Eh, that's probably too heavy for the chat at the moment. Sorry guys.
@athenor from a certain perspective it comes down to firm ideation - once you have a solid conceptualized plan and shit, that's when you need to really start taking it seriously as a manifestation of mental issues rather than idle daydreaming
In general suicidal thoughts should be discussed at least indirectly before it gets to that point, or at least understood as a thing that happens
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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ChelleYeahMrs. LudiousLiving it up in Cinderella's CastleRegistered Userregular
When do thoughts about suicide cross the line from being idle thoughts to bad?
I need to make it clear that I have 0 desire to kill myself, and even less intention to.
But the last few weekends (edit: For like 2-3 minutes at a time, sparsely), I've been finding myself sitting here (or laying down), and just thinking through impacts, fallouts, so on.. like who will pay my debts, what will happen at work, how will my family take it...
It's not the same as before I went on my meds, where I was obsessive over it and scared of my own death, or scared that I won't leave a legacy or find love or anything. But it's more... what do I do with myself, and as an extension what impacts will I have? I'm finding myself slipping into these thoughts pretty easily in the last month or so, and I'm going to bring them up with my counselor next session..
But I just wonder.. when should I start worrying? I actually have this desire to hang out with my friends, but I have no desire to decide what to do,or organize shit for them, or anything like that. So I think this is just idle boredom thinking, but I don't like that it is creeping up more.
i suffered through major depression for a very long time (years) and had suicidal thoughts countless times but never acted on them. i have managed to claw my way out of that deep dark pit through sheer force of will and eventually some medicine that helped a bit too. now i'm the happiest i've ever been in my life and other than the group of people i work with virtually nothing has changed in my life over these years and my depression predated my employment history so i can't chalk it up to my life somehow getting better overnight and snapping out of it. it was a long arduous process and i had to fight for my life. fight myself, my demons etc, to keep getting out of bed, keep hoping tomorrow would be better, and every day little by little it got better.
but here is my personal thought on the matter. as soon as you have a suicidal thought about it you should be concerned. they simply dont come to me anymore unless i'm having a really hard time. those are the times i need to talk to someone. even if it's a passing thought, nothing i would act on, even if i think i'll feel better tomorrow, i should still talk to someone - talking to lud works for me but a counselor is probably better for most people. he is very good at helping me re-frame situations and keep hope.
the first thought is a sign you're dipping under the waterline. you don't want to wait until you're circling the drain to get help. you wouldnt wait to call a life guard to help someone until they stopped coming back up to gasp for air would you?
its great that you still have the desire to hang out with friends and motivation to do things but here's the thing - what if tomorrow you don't? this is something you have to fight every day. even on good days you have to fight it. because on a good day something shitty might happen that puts you in a slightly worse mood and you're a little lower. and then the next day something worse happens and you're even lower than before, and it repeats itself until you find it ever so much more difficult to pull yourself out. your good, even just your "meh" days, are just as important to focus on during recovery from depression. they're the days you can make the most progress. find the most things to involve yourself in, get motivated about, make friends, connections, make progress. etc etc
keep fighting and talk to someone. dont wait until you're underwater.
One thing I haven't had a lick of trouble with in Inquisition is targeting so that's a confusing post to me
I mean you just click on the dude you want to kill
If you do the overhead targeting thing, yeah.
If you want to hit THIS GUY rather than THAT GUY then it's kind of a crap shoot in the real time mode, you can't easily jump from one target to another.
Unless you're playing with a mouse and not on the most Excellent Box, the First
When do thoughts about suicide cross the line from being idle thoughts to bad?
I need to make it clear that I have 0 desire to kill myself, and even less intention to.
But the last few weekends (edit: For like 2-3 minutes at a time, sparsely), I've been finding myself sitting here (or laying down), and just thinking through impacts, fallouts, so on.. like who will pay my debts, what will happen at work, how will my family take it...
It's not the same as before I went on my meds, where I was obsessive over it and scared of my own death, or scared that I won't leave a legacy or find love or anything. But it's more... what do I do with myself, and as an extension what impacts will I have? I'm finding myself slipping into these thoughts pretty easily in the last month or so, and I'm going to bring them up with my counselor next session..
But I just wonder.. when should I start worrying? I actually have this desire to hang out with my friends, but I have no desire to decide what to do,or organize shit for them, or anything like that. So I think this is just idle boredom thinking, but I don't like that it is creeping up more.
If anyone has an answer I would like to know it too.
Bad, in the sense you should do something about them, is if they start to negatively impact your life. If they become a source of worry or temptation or interfere with other thing.
I'd guess.
Which is the standard psych answer to basically everything.
Shrug. I've had suicidal thoughts since I was about 9. On and off. It's just sort of a thing that's there.
They moistly come out at night, moistly.
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Apothe0sisHave you ever questioned the nature of your reality?Registered Userregular
Wash I vote Mirror's Edge goes first, it's a short title and one of my top 10 favs.
Presently I have been alternating between that, Shadow of the Colossus, and Dragonfall. Pretty sure I'm on the last chapter of the game. I really, really like it.
Marathoned all of the Harry Potter movies in one sitting.
When I coulda just watched this instead.
That would have been a far better use of your time. Those movies are garbage. GIGO
Oh I wouldn't say they're all garbo, it's just that for some reason I think the sound balance was way goddamn off in the last three or four films. Really soured the experience considering I had to keep it down low enough for the effect sounds not to wake my passed out mates, which resulted in the actual voicework ending up little more than a whisper that was drowned out by everyone's snoring.
Alright and in this next scene all the animals have AIDS.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
My Father is awesome and he worked very hard so he could provide for me and my two sisters. My sisters still complained about him and acted like he was a bad father sometimes. My younger sister still treats him like shit sometimes, even when he has helped her financially well past her transition to adulthood. I have interacted with the fathers of female friends who swore they were the devil, and yet the father seemed perfectly fine. So now when I hear a woman complain about their father, I tend to take it with a rather large grain of salt.
my dad took my baseball cards away when i was 12! i didnt give a fuck about baseball but i wanted to collect them because they were worth some money and we didnt have much money and he did a thorough job convincing my impressionable young mind that their value was going to go through the roof. i was building a fortune!
then he decided that as a girl i shouldn't be collecting baseball cards.
COME THE FUCK ON
In his defense baseball cards are a dumb investment because baseball is dumb
Clearly you should have been collecting marvel trading cards instead
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I mean you just click on the dude you want to kill
Marathoned all of the Harry Potter movies in one sitting.
When I coulda just watched this instead.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
good thing belascobot is nigh invincible
Sugoi, kawaii-desuu~~~
@athenor from a certain perspective it comes down to firm ideation - once you have a solid conceptualized plan and shit, that's when you need to really start taking it seriously as a manifestation of mental issues rather than idle daydreaming
In general suicidal thoughts should be discussed at least indirectly before it gets to that point, or at least understood as a thing that happens
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
i suffered through major depression for a very long time (years) and had suicidal thoughts countless times but never acted on them. i have managed to claw my way out of that deep dark pit through sheer force of will and eventually some medicine that helped a bit too. now i'm the happiest i've ever been in my life and other than the group of people i work with virtually nothing has changed in my life over these years and my depression predated my employment history so i can't chalk it up to my life somehow getting better overnight and snapping out of it. it was a long arduous process and i had to fight for my life. fight myself, my demons etc, to keep getting out of bed, keep hoping tomorrow would be better, and every day little by little it got better.
but here is my personal thought on the matter. as soon as you have a suicidal thought about it you should be concerned. they simply dont come to me anymore unless i'm having a really hard time. those are the times i need to talk to someone. even if it's a passing thought, nothing i would act on, even if i think i'll feel better tomorrow, i should still talk to someone - talking to lud works for me but a counselor is probably better for most people. he is very good at helping me re-frame situations and keep hope.
the first thought is a sign you're dipping under the waterline. you don't want to wait until you're circling the drain to get help. you wouldnt wait to call a life guard to help someone until they stopped coming back up to gasp for air would you?
its great that you still have the desire to hang out with friends and motivation to do things but here's the thing - what if tomorrow you don't? this is something you have to fight every day. even on good days you have to fight it. because on a good day something shitty might happen that puts you in a slightly worse mood and you're a little lower. and then the next day something worse happens and you're even lower than before, and it repeats itself until you find it ever so much more difficult to pull yourself out. your good, even just your "meh" days, are just as important to focus on during recovery from depression. they're the days you can make the most progress. find the most things to involve yourself in, get motivated about, make friends, connections, make progress. etc etc
keep fighting and talk to someone. dont wait until you're underwater.
@Athenor @Julius
If you do the overhead targeting thing, yeah.
If you want to hit THIS GUY rather than THAT GUY then it's kind of a crap shoot in the real time mode, you can't easily jump from one target to another.
Unless you're playing with a mouse and not on the most Excellent Box, the First
Bad, in the sense you should do something about them, is if they start to negatively impact your life. If they become a source of worry or temptation or interfere with other thing.
I'd guess.
Which is the standard psych answer to basically everything.
Shrug. I've had suicidal thoughts since I was about 9. On and off. It's just sort of a thing that's there.
That would have been a far better use of your time. Those movies are garbage. GIGO
I like this alot!
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy 7
Shadow of the Colossus
Mirror's Edge
Mass Effect 3
Uncharted 3
Borderlands 2
Far Cry 3
Dragonfall
A lot of 3's in there. All of them are games I feel like I should've beaten or played by now. Childhood me would be disappoint.
God bless.
naoto is the aigis of persona 4
got 9 Colossus down and the rest will be knocked out this week, but maaaaaaaaan I don't know how this is supposed to end
but I bet it ain't gonna end well for our silent hero
YOU ARE A MONSTER
But as long as we agree its not Rise or Yukiko
EDIT:
Rise, REALLY?! you are a sucker.
You are going to get NTR'd to hell and back
it doesn't really seem to do much and is a pain to stick on
Presently I have been alternating between that, Shadow of the Colossus, and Dragonfall. Pretty sure I'm on the last chapter of the game. I really, really like it.
Oh I wouldn't say they're all garbo, it's just that for some reason I think the sound balance was way goddamn off in the last three or four films. Really soured the experience considering I had to keep it down low enough for the effect sounds not to wake my passed out mates, which resulted in the actual voicework ending up little more than a whisper that was drowned out by everyone's snoring.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
Nonsense-7-Girl-Forever
ddaaaayyyyyyuuuuummmmm
1) Chie is bess, but Naoto is supa awesome
2) OMG i remembered the last scene of the Aigis S-Link thing, so creepy.
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The worst thing about undergrad lab reports is trying to find fucking references for these kindergarten-level experiments.
"HURR I want everyone to find at least 5 relevant journal articles published in the last 5 years to use as sources."
Well I'm terribly sorry professor but it turns out that there are no scientists doing published research on things that science knew 30 years ago.
I also thought Koudelka was related to Persona somehow, but that seems like nonse.
Because I have no friends in real life.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
Koudelka is the precursor to the Shadow Hearts franchise.
it is playable on ps2, ps3 and vita
koudelka is related to the shadow hearts series
Ideally you play Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden on a Vita or Playstation TV.
But the base versions are still great too.
In his defense baseball cards are a dumb investment because baseball is dumb
Clearly you should have been collecting marvel trading cards instead
ooooooh yeah. That makes sense.
Sorry J, say that again? I missed your meaning.