Oh wow, thanks for the pointing me at that. Now to decide if I want to put my money where my mouth is.
I'm strongly considering it since I want to try my hand at "soloing" my way through the infiltration portion of silent and sneaky, but I don't want to deal with strangers while I still unfamiliar with the patrol routes.
So I'm hearing that GTA is the next free game on the epic game store. That's probably the worst news that I've heard in a long time. I hope this blows up in R*'s face ten times as badly as their players will be blown up after being invited to I1|||1ll1I|'s apartment.
So I'm hearing that GTA is the next free game on the epic game store. That's probably the worst news that I've heard in a long time. I hope this blows up in R*'s face ten times as badly as their players will be blown up after being invited to I1|||1ll1I|'s apartment.
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Still not installing ccp game store
I'm a little confused by this response. Why is this a bad thing? I would've thought that getting more players into a 5 year old game would be a good thing. And "ccp game store"...I'm not sure I follow this one. Is it how Epic are distributing money made from Fortnite MTx to fund pretty much everything not-Fortnite on the platform?
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I started playing this again and damn its fun. Got the starter pack and sold some of my counterfeit cash, accidentally started investing in a bunker that's in the middle of nowhere. Gonna get a crew together to go a heisting because it's a blast but I'd love to get this bunker making me cash. Probably going to move to whatever one people recommend though,once I get the dough that is.
Influx of new players is good, but influx of people able to make infinite free accounts to cheat and grief is bad. I did figure out how to make solo public lobbies on pc, at least temporarily. Helps with solo selling stock from my businesses.
I hear being a ceo and doing something with crates is lucrative and potentially solo friendly? Anyone have tips for that?
And the ccp thing is I assume because epic has investment from ten cent, though I believe people have checked and EGS doesn't send anything their way from your machine. They've got issues but Chinese spying is unlikely to be one.
I started playing this again and damn its fun. Got the starter pack and sold some of my counterfeit cash, accidentally started investing in a bunker that's in the middle of nowhere. Gonna get a crew together to go a heisting because it's a blast but I'd love to get this bunker making me cash. Probably going to move to whatever one people recommend though,once I get the dough that is.
Influx of new players is good, but influx of people able to make infinite free accounts to cheat and grief is bad. I did figure out how to make solo public lobbies on pc, at least temporarily. Helps with solo selling stock from my businesses.
I hear being a ceo and doing something with crates is lucrative and potentially solo friendly? Anyone have tips for that?
And the ccp thing is I assume because epic has investment from ten cent, though I believe people have checked and EGS doesn't send anything their way from your machine. They've got issues but Chinese spying is unlikely to be one.
Except that's not really a thing anymore. Epic implemented a 2FA requirement to claim their free games...which mitigates the number of people making throwaway accounts for the sole purpose of griefing/cheating.
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I don't think 2FA is going to stop the influx of modders blowing people up spontaneously. However on the flip side there will likely be an influx of random money drops as well. I suppose we'll see in a day or two since from what I've heard EPIC's servers have collapsed on themselves from the strain. As for EPIC, they've burnt any hope of ever winning over my trust.
I started playing this again and damn its fun. Got the starter pack and sold some of my counterfeit cash, accidentally started investing in a bunker that's in the middle of nowhere. Gonna get a crew together to go a heisting because it's a blast but I'd love to get this bunker making me cash. Probably going to move to whatever one people recommend though,once I get the dough that is.
If I had to map out a rough chain of progression, I think these days I'd advise newer players to invest in the following:
1: An arcade so that you can host the casino heist. Try to complete all three approaches to unlock the ability to cancel the heist, which lets you abort if you start setting it up and see that the vault contains cash instead of Gold or Art.
2: A buzzard attack chopper since it is all around your best value for your money for a quick air transport/weaponized vehicle. Bonus points since you can call it in via the securoserve CEO/VIP menu
3: A bunker to start having a passive business building up profits over time
4: A nightclub to get a second passive business going
5: Cocaine, meth, counterfeit cash, and either a CEO crate warehouse or a hangar for the sole purpose of increasing nightclub income. Biker businesses IMO aren't worth the effort outside of 2x profit weeks.
Squeeze a CEO office and a car Import/Export warehouse in there for solo grinding if you get tired of the casino heist.
IIRC you can get free access to the Pixel Pete arcade in paleto bay as a twitch prime reward. Pixel Pete's is absolutely TERRIBLE, but it's free. Use it to save up for one of the better arcades. The popular ones are 8-bit and videogedon.
As for popular bunkers, two of the popular ones are Farmhouse and Chumash.
As for the casino heist, there are two collection events that you can run in freemode to help with them. The first is that you can blow up a bunch of signal jammers around the map to unlock Avi as your heist hacker. You want an expert hacker for the heist to increase the amount of time that you have in the vault. Avi gives the most time, while Paige gives only slightly less. IMO Paige is superior since she gives enough time IMO while costing you a 9% cut vs a 10% cut, but you need to own a terrorbyte IIRC to unlock her and that's kind of pricey. You can look up guides to see where all of the jammers are. If you don't own a buzzard, then you probably want to get your hands on one. I think some spawn naturally at a few airfields, and I think you can pay a few thousand dollars to rent one with the securoserv menu.
The other collection is that you can collect a bunch of playing cards from around the map. Doing so unlocks the "high roller" outfit, which can be used as an exit disguise in the Big Con approach. So by doing one lenghty collection trip, you never need to do the "collect exit disguise" prep mission again. You also get a bunch of casino chips that you can exchange for cash. Again you'll want a helicopter to help you get around, but you don't need a weaponized one so you can get away with simply stealing a helicopter from a helipad. Alternatively I think that you can call merryweather to ask them to send a helicopter to you, and you can kill the pilot when he lands to steal his ride.
People who paid for the game play like assholes. I don't see why free people are going to skew the asshole ratio.
Everybody in GTA-world is an asshole. So...that's kinda expected. Even amongst friends, things happen.
EDIT - shoot, I detest public sessions and the bullshittery that happens in there...but even in friend sessions where I'm one of the least murderous (of actual players) in my group of friends, I'll admit to killing folks from time to time. Usually on accident, but sometimes intentionally.
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People who paid for the game play like assholes. I don't see why free people are going to skew the asshole ratio.
The difference is between your normal asshole and a hacker asshole with the power to play god and no fear of a ban since he has a bunch of free burner accounts.
People who paid for the game play like assholes. I don't see why free people are going to skew the asshole ratio.
The difference is between your normal asshole and a hacker asshole with the power to play god and no fear of a ban since he has a bunch of free burner accounts.
Seriously, the 2FA requirement has curbed a fair bit of the "free burner accounts."
But you are right that there are hacker-assholes in GTA Online...and it's something that's just an inherent problem due to Rockstar not really being interested in doing anything about it. Don't want to run the risk of having a hacker in your lobby? Private/Friends-Only/Crew-Only lobbies work pretty well. Wanna avoid hackers and still do open world stuff? Firewall shenanigans still work (albeit, they are incredibly inconvenient if you or your friends want to run actual missions).
EDIT - yeah, it's not ideal...but it's not exactly going to be made worse by the game being given away for free for the next week (since it's already bad as it is).
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Perhaps I'm overreacting, but 2FA won't even slow someone down if they're serious about being a jerk. It's easy to spin up new email addresses to use as your alternative point of authentication.
Perhaps I'm overreacting, but 2FA won't even slow someone down if they're serious about being a jerk. It's easy to spin up new email addresses to use as your alternative point of authentication.
Depends on how the 2FA actually verifies, I guess. I know that since Activision implemented 2FA for Call of Duty: Warzone (the F2P battle royale game that was being plagued by cheaters), the number of cheaters noticeably dropped. Although, the 2FA system that they're using is only SMS messaging, and they're combining that 2FA requirement to spin up a new account with an aggressive anti-cheat policy that's going beyond simple hardware ID (cheaters are going so far as to completely replace every component in their computers, formatting their drives and reinstalling Windows, and running VPNs, and they're still getting banned almost immediately). But, at the very least, the 2FA part started to filter the low-effort cheaters out.
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I don't think 2FA is going to stop the influx of modders blowing people up spontaneously. However on the flip side there will likely be an influx of random money drops as well. I suppose we'll see in a day or two since from what I've heard EPIC's servers have collapsed on themselves from the strain. As for EPIC, they've burnt any hope of ever winning over my trust.
I started playing this again and damn its fun. Got the starter pack and sold some of my counterfeit cash, accidentally started investing in a bunker that's in the middle of nowhere. Gonna get a crew together to go a heisting because it's a blast but I'd love to get this bunker making me cash. Probably going to move to whatever one people recommend though,once I get the dough that is.
If I had to map out a rough chain of progression, I think these days I'd advise newer players to invest in the following:
1: An arcade so that you can host the casino heist. Try to complete all three approaches to unlock the ability to cancel the heist, which lets you abort if you start setting it up and see that the vault contains cash instead of Gold or Art.
2: A buzzard attack chopper since it is all around your best value for your money for a quick air transport/weaponized vehicle. Bonus points since you can call it in via the securoserve CEO/VIP menu
3: A bunker to start having a passive business building up profits over time
4: A nightclub to get a second passive business going
5: Cocaine, meth, counterfeit cash, and either a CEO crate warehouse or a hangar for the sole purpose of increasing nightclub income. Biker businesses IMO aren't worth the effort outside of 2x profit weeks.
Squeeze a CEO office and a car Import/Export warehouse in there for solo grinding if you get tired of the casino heist.
IIRC you can get free access to the Pixel Pete arcade in paleto bay as a twitch prime reward. Pixel Pete's is absolutely TERRIBLE, but it's free. Use it to save up for one of the better arcades. The popular ones are 8-bit and videogedon.
As for popular bunkers, two of the popular ones are Farmhouse and Chumash.
As for the casino heist, there are two collection events that you can run in freemode to help with them. The first is that you can blow up a bunch of signal jammers around the map to unlock Avi as your heist hacker. You want an expert hacker for the heist to increase the amount of time that you have in the vault. Avi gives the most time, while Paige gives only slightly less. IMO Paige is superior since she gives enough time IMO while costing you a 9% cut vs a 10% cut, but you need to own a terrorbyte IIRC to unlock her and that's kind of pricey. You can look up guides to see where all of the jammers are. If you don't own a buzzard, then you probably want to get your hands on one. I think some spawn naturally at a few airfields, and I think you can pay a few thousand dollars to rent one with the securoserv menu.
The other collection is that you can collect a bunch of playing cards from around the map. Doing so unlocks the "high roller" outfit, which can be used as an exit disguise in the Big Con approach. So by doing one lenghty collection trip, you never need to do the "collect exit disguise" prep mission again. You also get a bunch of casino chips that you can exchange for cash. Again you'll want a helicopter to help you get around, but you don't need a weaponized one so you can get away with simply stealing a helicopter from a helipad. Alternatively I think that you can call merryweather to ask them to send a helicopter to you, and you can kill the pilot when he lands to steal his ride.
This week, I'd probably say that the best use of the what, 2 mil? new accounts get between the criminal enterprise pack, social club linkages and the 500k for this month, would be to
1. spend 1.5 or so buying the 2 production upgrades for the free bunker, with the understanding that you're probably going to lose a million and change when you switch to a bunker in a better location. But right now with double sales, that's really only like a days worth of idling since each bar of supplies is 420k in sales. Just tough it out at the free location until it becomes unbearable, and you'll probably have enough to upgrade by then
2. buy the alto st apartment across the street from the free CEO office, and do the first heist to unlock the discount on the armored kuruma (which is #3). After that, call lester to reset your progress in the heists and just do one prep for the 1st heist again. This will allow you to use the "continue heist" activity to warp back to your apartment, which is conveniently located right next to your office.
4. if you have twitch prime, buy the free* arcade (you'll have to pay for it out of pocket, but will get refunded in a couple days), and maybe do a prep or two to see if paleteo bay makes you tear your hair out (there's a helicopter at the police station), at which point you spend another 1M and change to upgrade to an arcade that's actually in the city.
5. Buy an import/export warehouse, which is one of the better solo grinds. The cheapsest one is fine for a long time, since it has nice highway access while driving. You might consider moving it once you get a cargobob, but that's way down the list. Also, take this time when you're low on money to fill it up, since if you have more damage than you have money, the repairs are comped. You want 1 of each of the 10 low and mid range cars, and then all the ones you source will be high ends, which sell for 100k (less a 20k buy in).
I'm not sure a nightclub is really worth the investment until you get 5 buisness to attach to it. the premium edition comes with a free bunker and counterfit cash factory, and a small cargo warehouse is cheap enough (but don't get the cheapest one since it's super annoying to get to). However, the cheapest coke and meth buisnesses are like 1M a pop, so you're looking at what, 4M more to get it up?
So I thought i'd try this out through epic, bought a few of the free starter properties then; it suddenly started popping up saying i'd invited myself to all my properties one by one and selling them until I managed to quit, guessing this is the common hacking i've heard about? fun
So I thought i'd try this out through epic, bought a few of the free starter properties then; it suddenly started popping up saying i'd invited myself to all my properties one by one and selling them until I managed to quit, guessing this is the common hacking i've heard about? fun
Ugh, that sounds like a rough one. I'd contact Rockstar support about that one, they were real prompt with helping me last time I sent in a ticket.
Useful tip, if you open task manager with ctrl alt escape, go to performance, then the performance manager (blue text at the bottom) you can suspend the gtav process, count to ten, then resume and it'll boot you into your own session. It's still open so people can join, but it's a good way to get out of lobbies of griefers or obvious hackers.
So I thought i'd try this out through epic, bought a few of the free starter properties then; it suddenly started popping up saying i'd invited myself to all my properties one by one and selling them until I managed to quit, guessing this is the common hacking i've heard about? fun
The "selling" them bit is news to me. Normally this is how that bit plays out.
You've been invited to [SPOOFED NAME's] apartment
You don't get a choice, you teleport to their apartment
You are booted from their apartment and walk out onto the street
*EXPLOSIONS*
WASTED
There's been a distinct uptick in hackers since the free release. Or at least it's seemed that way to me. I've logged into a lot of sessions where some hacker is changing the server's time from noon to midnight repeatedly at a frequency of maybe 50 Hz. It's was probably a legit seizure risk for those who are vulnerable to flashing lights.
Upon closer inspection, it wasn't day and night. It was clear skies and heavy rain. It was hard to see the raindrops since the rain didn't have time to start falling. Same effect really. The ambient light changes where immediate and headache inducing. I've been seeing this stuff all day since the epic game store players started completing their downloads.
Do not open if you are susceptible to flashing lights.
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On PC, GTA V is a cluster f---. You're better off getting into private modded servers than playing out in the wild west that is the GTA V online servers.
If you can sell properties, that is a completely brand new feature. Properties are only able to be traded in for other properties.
And yeah, if you really want to get the most bang for your buck, you really need to have all of the side businesses purchased in order to truly reap the benefits of each one. Shame that the nightclub itself is kind of pointless. One time I invited some randos to come drink and dance at the club, but it got boring within the first fifteen minutes. It's really just there so you could accrue all the loot from your other properties.
I've tried to get into GTA Online but it's just not a fun experience on PC. The incessantly long load times, connection issues, hackers, population segregation in terms of game modes, it's really not good. I bet the RP servers are probably way more fun, or the console versions even better.
I've found that a lot of the load times are actually the P2P networking choking up. If you get stuck in the clouds, open up the windows resource monitor and suspend the GTA process for ~10 seconds before resuming the process. That should almost immediately have you load into a solo public session. If you wanted to be in a public session, then you'll need to find a new session at that time.
I do most of my sales in public sessions for that sweet sweet high demand bonus. Ghost Organization is your friend.
I typically use the firewall rule trick to get into my private public session. WangTech Enterprises needs to move product and get weapon research supplies!
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Ok I finally picked this up because I guess "free" was too good of a price to pass up.
I am totally fucking lost. I have no idea what I'm doing online and the in-game guidance is utter shit. Help?
Ok I finally picked this up because I guess "free" was too good of a price to pass up.
I am totally fucking lost. I have no idea what I'm doing online and the in-game guidance is utter shit. Help?
There are a couple things you can do when starting out:
1) Find a benefactor who'll run you through The Fleeca Job heist (it'll give you a decent chunk of change, XP, and access to one of the best early-ish game armored cars in the game)
2) Run one-off missions for various contacts (also can be handy to have a benefactor to run you through more varied kinds of missions) which will give you some cash and XP
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Ok I finally picked this up because I guess "free" was too good of a price to pass up.
I am totally fucking lost. I have no idea what I'm doing online and the in-game guidance is utter shit. Help?
There are a couple things you can do when starting out:
1) Find a benefactor who'll run you through The Fleeca Job heist (it'll give you a decent chunk of change, XP, and access to one of the best early-ish game armored cars in the game)
2) Run one-off missions for various contacts (also can be handy to have a benefactor to run you through more varied kinds of missions) which will give you some cash and XP
how do you find a benefactor? Is it in the phone somewhere?
I'd suggest, especially when starting out, to play in a Closed Friend (or even Solo) session. Until you level up a bit, you're going to have little/no body armor, stamina will be minimal, and have a limited selection of weapons.
Also, something that the game does a horrible job explaining: If you're intending to play online, DON'T click on "Online" from the main menu when you first fire up the game. Always go into "Story Mode" first, open the menu from in story mode, go to the Online tab, and cllick "Play GTA Online." That'll give you control of the kind of session you're playing in and it'll load quicker.
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Ok I finally picked this up because I guess "free" was too good of a price to pass up.
I am totally fucking lost. I have no idea what I'm doing online and the in-game guidance is utter shit. Help?
That depends what you want to do. If you mean "what do I do to grind money", then I still think that grinding the casino heist is probably the best thing that you can do. Watch a youtube video or two about the heist, "casino gold glitch 2.0", "casino heist sewer escape", and "casino heist helicopter escape." That will get you caught up with how the casino heist works and what a lot of players expect you to do during the heist. Ask the host if they plan on escaping via the helicopter or the sewers. Helicopter is way better, but if they're out of the loop just tell them to follow you to the sewers.
If you go into your phone and select "Play Quick Job">"Diamond Casino Heist", then you'll be placed in matchmaking to help someone complete their heist finale. Also pay attention to your notifications to see if you get randomly invited to the finale, in which case you can join by using your phone's "job list" menu. When it comes to payout as a client, the casino heist is an absolute payday even if the host only gives you the default absolute minimum of 15%. The heist is a short ~15 minute mission that will payout out several hundred thousand dollars event at 15%. An important detail to remember is that the host isn't stiffing you if he's only offering 15% when you're just showing up for the finale. The host had to spend time completing a bunch of setup missions, 15% still dwarfs any kind of payout that you could have otherwise earned in 15 minutes, and you're not really entitled to any more if you didn't lift a finger to assist with the preparations. Some still pay 20% or more, and you should thank them for being generous since again 15% is still a very high percentage of the cut to receive considering that you're only showing up for the payday at the end without lifting a finger to help with the setup.
IIRC there is an hour long cooldown before you can join a new casino heist via quick-job after completing the heist via quick-job.
Ok I finally picked this up because I guess "free" was too good of a price to pass up.
I am totally fucking lost. I have no idea what I'm doing online and the in-game guidance is utter shit. Help?
There are a couple things you can do when starting out:
1) Find a benefactor who'll run you through The Fleeca Job heist (it'll give you a decent chunk of change, XP, and access to one of the best early-ish game armored cars in the game)
2) Run one-off missions for various contacts (also can be handy to have a benefactor to run you through more varied kinds of missions) which will give you some cash and XP
This is IMO only good advice if they have a friend to help them run Fleeca. It's a tremendously huge pain in the ass trying to get people to help you with setup missions. To the point where I'd personally recommend a solo player to simply buy the duke of death as their starter armored car. Once they get their gravy train going, the duke and armored karuma will be shelved in favor of the nightclub's Speedo Custom and its roof mounted fifty cal. If you have a friend to help you, then definitely do the fleeca job since the armored karuma is IMO better than the duke of death and it's an easy and quick heist to run. The hard part about fleeca is finding a warm body to run it with you.
So I guess if I were to make a list again for just starting out:
whenever possible, join the casino heist finale as a client
buy some decent kit to help you fight in freemode. Namely the special carbine, some kind of armored car (fleeca job for armored karuma, or the duke of death), and maybe the machine pistol or micro smg for drive-bys (micro smg spits out more bullets, machine pistol is more accurate). AP pistol is better than both by miles, but I think that you need to rank up to buy that
Prior to owning an arcade, run VIP jobs like sightseer and haulage. Acquire a helicopter to help with sightseer.
buy an arcade so that you can host the casino heist. Videogeddon and 8-bit are arguably the "good ones." Pixel Pete's is free with twitch prime, but it sucks (but it's free). Always use one of the best hackers when hosting the casino heist. The third best one is unlocked by owning a nightclub. Paige and Avi are #1 and #2, but who occupies which position is debatable. Paige is unlocked by owning a terrorbyte (which requires a nightclub as a prerequisite), and Avi is unlocked by running around the map and blowing up a bunch of signal jammers.
buy a buzzard attack chopper
In the interim period, you can "rent" a helicopter for $1000 by calling merryweather on your phone and asking for a helicopter pickup. They'll send a maverick helicopter to come pick you up. The pilot CAN ferry you to a waypoint on your map, but you should just kill him and steal the helicopter. I reccomend doing this to get around until you can afford your own buzzard attack chopper.
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Also, from the securoserv interaction menu, you can call in a buzzard for 25k. You can call it in for free once you own it. Kinda pricey, but it can be worth renting it for 25k if you absolutely need an attack helicopter to help you out.
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One more thing about nightclubs. NEVER EVER BUY THE MULE CUSTOM. EVER. DO NOT BUY THE MULE CUSTOM. DO NOT BUY IT.
The Pounder custom is way better. If you own all three vehicles, then the mule gets used for medium sales. If you don't have the mule but have the pounder, then the pounder will be used for both large and medium sales. The speedo is the best but it can only be used for small sales.
Ok I finally picked this up because I guess "free" was too good of a price to pass up.
I am totally fucking lost. I have no idea what I'm doing online and the in-game guidance is utter shit. Help?
There are a couple things you can do when starting out:
1) Find a benefactor who'll run you through The Fleeca Job heist (it'll give you a decent chunk of change, XP, and access to one of the best early-ish game armored cars in the game)
2) Run one-off missions for various contacts (also can be handy to have a benefactor to run you through more varied kinds of missions) which will give you some cash and XP
This is IMO only good advice if they have a friend to help them run Fleeca. It's a tremendously huge pain in the ass trying to get people to help you with setup missions. To the point where I'd personally recommend a solo player to simply buy the duke of death as their starter armored car. Once they get their gravy train going, the duke and armored karuma will be shelved in favor of the nightclub's Speedo Custom and its roof mounted fifty cal. If you have a friend to help you, then definitely do the fleeca job since the armored karuma is IMO better than the duke of death and it's an easy and quick heist to run. The hard part about fleeca is finding a warm body to run it with you.
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...which is why I specified finding a benefactor and then later clarified that "benefactor" = "another friendly player."
Maybe I need to be absolutely specific about who I'm talking about. I'm talking about Penny-Arcaders. From my interactions with us, we're generally not complete assbuckets and are pretty helpful.
EDIT - Looking over that list you wrote up, and the only thing I can see that's a bit off about it is that it's not really a "Just Starting" list. At rank 0, you're not going to have access to a LOT of the guns (definitely not a special carbine and AP pistol), and purchasing a Buzzard helicopter is going to cost more than what a Premium Online account is going to have without also running a couple heists (or purchasing a shark card).
EDIT2 - OH! And of utmost importance! DO NOT run the contact mission "High Priority Case" unless you can get a friend in who has weaponized VTOL/helicopters/hovercars/hoverbikes available to them. This one mission damn near made me ragequit after spending 4 damned hours trying to figure out how to finish it back when I was playing on my Xbox.
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A friend may not be online, scheduling conflicts may conflict with joining up with a penny arcader, there may be shy wallflowers out in the peanut gallery who read here for advice but who dare not speak up. Assuming that will be around to help out isn't a given. The casino heist is also so lucrative that the opportunity cost of waiting to arrange to get someone to help you with the fleeca job may be worse than simply just buying the duke of death.
A friend may not be online, scheduling conflicts may conflict with joining up with a penny arcader, there may be shy wallflowers out in the peanut gallery who read here for advice but who dare not speak up. Assuming that will be around to help out isn't a given. The casino heist is also so lucrative that the opportunity cost of waiting to arrange to get someone to help you with the fleeca job may be worse than simply just buying the duke of death.
Ehh...I guess I just have a different experience. If a friend's not online, ask for help and try to arrange a gaming get-together, and Penny Arcaders are all over the place and tend to be open to scheduling something. A "shy wallflower" will likely avoid playing with randos anyways, so running a heist is likely not going to happen. I mean, until I got real-life friends to pick up the game (after the initial rush of PC GTA5 faded), I'd written off doing Doomsday and Casino heists.
Like, honestly and straight up, running with a known community is going to be such a huge boon, it'd be worth posting a message here trying to get something started.
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I know several folks have been playing lately in the WANG crew on PC, so if you're interested and new, hit us up and there may be folks around to do stuff!
One question, I've been having trouble getting my friends to queue with me into stunt races. They seem fun but often only one of us actually gets into the race. Some trick I'm missing out on?
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I know several folks have been playing lately in the WANG crew on PC, so if you're interested and new, hit us up and there may be folks around to do stuff!
One question, I've been having trouble getting my friends to queue with me into stunt races. They seem fun but often only one of us actually gets into the race. Some trick I'm missing out on?
It's been a while, but the only way I can remember to guarantee getting your friends in is to be the host of the stunt race. Usually someone will take over the hosting duties of the stunt race and set the rules like no catchup, no collision, etc. So if you want to play with your friends, host the stunt race and invite them to your session. Then if you want to race with other people you could set it as public.
I picked up the Tula the other day since it's on sale for 80% off if you've linked your Twitch Prime account to the game for Twitch Prime rewards. The Tula is a VTOL capable seaplane. Combined with buying a scuba suit that I can equip as one of my saved outfits, it has made the "Steal the vault explosives from the bottom of the ocean" heist prep mission for the aggressive casino heist 10x less obnoxious.
By default the mission played out for me like this
Take a heli out to the merryweather came
defeat the guards that are near the scuba suit
snipe the helicopter and the boats near the dive site
take a boat to the dive site
dive to the wreck and find some explosives
take the boat back to the shore while chugging snacks to avoid dying to the two buzzards that spawn on top of you
get back in my heli
fly to my arcade to drop off the supplies
fly back to the shore near the dive site
get back in the boat
drive the boat to the dive site
dive down and get the last explosive
get back in the boat
drive to the shore while surviving the buzzards
get back in my heli and return to my arcade
With the scuba suit and the Tula, it plays like this.
Equip scuba suit before starting the mission (style options are locked after starting the mission)
land the tula within sniper range of the heli and boats near the dive site
snipe the heli and boats near the dive site
fly Tula to dive site
dive down to get the explosives
jump in my Tula and fly back to the arcade, leaving the buzzards in the dust with the JATO rockets
return directly to the dive site
dive down and get the second explosives
rocket back to the arcade
The Tula is kind of hideously overpriced at ~5 mil by default, but the twitch prime sale brings it down to ~1 mil. I had previously bought the cheaper and faster seabreeze to do this, but the seabreeze is a kinda squirrely with its landings on land and it has an obnoxious habit of quickly floating away from where I parked it on the water.
It's not a priority purchase for someone starting out by any means, but if you're established it's a useful tool to have in your toolbox.
Talking about silly discounted cars, if you're not going to be doing pvp, is there really much point in getting a nightshark over the other armored cars?
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I'm strongly considering it since I want to try my hand at "soloing" my way through the infiltration portion of silent and sneaky, but I don't want to deal with strangers while I still unfamiliar with the patrol routes.
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Still not installing ccp game store
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I'm a little confused by this response. Why is this a bad thing? I would've thought that getting more players into a 5 year old game would be a good thing. And "ccp game store"...I'm not sure I follow this one. Is it how Epic are distributing money made from Fortnite MTx to fund pretty much everything not-Fortnite on the platform?
Influx of new players is good, but influx of people able to make infinite free accounts to cheat and grief is bad. I did figure out how to make solo public lobbies on pc, at least temporarily. Helps with solo selling stock from my businesses.
I hear being a ceo and doing something with crates is lucrative and potentially solo friendly? Anyone have tips for that?
And the ccp thing is I assume because epic has investment from ten cent, though I believe people have checked and EGS doesn't send anything their way from your machine. They've got issues but Chinese spying is unlikely to be one.
Except that's not really a thing anymore. Epic implemented a 2FA requirement to claim their free games...which mitigates the number of people making throwaway accounts for the sole purpose of griefing/cheating.
If I had to map out a rough chain of progression, I think these days I'd advise newer players to invest in the following:
1: An arcade so that you can host the casino heist. Try to complete all three approaches to unlock the ability to cancel the heist, which lets you abort if you start setting it up and see that the vault contains cash instead of Gold or Art.
2: A buzzard attack chopper since it is all around your best value for your money for a quick air transport/weaponized vehicle. Bonus points since you can call it in via the securoserve CEO/VIP menu
3: A bunker to start having a passive business building up profits over time
4: A nightclub to get a second passive business going
5: Cocaine, meth, counterfeit cash, and either a CEO crate warehouse or a hangar for the sole purpose of increasing nightclub income. Biker businesses IMO aren't worth the effort outside of 2x profit weeks.
Squeeze a CEO office and a car Import/Export warehouse in there for solo grinding if you get tired of the casino heist.
IIRC you can get free access to the Pixel Pete arcade in paleto bay as a twitch prime reward. Pixel Pete's is absolutely TERRIBLE, but it's free. Use it to save up for one of the better arcades. The popular ones are 8-bit and videogedon.
As for popular bunkers, two of the popular ones are Farmhouse and Chumash.
As for the casino heist, there are two collection events that you can run in freemode to help with them. The first is that you can blow up a bunch of signal jammers around the map to unlock Avi as your heist hacker. You want an expert hacker for the heist to increase the amount of time that you have in the vault. Avi gives the most time, while Paige gives only slightly less. IMO Paige is superior since she gives enough time IMO while costing you a 9% cut vs a 10% cut, but you need to own a terrorbyte IIRC to unlock her and that's kind of pricey. You can look up guides to see where all of the jammers are. If you don't own a buzzard, then you probably want to get your hands on one. I think some spawn naturally at a few airfields, and I think you can pay a few thousand dollars to rent one with the securoserv menu.
The other collection is that you can collect a bunch of playing cards from around the map. Doing so unlocks the "high roller" outfit, which can be used as an exit disguise in the Big Con approach. So by doing one lenghty collection trip, you never need to do the "collect exit disguise" prep mission again. You also get a bunch of casino chips that you can exchange for cash. Again you'll want a helicopter to help you get around, but you don't need a weaponized one so you can get away with simply stealing a helicopter from a helipad. Alternatively I think that you can call merryweather to ask them to send a helicopter to you, and you can kill the pilot when he lands to steal his ride.
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Everybody in GTA-world is an asshole. So...that's kinda expected. Even amongst friends, things happen.
EDIT - shoot, I detest public sessions and the bullshittery that happens in there...but even in friend sessions where I'm one of the least murderous (of actual players) in my group of friends, I'll admit to killing folks from time to time. Usually on accident, but sometimes intentionally.
The difference is between your normal asshole and a hacker asshole with the power to play god and no fear of a ban since he has a bunch of free burner accounts.
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Seriously, the 2FA requirement has curbed a fair bit of the "free burner accounts."
But you are right that there are hacker-assholes in GTA Online...and it's something that's just an inherent problem due to Rockstar not really being interested in doing anything about it. Don't want to run the risk of having a hacker in your lobby? Private/Friends-Only/Crew-Only lobbies work pretty well. Wanna avoid hackers and still do open world stuff? Firewall shenanigans still work (albeit, they are incredibly inconvenient if you or your friends want to run actual missions).
EDIT - yeah, it's not ideal...but it's not exactly going to be made worse by the game being given away for free for the next week (since it's already bad as it is).
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Depends on how the 2FA actually verifies, I guess. I know that since Activision implemented 2FA for Call of Duty: Warzone (the F2P battle royale game that was being plagued by cheaters), the number of cheaters noticeably dropped. Although, the 2FA system that they're using is only SMS messaging, and they're combining that 2FA requirement to spin up a new account with an aggressive anti-cheat policy that's going beyond simple hardware ID (cheaters are going so far as to completely replace every component in their computers, formatting their drives and reinstalling Windows, and running VPNs, and they're still getting banned almost immediately). But, at the very least, the 2FA part started to filter the low-effort cheaters out.
Luckily I have discovered how to move to my own public lobby and it works a treat.
This week, I'd probably say that the best use of the what, 2 mil? new accounts get between the criminal enterprise pack, social club linkages and the 500k for this month, would be to
1. spend 1.5 or so buying the 2 production upgrades for the free bunker, with the understanding that you're probably going to lose a million and change when you switch to a bunker in a better location. But right now with double sales, that's really only like a days worth of idling since each bar of supplies is 420k in sales. Just tough it out at the free location until it becomes unbearable, and you'll probably have enough to upgrade by then
2. buy the alto st apartment across the street from the free CEO office, and do the first heist to unlock the discount on the armored kuruma (which is #3). After that, call lester to reset your progress in the heists and just do one prep for the 1st heist again. This will allow you to use the "continue heist" activity to warp back to your apartment, which is conveniently located right next to your office.
4. if you have twitch prime, buy the free* arcade (you'll have to pay for it out of pocket, but will get refunded in a couple days), and maybe do a prep or two to see if paleteo bay makes you tear your hair out (there's a helicopter at the police station), at which point you spend another 1M and change to upgrade to an arcade that's actually in the city.
5. Buy an import/export warehouse, which is one of the better solo grinds. The cheapsest one is fine for a long time, since it has nice highway access while driving. You might consider moving it once you get a cargobob, but that's way down the list. Also, take this time when you're low on money to fill it up, since if you have more damage than you have money, the repairs are comped. You want 1 of each of the 10 low and mid range cars, and then all the ones you source will be high ends, which sell for 100k (less a 20k buy in).
I'm not sure a nightclub is really worth the investment until you get 5 buisness to attach to it. the premium edition comes with a free bunker and counterfit cash factory, and a small cargo warehouse is cheap enough (but don't get the cheapest one since it's super annoying to get to). However, the cheapest coke and meth buisnesses are like 1M a pop, so you're looking at what, 4M more to get it up?
Ugh, that sounds like a rough one. I'd contact Rockstar support about that one, they were real prompt with helping me last time I sent in a ticket.
Useful tip, if you open task manager with ctrl alt escape, go to performance, then the performance manager (blue text at the bottom) you can suspend the gtav process, count to ten, then resume and it'll boot you into your own session. It's still open so people can join, but it's a good way to get out of lobbies of griefers or obvious hackers.
The "selling" them bit is news to me. Normally this is how that bit plays out.
There's been a distinct uptick in hackers since the free release. Or at least it's seemed that way to me. I've logged into a lot of sessions where some hacker is changing the server's time from noon to midnight repeatedly at a frequency of maybe 50 Hz. It's was probably a legit seizure risk for those who are vulnerable to flashing lights.
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EDIT - and...isn't the in-game time a client-side thing? I know weather is...but not sure about time
Do not open if you are susceptible to flashing lights.
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They ended up restoring themselves after I logged out and back in again thankfully, was quite annoying though
If you can sell properties, that is a completely brand new feature. Properties are only able to be traded in for other properties.
And yeah, if you really want to get the most bang for your buck, you really need to have all of the side businesses purchased in order to truly reap the benefits of each one. Shame that the nightclub itself is kind of pointless. One time I invited some randos to come drink and dance at the club, but it got boring within the first fifteen minutes. It's really just there so you could accrue all the loot from your other properties.
I've tried to get into GTA Online but it's just not a fun experience on PC. The incessantly long load times, connection issues, hackers, population segregation in terms of game modes, it's really not good. I bet the RP servers are probably way more fun, or the console versions even better.
I do most of my sales in public sessions for that sweet sweet high demand bonus. Ghost Organization is your friend.
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I am totally fucking lost. I have no idea what I'm doing online and the in-game guidance is utter shit. Help?
There are a couple things you can do when starting out:
1) Find a benefactor who'll run you through The Fleeca Job heist (it'll give you a decent chunk of change, XP, and access to one of the best early-ish game armored cars in the game)
2) Run one-off missions for various contacts (also can be handy to have a benefactor to run you through more varied kinds of missions) which will give you some cash and XP
how do you find a benefactor? Is it in the phone somewhere?
So...when we're in your friends list, kinda, yeah...we'll be on your phone when we're in-game.
Oh
I haven't seen any of those yet
Plenty of unfriendly players deliberately blowing everyone else on the map up with cheat software though
Also, something that the game does a horrible job explaining: If you're intending to play online, DON'T click on "Online" from the main menu when you first fire up the game. Always go into "Story Mode" first, open the menu from in story mode, go to the Online tab, and cllick "Play GTA Online." That'll give you control of the kind of session you're playing in and it'll load quicker.
That depends what you want to do. If you mean "what do I do to grind money", then I still think that grinding the casino heist is probably the best thing that you can do. Watch a youtube video or two about the heist, "casino gold glitch 2.0", "casino heist sewer escape", and "casino heist helicopter escape." That will get you caught up with how the casino heist works and what a lot of players expect you to do during the heist. Ask the host if they plan on escaping via the helicopter or the sewers. Helicopter is way better, but if they're out of the loop just tell them to follow you to the sewers.
If you go into your phone and select "Play Quick Job">"Diamond Casino Heist", then you'll be placed in matchmaking to help someone complete their heist finale. Also pay attention to your notifications to see if you get randomly invited to the finale, in which case you can join by using your phone's "job list" menu. When it comes to payout as a client, the casino heist is an absolute payday even if the host only gives you the default absolute minimum of 15%. The heist is a short ~15 minute mission that will payout out several hundred thousand dollars event at 15%. An important detail to remember is that the host isn't stiffing you if he's only offering 15% when you're just showing up for the finale. The host had to spend time completing a bunch of setup missions, 15% still dwarfs any kind of payout that you could have otherwise earned in 15 minutes, and you're not really entitled to any more if you didn't lift a finger to assist with the preparations. Some still pay 20% or more, and you should thank them for being generous since again 15% is still a very high percentage of the cut to receive considering that you're only showing up for the payday at the end without lifting a finger to help with the setup.
IIRC there is an hour long cooldown before you can join a new casino heist via quick-job after completing the heist via quick-job.
This is IMO only good advice if they have a friend to help them run Fleeca. It's a tremendously huge pain in the ass trying to get people to help you with setup missions. To the point where I'd personally recommend a solo player to simply buy the duke of death as their starter armored car. Once they get their gravy train going, the duke and armored karuma will be shelved in favor of the nightclub's Speedo Custom and its roof mounted fifty cal. If you have a friend to help you, then definitely do the fleeca job since the armored karuma is IMO better than the duke of death and it's an easy and quick heist to run. The hard part about fleeca is finding a warm body to run it with you.
So I guess if I were to make a list again for just starting out:
In the interim period, you can "rent" a helicopter for $1000 by calling merryweather on your phone and asking for a helicopter pickup. They'll send a maverick helicopter to come pick you up. The pilot CAN ferry you to a waypoint on your map, but you should just kill him and steal the helicopter. I reccomend doing this to get around until you can afford your own buzzard attack chopper.
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Also, from the securoserv interaction menu, you can call in a buzzard for 25k. You can call it in for free once you own it. Kinda pricey, but it can be worth renting it for 25k if you absolutely need an attack helicopter to help you out.
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One more thing about nightclubs. NEVER EVER BUY THE MULE CUSTOM. EVER. DO NOT BUY THE MULE CUSTOM. DO NOT BUY IT.
The Pounder custom is way better. If you own all three vehicles, then the mule gets used for medium sales. If you don't have the mule but have the pounder, then the pounder will be used for both large and medium sales. The speedo is the best but it can only be used for small sales.
NEVER BUY THE MULE CUSTOM.
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...which is why I specified finding a benefactor and then later clarified that "benefactor" = "another friendly player."
Maybe I need to be absolutely specific about who I'm talking about. I'm talking about Penny-Arcaders. From my interactions with us, we're generally not complete assbuckets and are pretty helpful.
EDIT - Looking over that list you wrote up, and the only thing I can see that's a bit off about it is that it's not really a "Just Starting" list. At rank 0, you're not going to have access to a LOT of the guns (definitely not a special carbine and AP pistol), and purchasing a Buzzard helicopter is going to cost more than what a Premium Online account is going to have without also running a couple heists (or purchasing a shark card).
EDIT2 - OH! And of utmost importance! DO NOT run the contact mission "High Priority Case" unless you can get a friend in who has weaponized VTOL/helicopters/hovercars/hoverbikes available to them. This one mission damn near made me ragequit after spending 4 damned hours trying to figure out how to finish it back when I was playing on my Xbox.
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Ehh...I guess I just have a different experience. If a friend's not online, ask for help and try to arrange a gaming get-together, and Penny Arcaders are all over the place and tend to be open to scheduling something. A "shy wallflower" will likely avoid playing with randos anyways, so running a heist is likely not going to happen. I mean, until I got real-life friends to pick up the game (after the initial rush of PC GTA5 faded), I'd written off doing Doomsday and Casino heists.
Like, honestly and straight up, running with a known community is going to be such a huge boon, it'd be worth posting a message here trying to get something started.
One question, I've been having trouble getting my friends to queue with me into stunt races. They seem fun but often only one of us actually gets into the race. Some trick I'm missing out on?
It's been a while, but the only way I can remember to guarantee getting your friends in is to be the host of the stunt race. Usually someone will take over the hosting duties of the stunt race and set the rules like no catchup, no collision, etc. So if you want to play with your friends, host the stunt race and invite them to your session. Then if you want to race with other people you could set it as public.
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Thank you Stromberg for being so good at swatting mk2's.
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By default the mission played out for me like this
With the scuba suit and the Tula, it plays like this.
The Tula is kind of hideously overpriced at ~5 mil by default, but the twitch prime sale brings it down to ~1 mil. I had previously bought the cheaper and faster seabreeze to do this, but the seabreeze is a kinda squirrely with its landings on land and it has an obnoxious habit of quickly floating away from where I parked it on the water.
It's not a priority purchase for someone starting out by any means, but if you're established it's a useful tool to have in your toolbox.
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