name in his legal practice. Three guesses on who that was, and the first two don't count.
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Wasn't all of Jimmy's asshole behavior preceded by Hamlin telling Jimmy that he wasn't allowed to use his own name in starting a legal practice? Are we assuming that was because of REDACTED, too? Because otherwise, that is a total dick move and justifies Jimmy being an asshole to Hamlin.
Regardless, my impression thus far is that Hamlin is still a dick (see: his treatment of Kim), just not as big a dick as we previously thought.
I think you're misremembering.
Hamlin made a comment about how McGill's name in conjunction with using essentially the same logo, using Hamlindigo blue, and using Hamlin's suit and haircut could confuse clients. I think that's reasonable, Jimmy's intent to fuck with HHM was pretty clear!
Jimmy then ran away with that comment, talking about how Hamlin was trying to prevent him from using his own name. Hamlin rolled his eyes and started to reply, and got interrupted by Jimmy. Finally, the judge said that Jimmy using his name wasn't the issue at hand. The issue was the billboard as a whole, not the name in particular.
Now, there is another character who did explicitly tell Jimmy he shouldn't use the McGill name in his legal practice. Three guesses on who that was, and the first two don't count.
That was such a great episode. My girlfriend's just finishing up Breaking Bad and then we're gonna watch this, and I am gonna dig the rewatch after that
I kinda want to rewatch the series now and see how it plays with the new information.
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Chuck thinks Jimmy is a mediocre lawyer and doesn't want him to be part of his big-shot law firm. He's probably right about that; Jimmy was only just barely good enough to pass the bar. The multi-million dollar class action lawsuit fell into his hands with a lot of Chuck's help, so he probably really isn't good enough to be in HHM.
That said, Chuck is obviously a conniving asshole for working against Jimmy in the shadows rather than being honest about his opinion. Also there was no reason for him to shit on Jimmy's ability to be a decent lawyer doing relatively low-impact work like elder law. Basically he mistook mediocrity for incompetence because of his elitist attitude and betrayed his own brother in the process.
Chuck thinks Jimmy is a mediocre lawyer and doesn't want him to be part of his big-shot law firm. He's probably right about that; Jimmy was only just barely good enough to pass the bar. The multi-million dollar class action lawsuit fell into his hands with a lot of Chuck's help, so he probably really isn't good enough to be in HHM.
That said, Chuck is obviously a conniving asshole for working against Jimmy in the shadows rather than being honest about his opinion. Also there was no reason for him to shit on Jimmy's ability to be a decent lawyer doing relatively low-impact work like elder law. Basically he mistook mediocrity for incompetence because of his elitist attitude and betrayed his own brother in the process.
It seems to me that its less Chuck not wanting Jimmy working at the lawfirm of HHM and more that Chuck doesn't like Jimmy practicing law period.
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Fuck Chuck Subreddit, yeah I know reddit :bigfrown: but its amusing how the hate is spreading
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The I Fucked Chuck thing is funny, but I am nixing any discussion of Skylar right out of the gate.
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Yeah I would have agreed with his concerns about Jimmy back when he first got his law degree
but he's been doing legitimate, honest legal work. He hasn't been an ambulance chaser. At worst, he's a little slimy in his advertising methods, so what (lets forget the business with the skateboarders since Chuck doesn't know about it)? The guy doesn't have a lot of money and it's not like he's 18 years old with all the time in the world to make a name for himself. He crawled in a dumpster to get shredded paper, he routinely turns down the money for his own principles. If he was what Chuck thought he was, he would take the easy money
What a shithead, and by taking this away from him, he's leaving the best option for Jimmy to become exactly what he said he would.
It's like claiming that public schools don't work and pointing to a public school that you burned down as an example
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That's not what I expected at all. I liked it, but dang what a strange note to end on.
Also weird - Michael Mando in the credits, no Nacho.
Mando's agent got him a killer deal. Appear in like four episodes, a couple of which are just basically one scene and get a main cast credit in one of the most anticipated new series of the year.
I was kind of underwhelmed by that finale.
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That episode was a bit of a snoozer. I was expecting some big hook at the end that just didn't materialize.
I can see why he wouldn't want to work in the perpetual shadow of his brother and with a bunch of people who regard him as the mail man, but I don't see how the Chicago visit and discussion with Mike are supposed to be inciting incidents there. What a super underwhelming season finale; I was sure it would end with Jimmy going head to head with Chuck in some legal matter or Chuck just finding himself unable to function without Jimmy or really anything interesting happening at all.
Still looking forward to season 2 though, I have faith in the talent here to cough up the goods eventually.
Things were lookin' up for Jimmy. His decision at the end seemed a bit nonsensical.
I think the whole reason he got his act together was because of Chuck. The successful big brother he owes a debt to, the reason he's not in prison or a registered sex offender. That's what the Bingo breakdown was about, how he was tied down to ABQ because of the Chicago Sunroof incident, even though he obviously wasn't convicted.
Now that debt is gone, and it's taking away his moral compass. He doesn't need to prove anything to Chuck (who doesn't give a shit either way). The episode showed him return to being Slippin' Jimmy, and now he's looking back with disbelief. He's a con man, how could he have given up all that cash? The conversation with Mike was meant to show how he's gone back to his past for good, and I think that's when he fully realized that change, the reversed progress. We had nine episodes of Jimmy McGill, who was a bit shady but overall a decent guy. And now we have one episode of Saul Goodman, who only really cares about number one.
I think the finale was a little boring, but the events were important.
Yeah, at the new law firm, he'll probably make more than he would otherwise, if he works hard and well he'll be made partner... but always reliant on other people, even as partner.
I think I get the point of all, but the way it was organized seemed to work against the main theme.
I think his decision at the end was mostly just a fuck you to Chuck. He now knows he could make it on his own, he had a good life going, but it's the kind of life Chuck would want,and screw that guy.
But I think the Chicago scenes failed to really set the proper mood. It felt like it was doing a "you can't go home again" thing with Marco dying, and it felt like he was realizing that was all past. Then, suddenly, he's pissed off that he didn't take his cut off the $1.6 million.
Overall, it seemed like a reasonable conclusion to the season, and the first half of the episode was great, but then it just sort of muddled its way through the home stretch and ended.
Great series, can't wait till next season, but that finale could've been so much more.
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Guys I don't know what ya'll are talking about the finale had a huge payoff.
We finally found out what a Chicago Sunroof was! Which totally wasn't a thing prior to this show. I looked it up.
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He's pompous, sure, but it doesn't mean he's an asshole.
And won't you guys feel bad when you find out it's actually named after the other, unseen Hamlin?
Which is a pretty amazing development, from a writing standpoint, imho.
Maybe, but on the other hand, "our" Hamlin used it as an argument for trademark infringement, in front of a judge. He's complicit now, whatever his involvement at the outset.
Don't get me wrong, I'm as awed as anyone at what the writers have pulled off, revealing Chuck rather than Howard as the moustache-twirling villain in this situation. But yeah, naming colors after oneself is some straight villainy.
Yea, Jimmy was totally an asshole in that scene. He was very clearly trying to create confusion between his legal practice and HHM. The logos had to be read to be distinguished because Jimmy copied the geometry and colors which was Hamlin's argument. Jimmy is the one who made a big deal of the color thing.
Now at the time and from his perspective he had a valid reason to be an asshole to Hamlin. Now....well Hamlin actually kind of comes off as nice in the billboard scene with Kim. He has to respond or he risks the firm (along with Kim's job) but he still does it in a way designed to only get Jimmy to stop doing it. He never discusses damages or anything for it.
Regardless, my impression thus far is that Hamlin is still a dick (see: his treatment of Kim), just not as big a dick as we previously thought.
I think you're misremembering.
Jimmy then ran away with that comment, talking about how Hamlin was trying to prevent him from using his own name. Hamlin rolled his eyes and started to reply, and got interrupted by Jimmy. Finally, the judge said that Jimmy using his name wasn't the issue at hand. The issue was the billboard as a whole, not the name in particular.
Now, there is another character who did explicitly tell Jimmy he shouldn't use the McGill name in his legal practice. Three guesses on who that was, and the first two don't count.
my guesses:
Hamlin, Hamlin, Mcgill.
I kinda want to rewatch the series now and see how it plays with the new information.
I watched Saul's first BB episode this week. He is so very much sleazier than Jimmy.
That said, Chuck is obviously a conniving asshole for working against Jimmy in the shadows rather than being honest about his opinion. Also there was no reason for him to shit on Jimmy's ability to be a decent lawyer doing relatively low-impact work like elder law. Basically he mistook mediocrity for incompetence because of his elitist attitude and betrayed his own brother in the process.
Also, I did some internet searches pertaining to the show and stumbled upon
oh christ are we doing this again
Better Call Saul.
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So how many episodes do we have left? Is BCS a 10 episode or 13 episode series?
First season is 10, the second is 13.
Yeah I would have agreed with his concerns about Jimmy back when he first got his law degree
but he's been doing legitimate, honest legal work. He hasn't been an ambulance chaser. At worst, he's a little slimy in his advertising methods, so what (lets forget the business with the skateboarders since Chuck doesn't know about it)? The guy doesn't have a lot of money and it's not like he's 18 years old with all the time in the world to make a name for himself. He crawled in a dumpster to get shredded paper, he routinely turns down the money for his own principles. If he was what Chuck thought he was, he would take the easy money
What a shithead, and by taking this away from him, he's leaving the best option for Jimmy to become exactly what he said he would.
It's like claiming that public schools don't work and pointing to a public school that you burned down as an example
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Also weird - Michael Mando in the credits, no Nacho.
Mando's agent got him a killer deal. Appear in like four episodes, a couple of which are just basically one scene and get a main cast credit in one of the most anticipated new series of the year.
I was kind of underwhelmed by that finale.
Things were lookin' up for Jimmy. His decision at the end seemed a bit nonsensical.
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Still looking forward to season 2 though, I have faith in the talent here to cough up the goods eventually.
Now that debt is gone, and it's taking away his moral compass. He doesn't need to prove anything to Chuck (who doesn't give a shit either way). The episode showed him return to being Slippin' Jimmy, and now he's looking back with disbelief. He's a con man, how could he have given up all that cash? The conversation with Mike was meant to show how he's gone back to his past for good, and I think that's when he fully realized that change, the reversed progress. We had nine episodes of Jimmy McGill, who was a bit shady but overall a decent guy. And now we have one episode of Saul Goodman, who only really cares about number one.
I think the finale was a little boring, but the events were important.
Yeah, at the new law firm, he'll probably make more than he would otherwise, if he works hard and well he'll be made partner... but always reliant on other people, even as partner.
But I think the Chicago scenes failed to really set the proper mood. It felt like it was doing a "you can't go home again" thing with Marco dying, and it felt like he was realizing that was all past. Then, suddenly, he's pissed off that he didn't take his cut off the $1.6 million.
Overall, it seemed like a reasonable conclusion to the season, and the first half of the episode was great, but then it just sort of muddled its way through the home stretch and ended.
Great series, can't wait till next season, but that finale could've been so much more.
anyway not a great finalé but still very much looking forward to the next season