Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
God dammit... I wake up to see this on my Facebook from my Mom/Step-dad (they share an account)
"It's really sad about the two news people shot in Virginia by a black man. How much rioting will be happening I would guess not much after all he was probably underprivileged that would justify it in the eyes of Naacp and Al Sharpton."
I'm so fucking pissed at them right now. I told them how incredibly disappointed I was to see them using a horrible tragedy to push a racist agenda. How absolutely disrespectful this is to the innocent people who were killed.
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My step dad wrote that like I figured. My mom responded by saying he says he's not racist...
Got bad news for ya, mom
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I was going to keep arguing but it's pointless with them. I've been down this road before and they are both completely unwilling to see past their own privilege and nothing I can say will ever change get that.
oh good, the picture my local newspaper chose to use accompanying their article on the shooting is from (what I assume is) the shooter's video showing a first person view of the gun pointed at Alison Parker.
oh good, the picture my local newspaper chose to use accompanying their article on the shooting is from (what I assume is) the shooter's video showing a first person view of the gun pointed at Alison Parker.
I saw the video from the shooter's point of view and it made me feel sick. I didn't deliberately seek it out; it got posted to Facebook by some drop kick I went to high school with. It was titled 'hilarious news anchor goof!' And yeah... Unfriended the guy with a quickness but holy hell, what a shitty thing to do
I saw the video from the shooter's point of view and it made me feel sick. I didn't deliberately seek it out; it got posted to Facebook by some drop kick I went to high school with. It was titled 'hilarious news anchor goof!' And yeah... Unfriended the guy with a quickness but holy hell, what a shitty thing to do
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Expect heavy mark up.
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited August 2015
It's my mom's account too. She's just his yes woman but it's still my mom.
God dammit... I wake up to see this on my Facebook from my Mom/Step-dad (they share an account)
"It's really sad about the two news people shot in Virginia by a black man. How much rioting will be happening I would guess not much after all he was probably underprivileged that would justify it in the eyes of Naacp and Al Sharpton."
I'm so fucking pissed at them right now. I told them how incredibly disappointed I was to see them using a horrible tragedy to push a racist agenda. How absolutely disrespectful this is to the innocent people who were killed.
People at my workplace have been talking about the shooting in these terms and it makes me nearly physically ill. I'm really glad tomorrow is my last day here, I am definitely not fitting in with this crowd.
Just want to point out that, even from the limited quotes of a longer manifesto, it sounds like the killer's intention was always to commit suicide, and to use his manifesto and Twitter feed as a way to try and shape his posthumous reputation. He didn't kill to publicize his manifesto, he wrote the manifesto to justify the killing he was already going to do. If he really wanted to fight a race war he would have shot a bunch of white strangers (in a church, maybe, for symmetrical retaliation against Roof). What he wanted was to strike at co-workers whom he resented. By writing his manifesto the killer sought to ennoble his personal rage-murder as a righteous political act, an act of war.
With these sorts of killings the personal motivation is also first, and the ideology comes second as a result of personal unhappiness. This specific girl turned me down for sex -> all girls are bitches -> (kills a girl he knows or girls like the one he knows). Ideological murder like Roof's (or McVeigh's, etc) strikes out against strangers as an act of terrorism consciously imbued with meaning. The poignant takeway from Roof's mass shooting was that he almost didn't go through with it once he was actually in the same room with his intended targets--they went from being symbols to being people. But today's killer knew his victims already and had an existing beef with them, at least from his perspective. Nothing about the act itself was symbolic. But even in the act he was filming himself to show people, and he set up the autobiographical Twitter feed and sent the manifesto the news--ie he didn't just leave it lying on his computer to be discovered later. It's not a suicide note or a political call to arms, it's a press release, and the headline he wants on the story is "Man Fights in Continuing Race War", because "Man Kills Acquaintances Because He's Mad They Got Him Fired" is far more shameful to him. He's not killing to push the ideas, he pushes the ideas so he can market and package and brand the killing and himself even after death.
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There was something I noticed at work yesterday:
Only and I two other co-workers were aware of the situation as it happened. I had gotten a text from a friend in the local news circuit and checked out the story, but kept it to myself, because I needed time to parse and unpack what was happening, what had happened, and what could possibly happen going forward. It took me around 4 hours to come to the conclusion that I had no idea how to begin to have discourse over the shooting, the implications, the fallout.
After lunch, the whole floor pretty much knew, but no one had enough time to read the details or learn the finer points. One of my co-workers rather blithely stated, "The shooter is dead." There were the general murmurs of, "Good," "Justice at work," and all that that accompanies living in a rather conservative state in a rather conservative county in a somewhat conservative building.
But then someone started asking questions about the shooting, and one of my co-workers from earlier that morning, who had time to read up on the how and the what, began fielding questions, like they had been there.
And I wasn't surprised or shocked; it was hot news, it was a discussion point, and she had the keys to the kingdom. I wish I could say I was disappointed, but seeing that was a reminder of how our news cycle operates. The one that breaks the news, the one that has the details - as sketchy and unformed, as malleable as they are that early in the rodeo - gets the eyes.
No real point; just thought it was interesting.
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It's my mom's account too. She's just his yes woman but it's still my mom.
"Mom, if you want to be my friend on facebook, you'll need to get your own account. For the sake of family harmony I don't think it's a good idea for me to be friends with him on there."
Unconfirmed by AP and there are no details, but the MSU Maroon Alert twitter reported an active shooter on campus. Students were ordered to take shelter and stay inside until campus police advises otherwise
EDIT: According to the same twitter, the suspected shooter was apprehended. No word of injuries/fatalities yet. Hopefully there are none.
Seeing far, far too many people saying the guy was crazy or mentally ill and that people must be in order to commit murder. Thing is, no, you don't need to be crazy, mentally unbalanced, or anything like that to kill. All you need are the right circumstances and motivation. Anyone, absolutely ANYONE can commit murder, this is why you constantly hear people saying things like "He was always so nice" and the like.
My dad once carpooled with two other people, a man and a woman, to work. He stopped when the man retired and the woman went out on medical. Very shortly after that, he got a call one morning with the news that the man had shot his wife and barricaded himself inside the home with police outside. His wife ultimately survived and he killed himself before the police could reach him. I read comments on the articles from other locals, including neighbors, and one tone seemed to resonate amongst many of them: "He was a good man, why did he do this?" Despite the fact he'd shot his wife, despite the fact his stepson had to call the police in secret out of fear for his own life, despite the fact he entered into an armed standoff with the police after they risked pulling his dying wife (she survived) from the entryway. Because they could not believe, do not want to believe, that anyone is capable of doing this, in the right circumstances. Insanity is just pushing the blame elsewhere, not to mention making it much harder for mental illness to become a socially-acceptable thing to talk about.
Seeing far, far too many people saying the guy was crazy or mentally ill and that people must be in order to commit murder. Thing is, no, you don't need to be crazy, mentally unbalanced, or anything like that to kill. All you need are the right circumstances and motivation. Anyone, absolutely ANYONE can commit murder, this is why you constantly hear people saying things like "He was always so nice" and the like.
My dad once carpooled with two other people, a man and a woman, to work. He stopped when the man retired and the woman went out on medical. Very shortly after that, he got a call one morning with the news that the man had shot his wife and barricaded himself inside the home with police outside. His wife ultimately survived and he killed himself before the police could reach him. I read comments on the articles from other locals, including neighbors, and one tone seemed to resonate amongst many of them: "He was a good man, why did he do this?" Despite the fact he'd shot his wife, despite the fact his stepson had to call the police in secret out of fear for his own life, despite the fact he entered into an armed standoff with the police after they risked pulling his dying wife (she survived) from the entryway. Because they could not believe, do not want to believe, that anyone is capable of doing this, in the right circumstances. Insanity is just pushing the blame elsewhere, not to mention making it much harder for mental illness to become a socially-acceptable thing to talk about.
Yup, I'm repeating myself from D&D but it's a way people like to draw a line to say "oh well I could never do that, I'm not crazy", because they don't want to acknowledge that we live in a world where anybody is actually capable of this, regardless of mental health.
Also apparently after he was fired the guy moved into apartments basically up the street from the station and new employees were told to avoid those apartments and watch themselves when walking around near there.
If you were a major media outlet and you decided to listen to the feedback around trying to link mass shootings with mental illness, how would go about that? Would you:
A. Stop doing that, but never address the mistakes you've already made and hope everyone just forgets about it.
B. Stop doing that, and address your previous mistakes openly while working to correct that harm done.
C. Stop doing that but instead start trying to link mass shootings with being gay.
If you were a major media outlet and you decided to listen to the feedback around trying to link mass shootings with mental illness, how would go about that? Would you:
A. Stop doing that, but never address the mistakes you've already made and hope everyone just forgets about it.
B. Stop doing that, and address your previous mistakes openly while working to correct that harm done.
C. Stop doing that but instead start trying to link mass shootings with being gay.
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"It's really sad about the two news people shot in Virginia by a black man. How much rioting will be happening I would guess not much after all he was probably underprivileged that would justify it in the eyes of Naacp and Al Sharpton."
I'm so fucking pissed at them right now. I told them how incredibly disappointed I was to see them using a horrible tragedy to push a racist agenda. How absolutely disrespectful this is to the innocent people who were killed.
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This is (as an international piece) a page 12 item.
That photo is there just because of....no fucking clue.
He lives in fucking Indiana! He lived in Detroit like 30 years ago and he likes to act like that makes him an authority.
I don't want to continue this with him because I know it leads to me being more and more pissed.
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Expect heavy mark up.
People at my workplace have been talking about the shooting in these terms and it makes me nearly physically ill. I'm really glad tomorrow is my last day here, I am definitely not fitting in with this crowd.
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Only and I two other co-workers were aware of the situation as it happened. I had gotten a text from a friend in the local news circuit and checked out the story, but kept it to myself, because I needed time to parse and unpack what was happening, what had happened, and what could possibly happen going forward. It took me around 4 hours to come to the conclusion that I had no idea how to begin to have discourse over the shooting, the implications, the fallout.
After lunch, the whole floor pretty much knew, but no one had enough time to read the details or learn the finer points. One of my co-workers rather blithely stated, "The shooter is dead." There were the general murmurs of, "Good," "Justice at work," and all that that accompanies living in a rather conservative state in a rather conservative county in a somewhat conservative building.
But then someone started asking questions about the shooting, and one of my co-workers from earlier that morning, who had time to read up on the how and the what, began fielding questions, like they had been there.
And I wasn't surprised or shocked; it was hot news, it was a discussion point, and she had the keys to the kingdom. I wish I could say I was disappointed, but seeing that was a reminder of how our news cycle operates. The one that breaks the news, the one that has the details - as sketchy and unformed, as malleable as they are that early in the rodeo - gets the eyes.
No real point; just thought it was interesting.
"Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor
My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!
"Mom, if you want to be my friend on facebook, you'll need to get your own account. For the sake of family harmony I don't think it's a good idea for me to be friends with him on there."
EDIT: According to the same twitter, the suspected shooter was apprehended. No word of injuries/fatalities yet. Hopefully there are none.
My dad once carpooled with two other people, a man and a woman, to work. He stopped when the man retired and the woman went out on medical. Very shortly after that, he got a call one morning with the news that the man had shot his wife and barricaded himself inside the home with police outside. His wife ultimately survived and he killed himself before the police could reach him. I read comments on the articles from other locals, including neighbors, and one tone seemed to resonate amongst many of them: "He was a good man, why did he do this?" Despite the fact he'd shot his wife, despite the fact his stepson had to call the police in secret out of fear for his own life, despite the fact he entered into an armed standoff with the police after they risked pulling his dying wife (she survived) from the entryway. Because they could not believe, do not want to believe, that anyone is capable of doing this, in the right circumstances. Insanity is just pushing the blame elsewhere, not to mention making it much harder for mental illness to become a socially-acceptable thing to talk about.
Yup, I'm repeating myself from D&D but it's a way people like to draw a line to say "oh well I could never do that, I'm not crazy", because they don't want to acknowledge that we live in a world where anybody is actually capable of this, regardless of mental health.
Man thats messed up.
A. Stop doing that, but never address the mistakes you've already made and hope everyone just forgets about it.
B. Stop doing that, and address your previous mistakes openly while working to correct that harm done.
C. Stop doing that but instead start trying to link mass shootings with being gay.
If you picked C, well it's good to have you on the forums, CNN.
GOD DAMN IT